CBD Megathread

[psychlo0015]

ok so you wanna stop having a spliff ever hour? quit nicotine. Buy a pack of the strongest largest lozenges you can find at walmart or wherever your cheap store is and cut the lozenges into 4 pieces. suck a piece when you need nicotine. smoke weed when you need weed. its difficult to change a habit but hopefully this helps you like it helped me. be carful not to over eat lozenges and dont forget that you need to quit nicotine in order to save on the budz since you cant really ghost spliff smoke unless you dont care about your lungs.

 

[Hezman94]

What dose should I use to cut down my oxys and for bipolar bpd and fibromyalgia.
And also had some ritalin so be good for comedown later.
Does anyone else feel any effects from CBD

 

[PtahTek]

Does anyone else feel any effects from CBD

I get nothing from it, to my knowledge.
Although others swear by CBD maybe I been using/abusing for so long nothing short of a few blunts to the face would help with uneasiness and/or WDs.
As a matter of fact: IME (personal) weed products tend to make me more uneasy when used as a WD aid... most times I cannot smoke when withdrawing.

 

[Hezman94]

I can't makes me more restless

 

[Jabberwocky]

So after my extensive psychedelic binges and just generally getting older cannabis (with no tolerance) is very uncomfortable and not something I enjoy. Smoking just 0.1g of regular weed gives me anxiety, intense auditory hallucinations and even OEV's. Occasionally its even made me feel like I'm about to faint so I have to lay down.

I can't blame this totally on the cannabis, probably a lot to due with my brain now (my brain looks like Rocky in the corner during the final round after all the drugs). I also can't blame this on my previous schizo episode because I can take high doses of LSD and I'm absolutely fine with no side effects at all.

Anyways I dose ~40mg CBD sublingually 30 minutes before smoking and I still get very uncomfortable.

Anyone have any tips? Should I wait longer? Dose more? Dose a different way?

Once I build tolerance to cannabis the uncomfortable side effects aren't nearly as bad - but that's not the point. I don't smoke weed every day now and when I do I usually have 0 tolerance.

Thanks

 

[G_Chem]

Honestly man there might be but I couldn’t find it. Just as you said, the only thing that made cannabis go back to the way it was, was to get a tolerance/habit again.

Even the tiniest amount would leave me a fucked up dissociated anxious mess. There was no middle ground, the high essential at every level felt like that.

I think what got me through the worst was I got sick where despite the anxiety the anti nausea aspect was needed, after 3 days I was my usual old stoner self again.

Sorry wish I had a better answer, but I couldn’t find that sweet spot no matter how hard I tried, even a single calyx would sometimes be too much.

-GC

 

[Phobos]

So after my extensive psychedelic binges and just generally getting older cannabis (with no tolerance) is very uncomfortable and not something I enjoy. Smoking just 0.1g of regular weed gives me anxiety, intense auditory hallucinations and even OEV's. Occasionally its even made me feel like I'm about to faint so I have to lay down.

I can't blame this totally on the cannabis, probably a lot to due with my brain now (my brain looks like Rocky in the corner during the final round after all the drugs). I also can't blame this on my previous schizo episode because I can take high doses of LSD and I'm absolutely fine with no side effects at all.

Anyways I dose ~40mg CBD sublingually 30 minutes before smoking and I still get very uncomfortable.

Anyone have any tips? Should I wait longer? Dose more? Dose a different way?

Once I build tolerance to cannabis the uncomfortable side effects aren't nearly as bad - but that's not the point. I don't smoke weed every day now and when I do I usually have 0 tolerance.

Thanks

Buy CBD crystals and either smoke it with the weed or vape it in a meth pipe.
You will need far smaller dosages than oral if you smoke it, try 5 to 10 mg as a starter dose.
When vaping or smoking you will feel it working very quickly, less than 5 minutes.

 

[JoEhJoEh]

Hey,



First: which sort of it did you smoke? Because there are mainly 3 kinds of it: Sativa grass, Indica grass and the Hybrids of it (mixed sativa-indica).
Sativa makes you giggly normally, you have thousand thoughts in your head, especcially in a group its sometimes really funny. But: meanwhile there is grass that has 30 - 40 THC, and the THC-level is normally what makes you feel high - AND COULD make people paranoid if they dont know the feeling.

Indica grass is what i smoke because it has a totally different effect on your body: it calms you down (also called "couch lock"). If it is well grown, you feel it in your whole body. I would say it is nothing for during the day, but good for sleeping and normally you are searching too eat something

AND, very important:

there are a lot of cannabinoids in one plant, and CBD is the one that is responsible for calming you down, even if its not a psychotropic substance. So if you had a high level THC-Sativa-Grass without or just with very less CBD, this could have been the problem. I'm doing the same like the guy that posted before:

if i have a perfect INdica-grass, there is nothing to add. But if i just got a strong Sativa, i mix CBD-Poll or CBD-crystals in my joint (its all smokable), then also a Sativa calmes me down and I'm able too sleep.

