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buying codeine in aus?

^ Perhaps you are correct on that, as I am a fan of sedation I have only used 1st Gen antihistamines for the purpose of opioid related nausea. I assumed the effects of non sedating ones would be similar but it seems there is a chance that I am wrong.
 
^ It's a combo I use often, although I usually use doxy over prometh. I wouldn't reccomend the combo to others however as poly drug use increases the risk of overdose.

It is definately a shame you don't get soma/carisoprodol over here, I once had the pleasure of sampling some alongside a healthy codeine CWE and it is up there with the best opioid potentiators I have ever used.
 
^ why? if the CWE is done correctly C/O is one of the best brands on the market.

yes but after reading posts by lagger, he seems very experianced in the drug scene... he just said he got bad pains and it sometimes happens from using C/O

In no way at all am I sayin is a bad brand of choice, but through peoples personal experiances like that, its what puts me off things..
 
yes but after reading posts by lagger, he seems very experianced in the drug scene... he just said he got bad pains and it sometimes happens from using C/O

Right, well, ignoring that first part... many people use C/O for a CWE quite often with no ill effects. Why don't you try it for yourself and discover? Rather then going off what lagger says.

I don't think it's a controlled drug by the TGA even though it's not properly on sale here. Perhaps you could order up to 3 months' supply online, just like some other people do for 5-HTP and the real Melatonin (not the stupid homeopathic formula).

Both carisoprodol and melatonin are in Schedule IV, prescription only.
 
^ I've heard of lots of S4 drugs getting through, from melatonin to sildenafil to benzodiazepines... it must just come down to the Customs officer who looks at the package, their take on it and their discretion.

But apart from that, anything that is in S4 needs a prescription to possess as you know... but then again, you aren't meant to import any therapeutic products without an import license as far as I'm aware, but lots of things still get in.
 
tbh I've never really got much off my CWE. Last week did about 220mg with 1.5 mg xanax with a drink later on, and I wasn't that high.

no opiate tolerance, never really feel the codeine much. Not sure if I'm doing it wrong or what seeing as ppl claim to get high off less than 100mg.

Also which chemists stock the Chemist Own brand?
 
tbh I've never really got much off my CWE. Last week did about 220mg with 1.5 mg xanax with a drink later on, and I wasn't that high.

no opiate tolerance, never really feel the codeine much. Not sure if I'm doing it wrong or what seeing as ppl claim to get high off less than 100mg.

Also which chemists stock the Chemist Own brand?

It's possible you're one of the 10% who can't metabolize codeine properly.

Or you're making a mistake with the extraction.
 
tbh I've never really got much off my CWE. Last week did about 220mg with 1.5 mg xanax with a drink later on, and I wasn't that high.

no opiate tolerance, never really feel the codeine much. Not sure if I'm doing it wrong or what seeing as ppl claim to get high off less than 100mg.

Also which chemists stock the Chemist Own brand?



First few times i tried a CWE it didnt work. I started popping like 8 nurofen plus's which was great but i strongly advise against having that many as its very bad for ur liver and stomach etc. Like the above poster wrote it may be due to lacking the enzymes to convert codeine to morphine or ur extraction didnt quite work out. Could u please elaborate as to what procedure u used regarding the extraction?
 
First few times i tried a CWE it didnt work. I started popping like 8 nurofen plus's which was great but i strongly advise against having that many as its very bad for ur liver and stomach etc. Like the above poster wrote it may be due to lacking the enzymes to convert codeine to morphine or ur extraction didnt quite work out. Could u please elaborate as to what procedure u used regarding the extraction? ?
yeah ok,
-crush tablets
-mix with warm tap water, around 2-4ml per tablet
-place product in freezer till real cold
-filter product through Harris 4-6 cups brown filters

If anything I'm having problems with the filtering aspect. It literally takes me like 30 mins to filter the product. The codeine water filters through so slowly. Its like I can't just let it filter, but I gotta move the filter around n shit.
Also the gunk seems to clog the filters pretty fast, last one I went through like 3-4 filters.

This normal?

Sustanon I take it your doing CWE properly now, what did you change to get it to work?
 
yeah ok,
-crush tablets
-mix with warm tap water, around 2-4ml per tablet
-place product in freezer till real cold
-filter product through Harris 4-6 cups brown filters

If anything I'm having problems with the filtering aspect. It literally takes me like 30 mins to filter the product. The codeine water filters through so slowly. Its like I can't just let it filter, but I gotta move the filter around n shit.
Also the gunk seems to clog the filters pretty fast, last one I went through like 3-4 filters.

