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The Network said:
I got bored as fuck around noon today. Super cold outside (well, for here anyway), nothing to do, ended my break 4 days in. I wasn't actually set on going a week or two or anything, I just kinda randomly felt like stopping and seeing how I felt one day and then continued until I decided it wasn't worth it.

However, currently, I have maybe somewhere around a quarter of an ounce in my stash which should last a while, but anyway I'm just going to see what I feel like when I run out. I'm not going to buy any more stuff (the exception maybe being high CBD very low THC stuff) until at least when I run out of my current stash. Kinda just to see what's up and everything. Maybe I won't feel like keeping a huge stash around and I'll turn into a weekend stoner or something instead of near-daily.
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I always found it better to take breaks after a pick-up. It's nice to know you've got it for when you're really gonna want it, and I know I'm personally always going back to smoking eventually. Experience tells me so.
 
^I like having a fat sack of herb that has been untouched, taking a short break before will lower my tolerance so I don't smoke it too fast. Waiting on the herb dude at the moment. I normally don't have to wait more than an hour or two but normally I've cut back a lot before I pick again anyway.

Always save one final bong rip for before the pick. Not sure what strains are in but pretty psyched! Getting at least a q, maybe 10 g's, gonna be stoned for quite some time.

Fucking tired though it's getting late herb dude. I be most demanding weed buyer ever haha. So picky with weed, trying to get deals, hustling money for small amounts of herb I go through way too fast and meeting up like every 2 days, always telling myself I smoke less weed when I have less weed but I don't, I run out faster. Wanting to pick always asap. We've got a drought in these parts. Weed everywhere. Not enough money.

You made me feel better about having 1 bong toke at the moment and not 10 before my grab. Gonna get really lit late into the hours of the morning until I pass out and have a great sleep.
 
Weed is too tempting for me to have around during a t-break, unless I try to hide it from myself I guess. Also tough that most of my friends and family smoke lol. Plus I always buy in bulk, so I'd be waiting for the bottom of a half pound bag if I were planning a break.

I was using dispensaries for too long and before that I always went out to meet, actually don't know what it's like to wait around for the weed guy :P
 
It's the ultimate test, in my opinion. If I can keep myself occupied and away from smoking while also havin' an ounce of gas in my possession, I feel better about it. I honestly can't explain why.
 
Exercising your willpower is a good feeling, it builds self-confidence. Trouble for me is that I have really no problem resisting temptation, but I'll reason myself back into smoking by continually asking myself what the point is because I don't really consider my typical usage out of hand. I think if I had a bigger habit it would be easier to justify cutting down.

Guess I can count it sort of as willpower to be moderate and not really increase my dose over time. I haven't had a t break since august and am still consuming about the same amount. Having to take mini breaks due to work definitely helps. My tolerance was crazy when I was working somewhere I could smoke all day.
 
I've always got somethin' these days. If I had to smoke everything I had to start a T-break I'd need a few months to get rid of all the concentrates and stashed nugs :| I never choose a 't-break' though, they always find me due to employment or financial issues.
 
Moxious said:
Exercising your willpower is a good feeling, it builds self-confidence. Trouble for me is that I have really no problem resisting temptation, but I'll reason myself back into smoking by continually asking myself what the point is because I don't really consider my typical usage out of hand. I think if I had a bigger habit it would be easier to justify cutting down.

Guess I can count it sort of as willpower to be moderate and not really increase my dose over time. I haven't had a t break since august and am still consuming about the same amount. Having to take mini breaks due to work definitely helps. My tolerance was crazy when I was working somewhere I could smoke all day.
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I get that. The trick for me's seemed to have been not looking at my habit as out of hand, just trying to stretch my money as much as I can. I turn that into a little game for myself, too-- trying to make a gram last 3 days, an ounce two months, shit like that. Over Christmas work was so hectic that I realized last week I hadn't picked up another ounce since the day before Thanksgiving, and I used to smoke ~a gram a day for a good 5 years straight.

I'm honestly proud as shit but I'm having trouble with what's next, you know? Like.... why am I even bothering? Rhetorical question, it's just the way my mind fucks with me to get me to smoke/drink more than I'd prefer.
 
So the California law--which was very controversial at the time and had my own stomach in knots (I voted for legalization in the end) is turning out to be a major disaster for all the small growers and all medical patients that are not wealthy. The medical collective which we belong to (all people with serious illnesses from cancer to AIDS to MS) has taken to illegally passing out medicine.

