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buying codeine in aus?

drug_mentor: True, you can't just generalize a chain. It will vary depending on who is working there definitely; you may go in one day and be put through the Spanish Inquisition, go in another day and have a different pharmacist who doesn't care as long as you don't buy it every day. The pharmacists I know mostly fall into the latter group; if you are trying to buy it too much, using fake names, etc..., they have a duty of care to intervene. If you follow the rules, all they care is that they've told you how to take it and put the label on.

PhrostByte: I'd switch to doing a CWE if I were you. It's a lot safer.
 
^ there is no easy way to extract the DHC, no. You're stuck putting up with the sorbitol. I think your best bet when taking riko recreationally is to take smaller doses combined with codeine. The sorbitol just trashes your digestive system otherwise.
 
The nausea is pretty easy to deal with, just take an antihistamine 20 minutes before dosing the opiates, and it goes away completely.
 
^^ i think you need to drink alot more than that do get a decent buzz.. ive been takin mouth fulls every few hours for the last three days because i have one fucked up cough atm thanks to last weekend, and im still smashin back bulk durries and cones :p (fuckn stupid)

does anyone know the reason why Sorbitol it is rikodeine? is it purely to deter people from recreational use? lol
 
pisspotnrock said:
^^ i think you need to drink alot more than that do get a decent buzz.. ive been takin mouth fulls every few hours for the last three days because i have one fucked up cough atm thanks to last weekend, and im still smashin back bulk durries and cones :P (fuckn stupid)

does anyone know the reason why Sorbitol it is rikodeine? is it purely to deter people from recreational use? lol
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(I was talking about when you said would drinking 40ml be enough)
 
Amazed-Pi said:
How much of which antihistamine do you use?

The only one I use atm is Phenergan, 25mg or more will make me fall asleep. Hopefully it'd be anti-emetic enough at 10 or 20mg (would have to buy the kiddie 50 x 10 mg pack).
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Yeah 25mg is overkill, I never take more than 5 - 10, and thats enough to kill any nausea. I always use phenergan unless I'm taking codeine, in which case I use restavit instead.
 
Got bad gut pain the other day doing a CWE brew using C/O 10mg extra strengths. only happens sometimes. I took a unisom gel before it
 
Amazed-Pi said:
Why do you use Restavit when taking codeine, does it potentiate better for you?

Restavit makes me very tired and groggy, I'd probably fall asleep before enjoying the high!

The next time I take Codeine or DHC, I'll use 10 or 20mg Phenergan with it (those Phenergan pills are hard to split!).

I'm not aiming for potentiation, but just to remove the nausea. Hopefully there won't be significant potentiation at that Phenergan dosage.
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Phenergan is a slight CYP2D6 inhibitor, meaning less of the codeine will be converted to the active metabolites. It's not a massive difference, but it is noticeable.

Much like phenergan, sedation is all down to dose. I find half a tablet (12.5mg I think?) of restavit does well with the nausea and itching, without killing the high.
 
Regarding extracting dihydrocodeine from Rikodeine: off the top of my head, because I am hungover :\, there doesn't seem to be a simple way to do it. Sorbital as a powder I know is insoluble in diethyl ether and dihydrocodeine base is freely soluble in it, so possibly an extraction could be done along those lines... however diethyl ether is not a safe solvent to have around if you don't know your proper storage and handling procedures.

There may be an old thread in OD with a guide on extracting morphine from syrup which could apply here, which says to use any non-polar solvent but I'm not sure how well it will work in this case.
 
Amazed-Pi I would reccomend against using loperamide with rikodeine, in my experience it is an EXTREMELY nauseating and unpleasant experience. I don;t find a touch of the runs too unbearable but you couldn't pay me to eat gastro stop before drinking 300mLs of rikodeine ever again. To the uneducated out there, 300mLs is an excessive dose but I had a considerable tolerance at the time, opioid naive individuals shouldn't take this much.

Crankinit is correct in syaing phenergan/promethazine is a mild CYP2D6 inhibitor, as a result I find its neccessary to take it a while after drinking my CWE otherwise I get a slightly longer lasting but milder high. Restavit/doxylamine doesn't inhibit CYP2D6 that I am aware, and I have never noticed any reduced effects from taking it before codeine (which is the majority of times I have used codeine recreationally).
 
Obviously the sorbitol was a large contributing factor but it was the fact that I could not relieve myself due to prior consumption of loperamide that lead to such extreme abdominal discomfort. I have consumed similar amounts of Rikodeine without the lope and did not have the same problem.

I would concur that DHC is more stimulating than codeine, if 64mg of codeine got you high be very careful as DHC is supposed to be 1.5-2 times the potency of codeine per mg.
 
^ I have spent far too much time reading about opiates to recall the specific place I read 1.5-2 times the potency. It may well be incorrect, I have personally found that I get a lot less out of DHC than I do codeine and that is when consuming similar mg doses of DHC as I would codeine, sometimes on top of a normal codeine dose.

Given your low tolerance it would certainly be best to err on the side of caution, hopefully your experience with DHC is superior to your one with codeine.
 
^ I certainly belong to the class of opioid users who prefer the sedating ones. :) I can deal with some stomach discomfort or a touch of the shits for a nice buzz, but even totally disregarding side effects due to the syrup I find DHC vastly inferior to my old friend methylmorphine.

I don't think 20mg of phenergan should increase the potency too much, to be honest I would consider a non sedating anti histamine if you would rather a stimulating opioid high. For the record I am fairly certain a small percentage (probably only responsible for little, if any, of the overall buzz though) of dihydrocodeine is converted into hydromorphone via the same enzyme that converts codeine to morphine. Assuming this is true then taking phenergan prior to DHC will slightly reduce the amount that is metabolised into hydromorphone.
 
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