So like I said (and i could write a novel here), it's a science. I smoke Cannabis since 23 years and i had all that, too. Also a bit of Paranoia once and a while, but I tell myself then: JJ, its just for the next hour, calm down, lay down on your sofa, try to let you fall. Letting you fall and really feel the experience it is a fine drug and it has very less side effects.

I would not recommend Cannabis to people with anxiety- or psychotic-disorders, it can even trigger schizophrenia, if you tend to have it.

Perhaps you read a bit about the sorts and what they are doing to people. I can recommend Leafly for giving you the most important info about every sort there.

Take care of you!


JJ

 

[Jabberwocky]

Buy CBD crystals and either smoke it with the weed or vape it in a meth pipe.
You will need far smaller dosages than oral if you smoke it, try 5 to 10 mg as a starter dose.
When vaping or smoking you will feel it working very quickly, less than 5 minutes.

Had no idea they sold pure CBD! I will try this.

Hey,



First: which sort of it did you smoke? Because there are mainly 3 kinds of it: Sativa grass, Indica grass and the Hybrids of it (mixed sativa-indica).
Sativa makes you giggly normally, you have thousand thoughts in your head, especcially in a group its sometimes really funny. But: meanwhile there is grass that has 30 - 40 THC, and the THC-level is normally what makes you feel high - AND COULD make people paranoid if they dont know the feeling.

I was a huge stoner for 14-15 years. I'm definitely aware of the intricate differences in strains. I've had a guest judge pass at several cannabis cups, had my medical license and went to tons of dispensaries, I used to take huge dabs to the face and 1000mg edibles. However after I got older, into my 30s, and after the whole schizo episode I had it changed for me."

I've definitely been a heavy indica guy. I always felt like sativas were missing something, that indica was a full spectrum high.

But even indica gives me these uncomfortable effects now

 

[JoEhJoEh]

Hey,

Cannabis can turn into a trigger of your schizo/paranoia/whatever-phases. I would not recommend to smoke again in that case. I have a few friends and they try and try and try and everything that is happening are horrible anxious phone calls in the middle of the night to calm them down. I don't know why they still do it... If I know something will make me DEFINITLY anxious/schizo/paranoid for a while (and i know it!), why am I doing that?

JJ

 

[Jabberwocky]

Cannabis can turn into a trigger of your schizo/paranoia/whatever-phases. I would not recommend to smoke again in that case.

I agree, however I have smoked plenty of weed and tripped again dozens of times since the symptoms went away.

I tread lightly, though. I don't dose LSD, DMT, kratom, alcohol, benzos and cocaine (etc...) in the same night like I used to... I used to be very reckless and dangerous with my use.

I wouldn't be smoking/tripping if it brought back any of the symptoms.

Honestly I think what I went through had more to do with chronic sleep deprivation than the drugs.

I believe it was temporary "brain damage" if you want to call it that. If I had true schizophrenia the symptoms probably would not have gone away over time. I have a schizo friend who completely freaks out if you give him a tiny hit (trust me, I've seen it). I'm not like that at all.... weed is just very strong for me now.

Maybe I'm even overthinking this... maybe I'm just used to having a huge tolerance and forgot what weed is like with no tolerance. I did have a similar experience when I was younger and took a month long break due to jail. I took 3 bong rips immediately when I got him and was having VERY similar intense auditory hallucinations and visuals.

Makes me think it's not my mental health... it's just that maybe I forgot how strong weed can be.

With that being said I am very careful, unlike in the past, when taking drugs now.

 

[Deleted member 521610]

i was in the same boat but pushing through and smoking heavier amounts has allowed me to regain control and enjoy cannabis again instead of fucking out and having a bad anxiety trip. Tolerance plays a big part but also mentality a bit try to breathe realize cannabis is indeed a super intense drug but your are in control of your own mind. Try avoid thinking about psychedelics and their effects while on the cannabis to try stop those neural connections lighting up and making you trip even harder.

Weed with no tolerance is very intense. regain that tolerance over a month and it becomes alot of fun again.

 

[AutoTripper]

i was in the same boat but pushing through and smoking heavier amounts has allowed me to regain control and enjoy cannabis again instead of fucking out and having a bad anxiety trip. Tolerance plays a big part but also mentality a bit try to breathe realize cannabis is indeed a super intense drug but your are in control of your own mind. Try avoid thinking about psychedelics and their effects while on the cannabis to try stop those neural connections lighting up and making you trip even harder.

Weed with no tolerance is very intense. regain that tolerance over a month and it becomes alot of fun again.