This normal?

Sustanon I take it your doing CWE properly now, what did you change to get it to work?

Just a few suggestions.

For starters, using warm water and then cooling it is entirely unnecessary. Paracetamol is insoluble enough that you're perfectly safe just using cool water from the tap. If you're extra paranoid, you can use cool water from the fridge.

Filtration can be tricky, the simple fact is that some brands work far better than others. I can do an extraction on chemists own or brand name panadeine and it will be fully filtered inside of 5 minutes, whereas an extraction on mersyndol will take as long as an hour.

If you want to avoid the wait entirely, pass on the coffee filters and use a tightly woven business shirt instead. You can pour your mix in then squeeze the shirt out, getting the whole process out of the way in 30 seconds or so. It's probably not effective as using a filter, but people do it and they're still alive, so it can't be too bad.

Otherwise you'll just have to experiment with different brands and find out which ones work. It can never hurt to do your CWE ahead of time. If you let it filter while you're at work or asleep or wherever, then it will be ready by the time you get home.
 
I don't think it's a controlled drug by the TGA even though it's not properly on sale here. Perhaps you could order up to 3 months' supply online, just like some other people do for 5-HTP and the real Melatonin (not the stupid homeopathic formula).

Melatonin is not on sale?
Its prescription usually in liquid form.
5-HTP needs a naturopath to allow sale
 
Right, well, ignoring that first part... many people use C/O for a CWE quite often with no ill effects. Why don't you try it for yourself and discover? Rather then going off what lagger says.



Both carisoprodol and melatonin are in Schedule IV, prescription only.

lol sorry I was pretty fucked up when I wrote that..

I didnt mean very experienced in the drug scene, with the kind of knowledge of drugs and how they affect the human body like some older members of BL have (You, Phase Dancer, Drug Mentor, ect. for example), what I ment to say was;

When someone, like Lagger, who has enough knowledge of drugs (And done CWE many times) does a procedure that can be potentially very harmful and cause serious damage to major organs, uses a brand that Ive never used or heard/read first hand accounts, feels 'bad gut pains' afterwards makes me glad I paid an extra few bucks for Panadeine extra which Ive heard nothing but good things about and never personally had bad experiences with.

The only reason Im saying this is because the chemist I go to put C/O codeine 24 packs (10mg) on special a few days ago which are a bit over a third of the price of panadeine extra :\ Soo yea really cheap and really temping to buy haha

I actually was gonna grab them and get em a shot for my next CWE until i read laggers post (Knowing how danergous fuckin up a CWE with a very large amount of paracetamol is), one first hand account is enough for me to spend an extra few bucks. If you recommend C/O and lagger can give more details/ possible reasons for it him to feel 'bad gut pain', looks like I will be stocking upon some tomorro

Ps. Sorry if I rambled or didnt make much sense, havnt slept since thursday night and even then, it was only for a few hours :p
 
^ Actually the Chemists Own Pain Tablets used to be my favourites for CWEs. They dissolve very easily, seem to filter pretty well, and are more cost effective than some other brands. If you're really worried about stuffing up the CWE then you could try ibuprofen/codeine tablets first? The CWE procedure is pretty straight forward though.
 
The only things I can think of that may have caused the stomach pains with lagger is either

1) Nausea from the codeine or other substances he may have consumed. Even with my tolerance I can still get nausea sometimes.

2) He messed up the extraction, which is not good for his health.

3) The taste. From my experience, that brand is not that great for taste, and I will gag on it and sometimes get stomach pain whilst drinking it that fades away.

But I can say that if you do the extraction right on it, and it is hard to get wrong, then you will be fine. :)
 
Taste is fine i Used cranberry juice.
The extraction is someones sloppy sometimes i sopend hours but there is never particles and it is at least towel/tshirt filtered then squeezes into a glass then at least that is filtered once, normally twice or more.

I freeze my codeine so i can suck up the clear stuff on top with a syringe (10ml tip-less) and filter that stuff only once.

I must mention opiates are very weak on me, even sufenta 2cc IV will just knock me out with the needle in my arm and i wake up 30 min later.
oxy i need 160+ to nod
 
Taste is fine i Used cranberry juice.
The extraction is someones sloppy sometimes i sopend hours but there is never particles and it is at least towel/tshirt filtered then squeezes into a glass then at least that is filtered once, normally twice or more.

I freeze my codeine so i can suck up the clear stuff on top with a syringe (10ml tip-less) and filter that stuff only once.

