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Boycott Singapore - Van's unfair sentance

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keystroke said:
bullshit, it is right according to their government. they make their own laws as does ever other country in this world. whether or not you agree with it, doesn't make it any less right or wrong.
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The former ruler of the Central African Republic was a cannibal that used to consume political enemies and other criminals as a form of punishment. Are you saying that you would have respected that?

C'mon. There is a time when the citizens of the world should stand up and denounce something that is inhumane. Its the only way to bring about change. I have said this over and over and over again and ill say it one more time. This trancends laws. The way you are looking at it is extreamly short sighted and ignorant. Im sorry. But its true.

KB. Using the stupid hippie stereotype bullshit is old and boring. Please entertain us with new punchlines as your sense of humour is somewhat repetitive and crass. You seem like an extreamly heartless individual who has absolutly no moral standards. Im sorry if you are otherwise but your posts on this board show me that you are nothing more then a person with a chip on his shoulder with a personal vendetta against the rest of the world.

On another note it is highly likely that this man will die. On the day of his execution i will be starting a thread in which people can post any condolences or short/long messages they have for Van's family. I will print them off and if circumstances permit will personally deliver them to mrs.nguyen along with a small gift (flowers or something of the like) on behalf of all Australian Social.
 
i reckon we should boycott discussions about idiots who are dumb enough to get caught smuggling drugs from countries with capital punishment for these offences. who cares if the punishment fits the crime. people in australia get aquitted of murders they admit they committed, and other people get 2years for failing to show up to commuinty service. tough shit. he knew what was going to happen if he got caught. if he wanted any different, e would have had johnny cochrane on retainer and maybe tried a different way of smuggling. van is dumb, chappelle is dumb, michelle is dumb and anyone else who wants to break the laws of other countries are dumb.
 
van is dumb, chappelle is dumb, michelle is dumb and anyone else who wants to break the laws of other countries are dumb.
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Yeah.. you are right

but how is that the point? 8(
 
Doppelganger said:
What is wrong with you people???

This isn't about being dumb or smart!!!

It's about the fact people don't deserve to die for smuggling drugs.
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if he didn't want to die, he shouldn't of went in the first place. sure the death penalty sucks, but he knew that.
 
the point is:
why give dumb fucks like that the time of day? do you think they'd honestly give 2 flying fucks of fuck fuck if you were on death row? i fucken doubt it, they'd be too dumb to understand
 
keystroke said:
if he didn't want to die, he shouldn't of went in the first place. sure the death penalty sucks, but he knew that.
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We ALL see your point. It's COMMON SENSE! What you lack is the ability to deepen your horizons through feeling, as most other people in this thread have been able to accomplish.

Are you wrong? No... what you see is all that exists [in your personal reality]. You do, however, come across as ignorant to all that sense more, than what the government 'says' is right and wrong.

johnnybopbop said:
the point is:
why give dumb fucks like that the time of day? do you think they'd honestly give 2 flying fucks of fuck fuck if you were on death row? i fucken doubt it, they'd be too dumb to understand
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I don't know personally... but that's not the point. My opinion [and I'm sure everyone elses] isn't based on whether we'd get the same treatment in return, but rather on our belief system.
 
This isnt about one dumbfuck. This is about all the dumfucks that get themselves put on death row, whatever their crime. The point is, the the death penalty is wrong. The circumstances of certain crimes dont warrant the murder of another human being. In doing so we are as morally wong as the crimiinals themselves.
 
I am sorry, I have just read this page of the thread, and so I have no idea what has been or hasnt been said as yet so I maybe repeating what everyone else is saying. But basically, the logic that should be applied here is that as drug users, and Keystroke, you said that you havent taken drugs in the last 6 months... I am assuming then at some stage you did, and therefore qualify as a perfect example of your own lunacy.

You, as a drug taker, have an understanding that when you pay for drugs, you are financing a person to obtain those drugs. Illegally. By this transaction you are agreeing that drug taking, therefore drug trafficking is not something that is amoral to yourself personally. You understand that this is what needs to be done in order for you to partake in a valid activity that people have been doing for thousands of years, and that is getting high.

How can you then, someone who is a drug users and finances the activities that allow for such 'crimes' to take place, come back and say that someone deserves to die for this ? You are a hypocrit. Anyone in this thread that has ever payed for drugs and agrees with this death sentence is also a hypocrit.