I fully agree with this, from experience. When you go many days without weed, like 5 or more even, just let alone months, it can be alarming to suddenly feeling overwhelmed, spun out etc. Almost regretful lol!

I always akinned it to an acid trip with no tolerance. It can be uncomfortable and peculiar initially partly because it's making you aware of so many things that you need to instantly let go of and how daft you've been on other certain aspects of living etc lol!

Weed has a reputation for keeping the head fairly foggy but really it is unrecognised and underappreciated as a plant psychedelic which can enable your consciousness to see things so much more purely and clearly if used in moderation and appropriately.


And just like you are saying here I have found that by becoming a regular enough user of cannabis that anxiety etc simply dissipates and it becomes a normal thing which you can tap in and out of any time which is convenient but it can take getting over an initial hurdle.

I think the same principle can apply to tripping on acid etc as well well when there has been a substantial break and especially when the person has suffered in mental distress etc or physical sickness.

 

[AutoTripper]

And I have genuinely found before, remarakably but beautufully- I took just one month off of vaporizing cannabis completely with a relatively low tolerance beforehand but still consumed edibles every day but very weak edibles.

After 30-days I vaporized to regular 0.1 g bowls in my Vapvap vaporizer.

Well the next day was incredible I felt like I had taken a full 250ug acid trip and was floating in the beautiful dreamy afterglow where the world was a purely magnificent and exciting place so a longer abstinence does certainly increase chances of a truly magical experience with cannabis alone.


The very interesting thing I am and serving currently as much as ever is that no matter how much edibles I consume breaking from vaporizing cannabis restores my tolerance as fast as if I was using no cannabis at all and the tiniest bit of cannabis vaporization blows my head off lol no exaggeration.


But they talk about the different pathways and metabolites and effects etc so in effect it's almost like a different drug in certain ways good to have a combination I say.

 

[AutoTripper]

Guys... just quickly to say. I have recently felt shockingly let down by so many people I know who, with respect, are totally unware, only self interested, prestty damn thick too in sudden retritospect, and my mum feels exactly the same way (she's 70 year old fit, strong, super wise ex hippy, on ball totally with reality.)

And so I have realised clearly something about this place so many of you are genuinely good souls who care about others with high level of awareness and education and so much to offer and open-mindedly accepting and interested to learn and help. You all share your honest thoughts.

Appreciations anyway guys n girls.

 

[AutoTripper]

Oh yes, @TripSitterNZ I have only been vaporising weed two to four times a week and just a very small amount is needed each time for really substantial and mind-altering effects so I'm able to keep my dosage and tolerance almost at ground level and each time is a magical and transcendental experience for me especially when I'm on a good trip at the perfect time.

 

[Deleted member 521610]

Yeah i keep a week or two between smoke ups and get sent really far out. Though weed makes very lazy the next day which is why i always end up quitting it.

Though a powerful edible with no tolerance would be something i would explore more maybe. Just trying to find jobs where so many places drug test is annoying. Hopefully it becomes legal in September elections here

 

[Egzoset]

Salutations SnafuInTheVoid,

I can't blame this totally on...

The Consumption Method, try the consumption method plus its Associated Rritual actually!! Although it's a fact of life that every single time when i care to check SQdC's "legal" offer (in Québec...) all i can find just falls into 1 of 2 EXTREME categories, systematically: either it's 100 % "MEDICAL" CBD *OR* full THC (for all practical purposes), never a more balanced THC/CBD ratio belonging to the void clearly identified below:

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[ https:// www.leafly.com/news/science-tech/peak-thc-cbd-levels-for-cannabis-strains ]​

Leafly - Peak THC: The Limits on THC and CBD Levels for Cannabis Strains (2017-Mar-21)​

Unless the provider cooperates you'll have to buy 2 different batches and make your own blends yourself at home, but anyway please think of distributing the blame more evenly, if not in total fairness, which implies there's a lot more people to point fingers at who ain't even on the radar.

Then if your mix is right perhaps it's about time to consider alternative administration means. Quite obviously the cigarette/"joint" is a major "VILIFICATION" vector but too many e-Cigs/vaporizers imply some of their own too. For example the venerable Volcano (which the average Joe likes to glorify, likely based on its price-tag...) recenters its owner's life on paraphernalia for a duration of 2 ~ 3 minutes then the unsuspecting guy shall feel obliged to empty the bag after waiting so patiently that it gets ready, etc. Personally i had an HerbalAire and i rapidly realized i had to waste large bowls simply to appreciate aroma/taste in some satisfying manner, same thing with the Arizer V-Tower which i gave away as gift (except i included ZERO vaporist accessories, e.g. as the PotPourri Warmer machine it was sold as...) because this one rapidly caused me to feel lungs-depressed so much it ruined the day (and even the next few). Etc., etc.