I must mention opiates are very weak on me, even sufenta 2cc IV will just knock me out with the needle in my arm and i wake up 30 min later.
oxy i need 160+ to nod

Mate if you need 160mg of oxy to nod, codeine is a waste of time. There's your problem right there.
 
yeah ok,
-crush tablets
-mix with warm tap water, around 2-4ml per tablet
-place product in freezer till real cold
-filter product through Harris 4-6 cups brown filters

If anything I'm having problems with the filtering aspect. It literally takes me like 30 mins to filter the product. The codeine water filters through so slowly. Its like I can't just let it filter, but I gotta move the filter around n shit.
Also the gunk seems to clog the filters pretty fast, last one I went through like 3-4 filters.

This normal?

Sustanon I take it your doing CWE properly now, what did you change to get it to work?

I have modified the CWE and perfected it my own way to get the most out of it.

Step 1: Place 30 pills (12.8mg Codeine/200mg ibuprofen) into a glass cup. Use more or less pills depending on ur tolerance. Add 125ml warm water to pills. Chill it in the fridge over night.

Step 2: Grab a cereal bowl and a tight woven shirt and wet the shirt with very cold water then rinse it out well and place it over the bowl and make a pouch in the bowl.

Step 3: Mix the pill solution up with a spoon and slowly pour it through the shirt into the bowl. Whilst pouring it keep mixing the solution thats in ur filter around and around. This should take about 1 min to filter. The solution will be a bit white but thats fine and not harmful at all as ibuprofen isnt very soluble in cold water whereas codeine is very water soluble in cold water especially.

Step 4: Wrap the filter (shirt) into a ball and GENTLY squeeze at first and once a few drops are dropping then squeeze all the solution out of it into the bowl. Now u should end up with alot of ibuprofen/fillers in the filter.

Step 5: Place the ibuprofen/fillers into another clean glass and add just enough warm water so that it will dissolve again as it still mite contain sum leftover codeine in there. Optional: If u have time place it in the fridge for 30mins and repeat the filtration process again to make sure u get the last bit of codeine out.

Step 6: Pour the filtered slightly milky solutions together into one clean glass and add same amount of cordial (I use apple and Raspberry fruit juice cordial) and mix it up. It tastes awesome and cant even taste the codeine at all.


For potentiation:

Take 60-180mg DXM right before u drink ur CWE and for experienced users who have developed a tolerance and is familiar with the dangers of mixing downers and opiates can add 1-2mg alprazolam to intensify the experience. Before u go ahead please read up and research.


Try the extraction and the DXM and report back to me as to how u felt this technique has worked for u. I know it works for u if u are in the 90% of people who have the correct enzymes to convert the codeine to morphine. Good luck, be safe and dont forget to report back and let me know how u found it.


Sustanon%)
 
hm from the bit more reading i've done here i see people still get nausea from ingestion after doing CWE?

i usually just munch ibu/codeine tablets but i need at least 20-25 to feel the codeine and usually just feel nausea and sick. bad for my liver i know, but i do it once a month or less

i always put the bad feelings down to not doing an extraction...
i've never had anything other than 20mg oxycodone once (amongst a handful of other shit though) so have nothing to compare it to, but im guessing if i dont get anything in terms of a 'high' or even pain relief off 20-25 tablets, is it worth doing the CWE?

i munched some friday and although i didnt sleep or eat much this weekend, still felt fair sick few hours ago which has been the worst i've felt (last time i had any codeine was before december), so dont really want to go through the same process even after a CWE.

is there any way to reduce nausea and what not if its still felt in a similar fashion after the extraction?
 
hm from the bit more reading i've done here i see people still get nausea from ingestion after doing CWE?

i usually just munch ibu/codeine tablets but i need at least 20-25 to feel the codeine and usually just feel nausea and sick. bad for my liver i know, but i do it once a month or less

i always put the bad feelings down to not doing an extraction...
i've never had anything other than 20mg oxycodone once (amongst a handful of other shit though) so have nothing to compare it to, but im guessing if i dont get anything in terms of a 'high' or even pain relief off 20-25 tablets, is it worth doing the CWE?

i munched some friday and although i didnt sleep or eat much this weekend, still felt fair sick few hours ago which has been the worst i've felt (last time i had any codeine was before december), so dont really want to go through the same process even after a CWE.

is there any way to reduce nausea and what not if its still felt in a similar fashion after the extraction?

Half a tablet of either phenergan or restavit will kill it more or less completely.
 
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