For years this collective has operated legally under prop 215 (the medical only law) out of a small office space where people could come pick up their medicines any day of the week or at a weekly meeting that operated out of a private hall. Because of the federal climate their longtime landlord got spooked when he had to sign up with the state regulators (he was afraid they would pull his property loan because he was getting "drug money").Of course he was getting it before as well but he did not have to sign his name to an official State form saying he knows and approves of a recreational marijuana dispensary. Turns out, this devastating hurdle is moot because they would not have been allowed to operate out of that space under current regulations. The City bent over backwards for this collective, giving it one of the first of 3 city permits to open in January so that distribution would not be affected--but it turns out you have to have a 6K sq. ft. space for a dispensary and who can find that or afford it in one of the most expensive cities in America? The almost 45% tax that will be charged on all sales means that all the poor people that this collective was supporting will have to come up with that amount less 10%--and they simply cannot. Add to that you have to reapply and pay $100.00 each year to get an official card from the county after getting an official prescription from an MD or other doctor. My husband and I are middle class and he pays for his CBD oil but the majority are either one step above homeless or homeless, living on meager disability payments.

Add to that the amount of product that small growers have to turn over to the state regulators and most if not all are having to go underground or stop being their own business and get a job with one of the better funded bigger operations. Supposedly this law was going to protect the small growers but this turns out to not be fact. If anything, this just shows you how difficult it is write a decent law. I am still hopeful that all this can be remedied and addressed but right now it is really pissing me off because a lot of the people being hurt are my friends and I see how serious this is for them. On the other hand SF is looking at going back and expunging the records of past marijuana convictions. So it's not all bad news by any means but we need to advocate for the medical users who are already punished by the lack of support from the feds, the AMA, the FDA and insurance companies making it next to impossible to afford the medicine.
 
The Canadian legal market isn't looking much better. fucking governments

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Jibult said:
WHERE THE FUCK DO YOU GUYS FIND ETIZOLAM, CHRIST

not really sourcing but god damn, every time I found a reputable vendor they were suddenly out of stock, and that was 2(?) years ago. That shit is like a phantom to me, man, everyone talks about it but it's never been seen.
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It used to be available on darkweb markets, have no idea what its like now though. The rate of people talking about it on sites like this definitely has gone down
 
These 15mg gummies arnt doing me no good till I take a T break. I can take 5 of em and barely feel it. I smoke from morning till bedtime tho so I dont think its bunk product or just feeling the smoke high.
 
SharedHalucination said:
These 15mg gummies arnt doing me no good till I take a T break. I can take 5 of em and barely feel it. I smoke from morning till bedtime tho so I dont think its bunk product or just feeling the smoke high.
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Same situation. When I've gotten dosed edibles before I've noticed I need to hit the 60mg-70mg range before I feel like it was money well-spent. Homemade ones tend to blow my head off, though.
 
SharedHalucination said:
These 15mg gummies arnt doing me no good till I take a T break. I can take 5 of em and barely feel it. I smoke from morning till bedtime tho so I dont think its bunk product or just feeling the smoke high.
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I haven't bothered since the summer when I took a t break (only a few days) and ate a supposed 420 mg capsule and felt just a light buzz. Maybe I should make my own like Jib says, I've got some good shatter I can use, just hard to justify using half or a whole gram for one high but maybe I wouldn't need that much if they were my own.
 
I got pretty fucked up on agent orange before bed last night and I feel great this morning. A little slow to get going but I've got a nice afterglow going. Think I'll bask in it for the rest of the day and take today off from weed.
 
herbavore said:
So the California law--which was very controversial at the time and had my own stomach in knots (I voted for legalization in the end) is turning out to be a major disaster for all the small growers and all medical patients that are not wealthy. The medical collective which we belong to (all people with serious illnesses from cancer to AIDS to MS) has taken to illegally passing out medicine.

For years this collective has operated legally under prop 215 (the medical only law) out of a small office space where people could come pick up their medicines any day of the week or at a weekly meeting that operated out of a private hall. Because of the federal climate their longtime landlord got spooked when he had to sign up with the state regulators (he was afraid they would pull his property loan because he was getting "drug money").Of course he was getting it before as well but he did not have to sign his name to an official State form saying he knows and approves of a recreational marijuana dispensary. Turns out, this devastating hurdle is moot because they would not have been allowed to operate out of that space under current regulations. The City bent over backwards for this collective, giving it one of the first of 3 city permits to open in January so that distribution would not be affected--but it turns out you have to have a 6K sq. ft. space for a dispensary and who can find that or afford it in one of the most expensive cities in America? The almost 45% tax that will be charged on all sales means that all the poor people that this collective was supporting will have to come up with that amount less 10%--and they simply cannot. Add to that you have to reapply and pay $100.00 each year to get an official card from the county after getting an official prescription from an MD or other doctor. My husband and I are middle class and he pays for his CBD oil but the majority are either one step above homeless or homeless, living on meager disability payments.

