I've found that chi dope has had a different kind of wd. You can usually tell when there are benzos present though. I know I can. Its a different high. Idk. I just talked to the guy who gave them to us. He's a friend, actually. Came right over to check on us and talk. He got right on it. I advised him to contact whoever he sold anything outta that batch to for their sake and his. He doesn't mix it up either so he's looking into that too. Hey, if i can save someone from going thru what I did, and my hubby today, it's worth the effort to me.
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Opioids Chicago dope thread
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Kudos to you for looking out for the dope using community! If we don't look out for one another, who will, right? That's the problem too when you get stuff that's mass "packaged" and put on the street in the hands of dealers who have no idea what is in the cut. That part is so far up the chain, they are just selling the product already bagged. And it probably was some sort of fent cut if he turned blue and was foaming. That's a tell tale sign off an opiate overdose due to the lack of oxygen. I'm sorry to hear about your whole ordeal, but am glad your boo is alright. I had a fent cut not to long ago and luckily I didn't fall out but I couldn't move for an hour or so and was in and out of consciousness. I was alone to so I would've been fucked if I had fallen out.
I'm not saying there isn't benzos in it, the stuff you get is most likely completely different from what jane got. But with a big enough fentanyl cut, you are out so quick that you don't have time to analyze if you're getting a euphoric feeling or not. Furthermore, the way jane described the way he fell out, lips and face blue and foaming at the mouth and instantly stop breathing, completely describes an opiate overdose rather than a benzo/opiate mix overdose which is a slower process where the person goes into an unconcious sedated state before they stop breathing. The stuff you get could very well have a benzo cut. But in janes case it most likely wasn't a benzo related issue.
As far as stuff with no heroin at all, that's what they originally called china white back in the 70's. They were selling a fent analog as heroin but it was white like cocaine and therefore called it china white. Now the term is used to describe most powered dope because the cuts used make the does appear white. As far as if there is stuff out there like that now, it's possible. Best way to do a self at home test to see if there are benzos in your for is to go to Walgreens and buy an at home drug test and give yourself a piss test to see what you test positive for. But a lab can definitely tell you exactly what's in a bag of "dope".
In my experience, when it's straight up white with no tan, brown, or gray tint is usually got way too much cut and isn't very good. Also, of you can see pink specs when it's still in powder form is a good indication that it's got too much cut.Last edited by a moderator:jjones0207
Bluelighter
I know the general consensus here on BL is china white is fent. but to be honest the term came long before clandestine production of fent. was prevalent.
China white referred to the highly refined #4 dope coming out of SE & SW Asia. They took the additional steps to fully refine it & give the product superior quality.
It wasn't around like some other types & usually found on east coast only. The fent resembling the china white dope in color, was mistakenly called china white & identified as such since the strengths were usually high for both.
These arguments can go on and on for ever without a definitive answer. Some believe that china white was a high grade #4 at one time that eventually became a name for pure fentanyl being sold as a high grade #4 and others believe there was never such a high grade #4 and that it was always fentanyl being substituted. Imo if there was ever such a high grade #4, why isn't it around anymore? Just laziness on the part of heroin producers or lack of knowledge on how to produce such a powerful synthesis of heroin?
I'd be skeptical of anything being sold as the infamous China white these days. If it was a real high grade heroin, it doesn't exist anymore. And if it's fentanyl being sold under the name China white, you don't want that for a couple reasons. 1- fentanyl is dangerous as it is easy to OD on and 2-fentanyl is a selective opioid, it doesn't fill all the receptors in your body so you don't get the warm fuzzy euphoric feeling like you do from heroin and its short acting. Consider it the crack of opioids. It hits fast and hard and leaves you wanting more sooner. Someone once explained it to me as heroin without a soul. Is more of a cold lean than a warm nod.
CfZrx
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Chicago sounds like a scary place to get high, what with all the evil fent bags and stray bullets. Is it a nerve racking place?
CfZrx
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I wonder which city in the USA are you least likely to get ripped off in hand to hand street dealing? I heard Minneap is crazy doped out nowadays.Factsjustfacts
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If you had a raw connect, you'd change your mind. Clean, easy to work with, potency is consistent, and no surprises.Yes! Raw connects are so soooooo nice to have! We had one for almost a year, thru last summer. Then he got popped. That was that. You have to be weary of the raw boys too. Some are straight as hell with you and others won't give u a break to save their life. Always try before you buy. Its expensive but sooooo worth it.
Update on the hubs.. He is all better today. Yesterday and last night he had off feelings, a headache, and just general lethargy. Overly grateful to me and plain shook. I feel like I had help from somewhere outside of myself. I threw all my sickness and own feelings to the ground and adrenaline took me over. I don't consider my bringing him back a gift to him, but a gift to me. Married almost 9 years and 4 of those years in this mess without some crazy shit like that happening? I feel kind of lucky. Definitely lucky for the outcome of this situation. A lot has been put in perspective. A lot. Thanks to all you guys talking me through my nerves yesterday. I was a mess and it felt nice to talk without being judged. You guys are great.
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Well saying high grade #4 wasn't ever around or that it was always fentanyl is just plain wrong. There is a DEA report explaining the various types of dope in various forms; such as salt or base. The types #3 [freebase] & #4 [salt] being the main ones.
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