Bella Figura
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I can still get high off them without turning it to powder %)
But yeah sounds like maybe it was too much? Weird that it took 3 hours to feel it.
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Cocodamol - The drug of the credit crunch? plus other codeine/dihydrocodeine queries
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I can still get high off them without turning it to powder %)
But yeah sounds like maybe it was too much? Weird that it took 3 hours to feel it.
monstanoodle
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Same with any Opiate/Opioid really. I remember the first time I used dope I had a large Codeine habit so it was
f u c k i n - l u s h
with no negative side effects at all, then when I go through withdrawals for 4 days or more I can be throwing up like hell even off the tiniest amount
![:\](https://bluelight.org/xf/BL_Images/Orig_Emoji/wrygrin.gif "wry grin :\")
Shambles
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I never felt rough on codeine, scag or any other opies, Monsta. Was the only one not puking through most of those early sessions. Me and Poppy always got along very well. Bit too well sometimes 
you can still get high swallowing them whole but it's more delayed/drawn out
monstanoodle
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You (almost) lucky mutha sham! But yea, bit too well is sometimes a bit too much innit
Ah well ay...
Ah well ay...
CbRoXiDe
Bluelighter
I gotta say rough and opiates isn't words i'd ever put together either. Infact the first time I puked from opiates was last week when I smoked a stupid amount in a fairly short amount of time. Never felt rough from taking opiates though, only ever feels good man %).
discopupils
Bluelighter
I have seen someone take 60mg morphine with no tolerance and spew and pass out and not feel "right" again for a good 12 hours.
Bella Figura
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First time I tried heroin I puked pretty badly, everytime after that I couldn't take a high dose or smoke a cig without feeling seriously ill.
Think my brain/body has gotten more used to it now, can still feel majorly sick if I've smoked a joint after DHC though
Think my brain/body has gotten more used to it now, can still feel majorly sick if I've smoked a joint after DHC though
discopupils
Bluelighter
+1, an opiate will make me chain smoke more than a stimulant ever will! :D
CbRoXiDe
Bluelighter
This is true, except for the fact that by the end of the night when you've smoked 20+ ciggs in a couple of hours your mouth tastes of fucking aids, and you can't get rid of the taste .
.Where Wolf?
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I've CWE'd paramol many, many times, and on the last few occasions, really couldn't feel much from even 2 boxes. I've pretty much burned down every chemist in a 5-mile radius: I look dodgy (foreign-like, all Jewish and swarthy & intense), but not like a druggie, and I didn't think they were suspicious of my abusing the paramol. In fact, concerned pharmacists of every age and race in four different (small, independent) chemist's eventually took me aside, and said 'look, if you're in this much pain you should see a doctor and get it checked out, taking this much paracetamol isn't good for you, and the doctor can prescribe you pure codeine.' I tended to CWE when depressed/hungover, so I probably did look pretty pained, and several of them had filled prescriptions for me for antibiotics (been on them 5 times in the last 12 months), so they must have been wondering what the hell was wrong with me.
I often gazed longingly at the codeine linctus just behind the counter in one shop: but I noticed it only long after I'd started over-buying paramol there, sometimes with diphenhydramine ('yes, I know I can't take them together, honest, guv'). The pharmacist there, a lovely but very conservative Sunni Muslim guy in his 60s, was the first to suggest, when I bought one box too many, that I go to a doctor and get something prescribed, though he did NOT refuse to sell me that box. He did say that they'd been advised to RESTRICT how MUCH people could buy, if they kept buying it - not to stop selling to them completely, but to ration them - and that he wasn't going to restrict my access YET, but that he was concerned that I was popping pills, rather than getting treatment for the cause of the pain. So I don't think he would have been terribly keen to sell me linctus of any opiated kind. I felt like such a FOOL when I noticed those lovely little 200ml bottles sitting there - I could have bought at least one, when I first moved here.
Eventually, he also became uneasy about my buying diphenhydramine. Had to stop going there for anything non-prescription.
I'm generally shameless about such things as buying porn in newsagents, lube in chemists, women's underwear (for girlfriends), or whatever, but I just don't want to risk refusal of linctus by a chemist.
And like a lot of posters here, though I last used heroin 5 years ago, and that was a first-in-ten-years, I just can't, after some very nice times on a CWE, get enough out of codeine or dhc, even with diphen-promethazine cocktails to potentiate, to justify the hassle of a CWE. I found paramol to be the only OTC painkiller worth abusing, and when two boxes carefully filtered only chill you out slightly, there's just no point continuing.
Now, on the rare occasions that I indulge, I'll go with pods. I'm not crazy enough about morphine alone to bother with J Collis Browne's. It's just 10mgs per bottle, right? I find pure M more powerful than most - did 3 x 10mg doses of oramorph over an hour and a half, while in great pain from an impacted wisdom tooth infection and an allergic reaction to amoxicillin that had my face swollen up to the size of a basketball. It was a far more stimulating hit than pod tea, and in no way just a 'weaker heroin' - it has a particular character, and there's a slight edge to it. 30mgs, which as I understand it is considered a low recreational dose - though another forum advised 5-10mgs without tolerance - was strong for me, and when it first peaked, I did have a second of thinking 'if this gets much stronger, it might not be a good thing.'