Your justification on the whole matter is that he knew the laws, he knew the punishment. He shouldnt have done it. Really ? Just like you knew the laws and the punishment that you would have recieved for partaking in drug or infact any illegal activity ? At the very most, I can imagine a few of here, or maybe even yourself Keystroke (although I doubt this very much) have weighed up the pros and cons in which repercussions would have been considered. That process that you went through, if you did, would have been the exact same process that he went through.

Although he was probably more a of human for his final decison, as it was his brothers love that overrode as the pro, and not the con of the death sentence.

In some sick sense I respect the man.

And No Keystroke, certainly not you.
 
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keystroke said:
exactly how many times have you seen me consume drugs in the past six months? oh, wait a minute, it's zero. you haven't left the house.
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well, what about in the past 12 months eh?

oh my, i've got a mental disorder, how kind of you to point that out, i would have never realised otherwise.8)
 
yeah keystroke, i wouldn't start flinging stupid challenges around mindlessly.

particularly if they involve asking people to testify on your NON drug usage.

unless you can confidently assert that you have never procured drugs illegally, the point is moot.

you are a hypocrite.

pointing out circumstances of others that you obviously believe to be unfortunate, and therefore worthy of applying your scintillating wit to, is extremely uncool.
 
keystroke said:
While I understand that what Van did was wrong, he knew it was wrong, but chose to do it anyway, I fail to have any sympathy for the man because he is the one that was prepared to risk death for a few dollars and all of the odds were against him severely.
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not wrong...against the law...big difference!

whether against the law or not and whether he knew the full consequences of his actions or not, killing someone for this is really not going to do a whole lotta good...killing people for using or importing and exporting drugs doesn't change what people will ultimately do and therefore maybe there could be other more educational means found in which to educate people about the potential dangers of taking drugs...

How about viewing the abolition of capital punishment as an opportunity for us to find new and effective solutions to some of the problems which capital punishment is deemed to deal with.
 
Keystroke, i'm giving you an informal warning: No personal attacks. (re: sylvia saint). Absolutely unneccessary. This thread is debating drug-traffiking. Next time, i'm giving you a formal warning.
 
Rubber_Duck said:
I know this is slightly off topic.

On the news they said that 400g could have endaged 26 000 lives, i no nothing about heroin. Is that just a huge exageration.
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I've stated this previously in posts that may or may not have been deleted.
 
samadhi said:
Keystroke, i'm giving you an informal warning: No personal attacks. (re: sylvia saint). Absolutely unneccessary. This thread is debating drug-traffiking. Next time, i'm giving you a formal warning.
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Sorry - I've just read the thread again and there was no attack made by Keystroke??

Can you kinly point out said attack against SS?

Just for the record - SS has attacked mine & Keystroke's personal lives in a few posts and nothing has been said to him, other than a couple of comments being deleted by Brad so why is a public warning being given to Keystroke? If anything the warning should be given to SS. How biased is it, that you would give a warning to someone that does not share your sentiments but would fail to give one to someone who does?

BTW I thought that's what PM's were for - so that you could warn someone without making it public??
 
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breakyaself said:
How can you then, someone who is a drug users and finances the activities that allow for such 'crimes' to take place, come back and say that someone deserves to die for this ? You are a hypocrit. Anyone in this thread that has ever payed for drugs and agrees with this death sentence is also a hypocrit.

Your justification on the whole matter is that he knew the laws, he knew the punishment. He shouldnt have done it. Really ? Just like you knew the laws and the punishment that you would have recieved for partaking in drug or infact any illegal activity ?
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you seemed to of completely missed my post where I've stated that if I get caught with drugs, I will comply with whatever punishment deemed necessary by the law enforcement. America has capital punishment, why isn't there a "boycott america" thread?


as for silvia saint :|
 
^^ LOL

If we were to make threads RE every injustice that goes on the in the world, we would have no time to do anything else. Because there are just so many. Not publicly voicing an opinion dosnt mean people dont care. Dont be so fucking silly. Please. :)
 
lostpunk5545 said:
Yes it does make it less right. It makes it no less or right to them but they are wrong.
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So, what youre saying "Im fucking right and its unjust because i said so"?

I never would have you of all people would be so easily alligned to a "Bushism"

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