So, instead of blaming the user and/or its substance i strongly recommend to shead some spotlights elsewhere around, where the critters hide...

Anyone have any tips?

Yes, chose a consumption method and associated ritual which subdivides the habit into multiple brief chunks and refocuss it on aroma/taste and/or why not simply clouds art! My customized VG pipe gets cold nearly as fast as it got heated (in Pulse Mode), that means i no longer have to worry about paraphernalia which requires continuous attention, like a "joint" i didn't want to let go extinguish, or an HerbalAire that cooked/wasted it all if i dared allow myself to be distracted, whatever.

Once I build tolerance to cannabis the uncomfortable side effects aren't nearly as bad - but that's not the point.

Oh yes it is!!

In place of a less healthy lifestyle i now much prefer to enjoy morning sunrays at my own pace and never fear external disturbance(s) again. As a matter of fact the dosing is finally so right it's no problem when my immediate attention is required elsewhere - and of course my former need for frequent "T-Breaks" is no more than a bad rememberance of the past, which changes my appreciation of cannabis in a major fashion.

It's still OKay to spend more than a gram in one evening and finish it with a "couch-lock" but i can't blame it on the consumption method nor the substance anymore and that's exactly how it should always have been starting with my initiation as a fresh young college student, long long ago. But that's me, i suppose YMMV! Nevertheless i wish you luck with yours.

Moreover, should tolerance ever resurface as a problem i'd try to consider mithridatism doses, preferably to total abastainance in some way of speaking.

Good day, have fun!! ☮

 

[dopamimetic]

@SnafuInTheVoid Once again, very similar here only that I never tolerated weed really besides very weak outdoor stuff, most prominent symptom is intense anxiety completely overshadowing emotions and usually required to be alone and if possible by any means, be alone and in quiet. I am pretty jealous to people who can 'smoke themselves down' with the most abundant drug these times.

Would you mind to share some more details about the auditrial hallucinations? THC can trigger them too the only other drugs are salvia as well as high dose morphine (kappa receptor), and DXM. Me too think sleep deprivation and chronic stress, together, were catalyzers.

Thought of CBD as being useless for myseff as 'it had no noticeable feeling at all even when using multiple times the max dose (15mg, lol. In trials they were using 80 to many hundred mg and at least in this amounts it'lls agonize 5-ht1). So after reading that quite some CBD products are weak or bunk (b/c unregulated and if, then only checked for leftover THC by gov'mt), decided to give it another try and bought a quality bottle - happened that the shop actually recommended me the cheapest they had and told me there were indeed 'little differencied - as well as some THC dominant weed.

Took the recommended 16mh. Rolled a little joint and tried to smoke just one puff. First nothing but pla/nocebo so I smoked half the joint after some time. Then out of nothing anxiety hit me, restlessness and dysphoria. The morning had been good so it was for sure THC. Put equivalent to 45mg CBD under my tongue and lie down waiting for effects - oh and it works well! Not a complete antagonism as I thought, more like a stronger variant of that weak outdoor weed I tolerate. Quite some mood lift and no more anxiety.. So my next attempt will be high CBD low THC natural weed.

CBD makes a nice sleeping aid but somehow not all the time.
Finihed that "cheap" smart shop 10% bottle and, cause far from shop, bought a new one in supplement store, here the slightly more expensive one but regretted it after tasting it, like olive oil or whatever but little actual cannabis flavor. That one never helped with sleep, just like whay I've had before. Bunk shit everywhere :/

Then just the day after I had to travel over the border of my Favorite Country (at least when it comes to law & order) - Germany. Got controlled three times. Customs, knowing I came from the Netherlands, didn't care. Police did, and confiscated the CBD drops "because they sold them around here too and they have too much CBD". On the flask they state "0% THC" but of course, never argue with people who are the truth.

 

[Jabberwocky]

@Egzoset

Excellent information and advice, thank you!

@dopamimetic

The auditory hallucinations vary, but are VERY loud and alien like - it actually reminds me of the sounds from DMT. I've heard cicada buzzing (their sound can be deafening when they emerge and swarm), general loud buzzing and even the creepy sound effect from the movie The Grudge

The last time I smoked more than 0.1g tiny hit with no CBD and no tolerance, I smoked maybe 0.2g in a single hit. The anxiety and hallucinations became intense, "take a shower to calm down" I thought - so I did. In the shower I was having horrible negative thoughts about myself. Honestly felt like a psychosis with everything. I got out of the shower and just layed down on the bed until it passed an hour or two later. Really unpleasant stuff, just as horrible as a bad trip.

Once I build tolerance over a few days of constant smoking I find cannabis to be awesome again. Very euphoric, fun and makes everything better. For many years cannabis was my DOC. I think I'm going to try to get back into it. Those years it was my DOC were the least destructive and most productive in my life.