I was a little paranoid, having, last time the infection flared up, ordered some hen & chicks pods and, like an idiot, became impatient for the effects to kick in after 90mins or so, and brewed a 25-pod batch. Weekend of kidney pains, constipation, and, surprisingly, insomnia, followed. From what I've read, it was probably a borderline OD.
Sorry for the long post. I smoked something that wasn't tobacco an hour ago, and it seems to have gone to my head. So, in conclusion, yes, 'twere a better thing to be in the US in this respect, and have access to easily controlled doses of hydro and oxy: though from what I've been told, the latter might be a little too stimulating for my tastes. Used to be a speed freak, but these days I like to chill. Sadly, can't get any downers that aren't zopiclone.
I often gazed longingly at the codeine linctus just behind the counter in one shop: but I noticed it only long after I'd started over-buying paramol there, sometimes with diphenhydramine ('yes, I know I can't take them together, honest, guv'). The pharmacist there, a lovely but very conservative Sunni Muslim guy in his 60s, was the first to suggest, when I bought one box too many, that I go to a doctor and get something prescribed, though he did NOT refuse to sell me that box. He did say that they'd been advised to RESTRICT how MUCH people could buy, if they kept buying it - not to stop selling to them completely, but to ration them - and that he wasn't going to restrict my access YET, but that he was concerned that I was popping pills, rather than getting treatment for the cause of the pain. So I don't think he would have been terribly keen to sell me linctus of any opiated kind. I felt like such a FOOL when I noticed those lovely little 200ml bottles sitting there - I could have bought at least one, when I first moved here.
Eventually, he also became uneasy about my buying diphenhydramine. Had to stop going there for anything non-prescription.
I'm generally shameless about such things as buying porn in newsagents, lube in chemists, women's underwear (for girlfriends), or whatever, but I just don't want to risk refusal of linctus by a chemist.
And like a lot of posters here, though I last used heroin 5 years ago, and that was a first-in-ten-years, I just can't, after some very nice times on a CWE, get enough out of codeine or dhc, even with diphen-promethazine cocktails to potentiate, to justify the hassle of a CWE. I found paramol to be the only OTC painkiller worth abusing, and when two boxes carefully filtered only chill you out slightly, there's just no point continuing.
Now, on the rare occasions that I indulge, I'll go with pods. I'm not crazy enough about morphine alone to bother with J Collis Browne's. It's just 10mgs per bottle, right? I find pure M more powerful than most - did 3 x 10mg doses of oramorph over an hour and a half, while in great pain from an impacted wisdom tooth infection and an allergic reaction to amoxicillin that had my face swollen up to the size of a basketball. It was a far more stimulating hit than pod tea, and in no way just a 'weaker heroin' - it has a particular character, and there's a slight edge to it. 30mgs, which as I understand it is considered a low recreational dose - though another forum advised 5-10mgs without tolerance - was strong for me, and when it first peaked, I did have a second of thinking 'if this gets much stronger, it might not be a good thing.'
I was a little paranoid, having, last time the infection flared up, ordered some hen & chicks pods and, like an idiot, became impatient for the effects to kick in after 90mins or so, and brewed a 25-pod batch. Weekend of kidney pains, constipation, and, surprisingly, insomnia, followed. From what I've read, it was probably a borderline OD.
Sorry for the long post. I smoked something that wasn't tobacco an hour ago, and it seems to have gone to my head. So, in conclusion, yes, 'twere a better thing to be in the US in this respect, and have access to easily controlled doses of hydro and oxy: though from what I've been told, the latter might be a little too stimulating for my tastes. Used to be a speed freak, but these days I like to chill. Sadly, can't get any downers that aren't zopiclone.
Where Wolf?
Bluelighter
That really shocks me - takes 300-500mgs of DHC to get me high (in DF118 form, so doses are exact, got hold of thirty, Xmas '08), whereas 30mgs of oramorph hit me with the force of a potent line of brown.
Shambles
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Duly noted. Next time I will smash the fuck outta the bastard and chuck it in some grapefruit juice.
I'm not sure that I agree. Judging by last night, I would say 120mg's isn't enough. I reckon the problem lies with not crushing it up enough, and possibly using a rizla which was a tad on the thick side to bomb it. All that plus the fact that I'm not experienced with opiates could explain it. But what do I know?.
I didn't get any good effects at all the first time I tried this time release shiz. I was beginning to think they were duds, but three hours into it, and that's when I got all the negative effects. Very strange. Maybe it was a lil' anxiety related too. I tend to get anxious when trying new things, and so that may of been a contributing factor. Who knows?.