Add to that the amount of product that small growers have to turn over to the state regulators and most if not all are having to go underground or stop being their own business and get a job with one of the better funded bigger operations. Supposedly this law was going to protect the small growers but this turns out to not be fact. If anything, this just shows you how difficult it is write a decent law. I am still hopeful that all this can be remedied and addressed but right now it is really pissing me off because a lot of the people being hurt are my friends and I see how serious this is for them. On the other hand SF is looking at going back and expunging the records of past marijuana convictions. So it's not all bad news by any means but we need to advocate for the medical users who are already punished by the lack of support from the feds, the AMA, the FDA and insurance companies making it next to impossible to afford the medicine.
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While those are all valid point, I think most in the industry view change as negative because it means uncertainty and possibly nonexistence for their business.

Consumers will initially see a hike in price, like we are seeing, but this spike is not going to last as it didn't in WA, OR, or CO. CA is an interesting market for two reasons- 1) higher wages can support a higher price 2) CA supplies a large amount of the weed in the US black market. So factor in a dramatic increase in supply of high grade cannabis at a lower cost due to all the massive greenhouses and large warehouse grows that not only can produce at a lower cost, but can afford to take a smaller percentage of profit and still survive. There will always be expensive brands, but there will also always be someone willing to step in for a lower price. Hopefully we don't see predatory business practices like Wal-Mart, but weed is a little different.. who knows though this is the USA.

One major improvement consumers will see is increased quality resulting from testing standards and growing regulations. Even if there is an increased in price at a dispensary, I think it is worth it compared to what was happening before hand. Prop215 and SB420 really protected the growers more than the consumers, under those regulations it was up to the consumer to seek medicine that was safe. Some dispensaries required testing, but the testing practices in place were questionable and a lot of places didn't even test.

And if people don't want to pay tax, everyone growing in their backyard and garage just got a lot more competition.

That is until the Feds really start raiding all these clubs and growers operating openly under 215/420 regulations. The city of Stockton just shut down a handful of clubs after meeting with the Cookie's club. Everyone is saying Berner is a snitch and he even has denied the rumors saying that he licensed the name and strains, but even if Berner wasn't at the city council meetings or responsible for the snitch the truth is recreational companies are trying to get unlicensed companies shut down.
 
If anyone is worried about legal prices, in Oregon there's so much overproduction (power companies are denying upgraded wiring/conduits/whatever you call them to companies left and right because of the insane amount of indoor farms) that places sell quality grams for $6 or under daily, and you VERY frequently find sales of $1-2 high quality grams. Note I'm not meaning "looks nice" with high quality, I mean: well-grown-and-processed, potent, pleasant high, fairly reputable farms. Honestly the only grams you're paying $12+ for just look nice and sometimes because they're stupid high THC like 30%+. Otherwise cheaper stuff often doesn't look as nice but is still great weed.
 
I remember when recreational was new and the prices were outrageous. I also remember unlicensed companies running their business out of their homes at that time. The recreational businesses didn't need snitching on these types of companies because the state and county police didn't need a tip off. It was obvious who was selling without a license and who wasn't. The grows that got shut down were an EASY find for the police here because they weren't hiding it. Those companies were pretty stupid honestly. I remember checking one of them out and they were gloating about their lifelong dream job came true as if they truly didn't understand the need for a license. Good people, but bad business practices got them shut down within months and today they wouldn't last longer than a week.

Opening a new recreational or medical business here in Colorado is now on a lottery system (temporary caps set up because we already have hundreds of different businesses). It not only takes a tremendous amount of money to start one but now a tremendous amount of time and a bit of luck as well. The market in Colorado has reached close to a perfect equilibrium and truly displays what good can come out of capitalism. Monopolies right now are non existent here in Colorado but I can see how a place like CA could be more difficult to manage with the sheer size which could also be an issue when cannabis becomes federally legal.
 
I can't believe the government has to limit the amount of their types of businesses that are allowed to go up. You'd think they'd self regulate but I suppose they're trying to keep the illegal market from being flooded with excess weed grown at farms.
 
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