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Botanical and Herbal board?

Should Bluelight have a dedicated Ethnobotany Discussion forum?

  • Yes, and I would frequent such a forum

    Votes: 57 55.9%

  • Yes, but I probably wouldn't browse it much

    Votes: 14 13.7%

  • No, I don't think it would get much interest

    Votes: 26 25.5%

  • I don't mind/I don't know

    Votes: 5 4.9%
  • Total voters
    102
PepperSocks said:
Also if your botanical is a depressant or stimulant, there's likely a thread in OD.

If your Botanical is a psychedelic; there's likely a thread on it in PD.

If it's an herbal supplement; there's likely something in HL. :)
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My sentiments exactly :)

Sentience said:
If I want to learn about Kratom for example, trying to thumb through dozens of pages of irrelevant material to get to something useful just isnt that practical. Its better if they each have their own threads.
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In my experience, I have found that this is the same situation regardless of what substance you're trying to research. For example, recently I've researched 2C-E, cannabis cultivation, 2C-I, DOC, amongst other things; each of those substances has a thread (or multiple sub-threads) and I too have had to sift through irrelevant crap to find the info I needed. It's just the nature of a public forum, especially one such as BL that gets a reasonably high level of traffic.

Also, I suspect that for each substance you wish to dicuss there will already be a thread dedicated to it in some form. And if you search and such a thread doesn't exist, feel free to start one in the right forum! :)
 
Sentience said:
That is why I proposed the third option of adding ethnobotanicals to the Psychedelics board instead of creating a new forum. Natural drug posts dont get many replies in OD and many ethnobotanicals do not qualify as psychedelics.
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1. Don't post them in OD, but in the Psychedelic discussion. Whlst not all plants mentoined are psychedellc, theres plenty of chat about non-psychedelic plants in PD; I mean, I know I've discussed skullcap, which is barely a sedative.

2.
The Main Natural Psychedelics and Ethnobotanics Thread
Can you use this thread?

3. Start a topic on herbally stuff in PD and see how it goes. We've always accomadated some non-psychedelic topics, and I'm p[retty sure a discussion on kratom (for example) would get some convo happenng :)
 
Its not a big deal to me either way. Its a free service and I am thankful that its being provided to me...However, the yeah votes seem to be winning now.
 
^I'd say that the first answer would determine some opinion, but ether way, I don't think its going to occurr :\ But do open topics in the appropriate forum and see how things go...:)
 
People can think there should be a dedicated board even if they are not the ones who would frequent it. There could be other reasons for wanting a separate board, like not wanting it to clutter up OD. Also, they might vote yes just to make others happy if they want it. I wouldnt dismiss option 2 as not having an opinion. They are both yes answers. Option 4 is not having an opinion.

Like I said before, its not a big deal, but a lot of people are into their ethnobotanicals. Some of them actually work. I think it could feasibly be combined with PD just as easily as it could be its own board.
 
swilow said:
^The discussions your talkkng about already do exist in PD.

I'm not having a dig at you, just saying :)
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I just tried posting a question about Mulungu in PD and it got moved back to OD, which is technically where it belongs unless we amend the PD board to include non-psychedelic botanicals or give it its own board.

The single ethnobotanical thread is a lot less convenient. The size of the thread gets overwhelming and its easier to get lost in the shuffle.

The question also asked about interactions with opiates, yet Im sure there are more people who are interested in Mulungu which is the more rare of the two over on PD compared to OD. Can you understand what the problem is?
 
We'll see what happens in OD. There's a redirect so if PDers want to post in it; it's just a click away. If the OD mods think it belongs in PD they can shift it back over here I guess.
 
The redirect should definitely help. Will I get in trouble for making a habit of posting in PD and having them redirected to OD? Two locations is better than 1.
 
Well how often do you plan on making new threads?

Try searching for an already existing thread on the topic and bumping it up from the abyss in whatever forum it's in.

In the "advanced search" use the "thread titles only" function and just use the main key words. The one for you current thread would simply be one word "mulungu".
 
ive wanted to make a few threads regarding certain ethnobotanicals but never get around to it, and finding the exact information you want even if it exists somewhere on bluelight is next to impossible for some of them. also, i agree with what someone said earlier about PD people being generally more interested in plants. psychedelic substances promote getting in touch with nature, thus we are far more likely to be genuinely interested in plants in general, not necessarily just the ones that can get us really fucked up. i have a newfound interest in plants but am completely unable to exercise here comfortably, usually i end up doing so on shaman australis.

(when i say its next to impossible, i mean UTFSE and it says this thread has that word in it, but buggered if im reading through 10 pages of posts because that word was probably mentioned once in passing somewhere in there)
 
i would head over to rollitup.org - they have a hallucinogen forum as well as tons of pot growers who are also into shroom cultivation etc...
 
Im interested in more exotic ethnobotanicals than just shrooms. Some of them fall under the Psychedelic umbrella and some dont. I dont care whether it gets its own board or if it gets merged with Psychedelics, but it is my humble opinion that there should be a dedicated place for ethnobotanicals besides OD which seems like its more for the hard chemical drug users more than for people experimenting with Kava and Kratom.
 
Sentience said:
Im interested in more exotic ethnobotanicals than just shrooms. Some of them fall under the Psychedelic umbrella and some dont. I dont care whether it gets its own board or if it gets merged with Psychedelics, but it is my humble opinion that there should be a dedicated place for ethnobotanicals besides OD which seems like its more for the hard chemical drug users more than for people experimenting with Kava and Kratom.
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This.

There's SO many ethnobotanicals. I would like to cultivate a garden full of plants, from the really mild to the ones with more interesting effects. People who think there won't be any visits are underestimating the range of plants that fall under this umbrella that are rarely or never discussed on bluelight because there just isn't anywhere appropriate for it. Sure, initially a lot of people won't give a crap, but I'm sure theres a lot of people around here like me who have a lot of interest in plants in general, as well as ethnobotanicals.

If we were talking about marijuana and mushrooms then obviously the ethno board would be pointless, because mushrooms obviously go in PD and marijuana obviously goes in the cannabis forum. Also, a lot of the time it feels most right to post about random herbs and things in the cannabis forum, because the effects are most similar to a very mild stonedness. The problem being that the people in the cannabis discussion are generally not the people to be discussing it with. The only reply you're liable to get is "just smoke some real weed you pussy".
 
I would definitely frequent a botanicals thread as I would like to know which botanicals, extracts, tinctures etc. actually work.

There are many unscheduled plants and it would be interesting to hear bluelighters opinions on them.

There are many different plants with wide ranging effects that I am interested in besides psychedelics, but a thread in PD would work. I think PDers would be more likely to contribute to a botanical thread.
 
A mega-thread for hundreds of different ethnobotanicals just doesn't cut it in my opinion.

Even if it was merged with OD, just adding a little sub-label of 'Botanical-drug" or something similar to the OD list of options OR getting permission to post non psychedelic botanicals under PD would add a little convenience.
 
EntheogenDotCom is a good entheo forum.

I feel that having discussion of lots of plants that are not psychedelic in PD would clutter the forum. Other wise we or OD would already have threads about these topics.

just my 0.02
 
In OD there are several sub-categories. How about adding an ethnobotanical sub-category?
 
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