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Boycott Singapore - Van's unfair sentance

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hoptis, as I stated earlier (if you had read every post I wrote, like you claim, you would of seen it)

taking one or two ecstasy pills (or what you believe to be ecstasy) at a local nightclub and strapping half a kilo of heroin to your body and travelling through international Asian airports are two completely different things.
 
keystroke said:
hoptis, as I stated earlier (if you had read every post I wrote, like you claim, you would of seen it)

taking one or two ecstasy pills (or what you believe to be ecstasy) and strapping half a kilo of heroin to your body and travelling through international Asian airports are two completely different things.

Not really. Sure, the quantity might be different, but they're both illegal acts, neither of which deserve the death penalty.
 
keystroke said:
there are jokes about Michael Jackson, Bali 9, Corby, Paedophiles, etc, etc. It's only a matter of time until the Van jokes roll out, so calm down buddy. as I said, if Van wanted to minimise his harm he wouldn't of done it in the first place.

Sadly, you're right to a certain degree. It is, to a certain extent, about proximity.

What you seem to be missing here is that people are assuming you should have the ability to make a moral judgment about the appropriateness of your comments.

Given that Van is due to be killed in 2 days, your lighthearted jokes about the nature of his death indicate to me a lack of psychological and emotional health and normalcy, and an inability to perceive social expectations surrounding the treatment of a tragedy.

Perhaps it's the very inability to perceive this as the distressingly tragic event that it is: the death of another human being, that leads you to this perspective.

I suspect you have simply failed to consider the reality of what we are discussing, which has lead to your obscured and strangely lopsided view.

However, if you truly can't empathise with someone who knows they are to be killed, knows the time, the circumstance, and the method, I can feel nothing more than pity, tinged with faint disgust, for the emotionally unimaginative and shallow life you must lead.

I'm sorry you have to live like that.
 
see, i dont think it is. i find it to be 'dry' humour, but still funny nonetheless.

every cloud has a silver lining - Van's sentence gives me all new material. so it cant be all bad.
 
UnSquare said:
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Unsquare I do understand the concept of a joke, and yes, there is a time and place for sick jokes, however, I thought you would agree (being to my knowledge a fairly compassionate person) that this thread, and this time, do not meet that criteria.

Also, considering Keystroke's attitude in this thread, it's hard to give him the benefit of the doubt that I do with people telling sick jokes normally - it's like people who are actually racist telling racist jokes, it kind of makes them extremely UN-funny and redundant.
 
SINGAPORE'S High Commissioner in Australia Joseph Koh has defended his country's decision to execute convicted drug trafficker Nguyen Tuong Van as correct and responsible.

In an opinion piece published in Fairfax newspapers today, Mr Koh said Singapore had not breached international law, with no existing international agreement to abolish the death penalty.

"Capital punishment remains part of the criminal justice systems of 76 countries, including in the United States, where it is practised in 38 states," he said.

"We respect Australia's sovereign choice not to have capital punishment. We hope Australia will likewise respect Singapore's sovereign choice to impose the death penalty for the most serious crimes, including drug trafficking."

Mr Koh's comments were in direct contradiction to a statement issued by former Australian High Court judge and governor-general Sir William Deane yesterday.






Sir William, who commented on the Nguyen case in a "private capacity", said Friday's planned execution was a breach of the standards of international law.

"What is involved is the intended execution of an Australian citizen pursuant to a mandatory death sentence," Sir William said in the statement.

"That is to say without any true assessment by a court of what punishment is appropriate in all the circumstances of the particular case.

"That being so, the proposed killing of Mr Van Nguyen would be a breach by Singapore of basic current principles and standards of international law."

But Mr Koh said Australians should accept the Singapore Government's responsibility to protect people whose lives would be "blighted and destroyed by the drug syndicates".

In a piece in which he debunks "fictions" that have sprung up around the Nguyen case, Mr Koh said the punishment did fit the crime.

"Mr Nguyen was caught with 396g of pure heroin, enough for 26,000 'hits', with a street value of more than $A1 million," he wrote.

Other "fictions" were that Nguyen could testify against drug lords, that Nguyen was an unsuspecting victim and that the death penalty had not deterred drug trafficking.

He denied that the Singapore Government "connived with drug lords" and that Singapore had treated Australia with contempt.

"Singapore highly values good relations with Australia and with Australian leaders," he said.

"The Singapore cabinet deliberated at length on Mr Nguyen's clemency petition... unfortunately, finally the cabinet decided that it could not justify making an exception for Mr Nguyen.

"It had to treat Mr Nguyen consistently with similar past cases, and apply the law equally to Singaporeans and foreigners."


from google news.
 
keystroke said:
so were the Shiavo jokes, big deal. get over it. it's not as if I'm pulling the rope.

I'd like to see your reaction if you were there for the hanging. I'd like to see your reaction if it was a family member or friend.
 
KemicalBurn said:
Once again, keystroke is likened to to a bigot or racist 8(

Who is making that association? What does race have anything to do with it?
 
it was just on the news update that a major singaporean newspaper is reporting that most ordinary australians support the hanging of Van.

I can't find a news article though yet
 
Of course they extensively surveyed the "ordinary" Australians they're referring to, didn't they? They're not just using that as propaganda to justify their barbaric practises.
 
Singapore is a capitalist dictatorship.

Ofcourse the news agencies reported that, as the majority of the media is owned by the government. If anyone here has actually watched Singapore TV, its heavily censored and sugar sweet.

Wake the fuck up! please!
 
where did I say in my post that the newspaper article was true?

I said "it is reporting"

even you should be able to tell the difference between the two endless :)
 
keystroke said:
it was just on the news update that a major singaporean newspaper is reporting that most ordinary australians support the hanging of Van.

I can't find a news article though yet

Yeah, cool...

Let's just believe everything we hear! Especially anything that comes from the Singaporean newspapers...
 
personally, i don't think there's much wrong with making jokes about this: i mean a joke is a joke, right. the reason we survive as humans - through all the tragic times - is to laugh at ourselves and laugh at others.

what's disturbing is that a lot of people in this thread seem to be treating the supposed sanctity of human life as the joke... that's the really troubling thing.
 
keystroke said:
where did I say in my post that the newspaper article was true?

I said "it is reporting"

even you should be able to tell the difference between the two endless :)


Pfft.. You are a joke.. dont hide behind that shit..
 
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