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miss apple said:
pfft. you were just lucky.

Just because you're confident and happy with yourself doesn't necessarily mean 'everything falls into place'.

Very true, Everyone no matter who in life has there ups and downs....

Yes you could be happy with yourself, but a point in time down the line you can be unhappy with your life, happens to everyone, noone can be happy all the time

;)
 
miss apple said:
pfft. you were just lucky.

Just because you're confident and happy with yourself doesn't necessarily mean 'everything falls into place'.

But tomorrow isn't here yet honey, and who knows what the universe will deliver you then?

Never give up, never surrender! ;)
 
EXACTLY! =D

the world is full of oppurtunities and forks in the road that will all lead you different paths but ultimately we will all be at the end destination ;)
 
Originally posted by miss apple:

pfft. you were just lucky.

Just because you're confident and happy with yourself doesn't necessarily mean 'everything falls into place'.

I will admit that maybe there is a degree of luck in my chance meeting with my new guy, but at the same time, i was single for two years before i met him. Does that mean that it was purely luck, or does it mean that i simply took a chance that i would not have otherwise taken if i had lacked the confidence, and talked to someone that i would not have usually talked to?

When i met him, i had basically had a fantastic month and was really beginning to enjoy being single. I wasn't letting my attached friends make me feel like less of a person because i was not attached like them, and i just went out and did my own thing.
When i said that things "fell into place around me" i don't mean by any stretch of the imagination that it happened instantly - in fact it took a good 4-6 months after i decided to live for myself for me to met someone.

It may have been "luck" as you say Miss Apples, but i think that people are the masters of their own fates, and that the universe will only take you so far. Eventually you have to get out there and try new things. I gave this guy my number - he rang it. I would not normally do this, and i have benefited from this unual action as a result. What's the old adage - nothing ventured, nothing gained?

I'm not saying that you do not do this - please don't think that - i'm just saying that (especially amongst people i know) there seems to be a lot of complaining about what people don't have from people who have made a very minimal effort to go out and find it for themselves. To those people i ask how they can honestly hope to find something genuinely fulfilling when they have made no effort to seek itout for themselves...?
 
Cosmic I understand what you're trying to say.

All I'm saying is that there was a fair amount of luck in you meeting someone. The planet's were aligned. You were meant to meet him at that time...all that kind of stuff.

I agree that confidence and being happy with yourself are huge contributing factors to meeting someone special. But sometimes it just isn't enough.
 
Yep thats right miss apple, Can never always be happy

And i don't believe in all that alignment of worlds, It's you who choose to find or wait!

Serious, When i goto clubs i don't look for girls no more, Most time now they come to me

It's funny, But thats how it is

Josh
 
Sorry you mean running into someone special is just not enough for some people.....am i right this time ?

:P

Josh
 
no that's not what I was saying either. I said confidence and being happy aren't enough to meet someone. not that meeting someone isn't enough for some people and that some people are never happy.

you're mixing it all around the wrong way.

you do realise that being happy with yourself (ie confident) and actually just being happy are two completely different things don't you?
 
Yep i know they are 2 different things,

Sorry Miss apple, can be abit slow sometimes to understand.....Pretty dumb hey

Anyway.....I'll read it properly next time :D
 
The stench of desperation is really overwhelming in here.

*not looking at anyone in particular*

And I've heard some classics in the last page:

Cohaagen said:
2ND: If I have sex with someone before I make friends with him, then it makes it really hard for me to have sex with him in future. It's like, "we're friends now, we can't fuck."

Firstly, "him"? Something you're not telling us Cohaag? ;)
Secondly, of course you can fuck friends. It makes everything so much more exciting!

Mp3 said:
Firstly most girls don't like just fucking as friends, They call that a player

Yeah but it's behind your back and usually said with a cheeky giggle so it's okay. :)

Cohaagen said:
I also live under the illusion that women are generally after love or something more than just sex. I cannot imagine that women have the same sexual cravings as I do, i just cannot make that link.

If I were a woman, I'd find that a bit insulting.

Mp3 said:
OK, In someways yeah you could find a girl like that, but for that to turn into a relationship will never happen, Girls that just want sex don't want realationships and they'll never love you

Inside every cheap slut, every wild bad party girl, is a quiet, obedient, loving girlfriend just waiting to be brought into line. Tamed, and brought to submission. It just takes the right man. %)
 
I'm single!... Happy?...mmmm.. it has it's advantages and disadvantages... im not sure which out weighs which...

i like my freedom, but i like having someone close :)

im sure we will all find someone soon...ish..... hopefully...

when im with someone I'm =D

and when im single and out partying i'm :p to all the couples.. hahaha :)

Spanks!

Shal...
8o
 
hoptis said:
Inside every cheap slut, every wild bad party girl, is a quiet, obedient, loving girlfriend just waiting to be brought into line. Tamed, and brought to submission. It just takes the right man.
And deep inside every caring, loving, doting girlfriend there is a cheap slut just waiting for the right man. Girls just wanna have fun (or so the song says). ;)
Orginally posted by miss apple
All I'm saying is that there was a fair amount of luck in you meeting someone. The planet's were aligned. You were meant to meet him at that time...all that kind of stuff.
Agreed. A healthy relationship is a matter of the right person, the right timing and the right circumstances. It's one thing to get a date or go out with someone for a few months (we can all manage that much) but it's a totally different story to be with someone who actually compliments your personality,who genuinely makes you happy and who you want to stay with in the long term.

Something that still puzzles me to this day is marriage. From nearly all the marriages I know I've made the assumption that marriage is a matter of ' be happy with what you get' rather then 'get what makes you happy'. How can we expect to grow and change into people that are still suited to each other? Why do we assume that because we're madly in love now and perfect for each other, the situation will still be the same 10, 20, 30 years from now? Is it a matter of wanting safety and security? Is it a matter of wanting to build a stable family and settle down? Is it because people just get tired of the dating scene?

Why get married at all?
 
Why get married at all?

^^ that still puzzles me as well. And lately I've often wondered, except for good friends who are really happy being married, is it because those who do have decided to 'give up' and settle? Or just afraid that if they don't get married soon, they'll lose out and miss the chance of being able to get married?

I hate to admit it, for all my whinging (apologies to those who heard them ;)) I'm happy for once - no pressure, not having to conform to someone's expectations as to how I should behave. Just being me. Of course there's those periods where I want to shove the mushiness of love down couple's throats, but if that happens, er... it's the evil twin ;)

*waits to be flamed*
 
I think it's more along the lines of you madly both in love with each other and you don't want to lose each other.....

Most people who are in that situation don't know what they would do if they lost there love.....

That's where this >> Is it a matter of wanting safety and security

Falls into place

Don't you think ?

Josh
 
i can totally understand why people get married. its a nice thing to do, to commit yourself to somebody formally. one day when i find the right person (if i find anybody at all, it has to happen one day) i'd love to get married and have kids. for me its something i would really want to do.

being single has served me pretty well tho, its meant i can come up to sydney and live up here for a while, when i do get a serious girlfriend i will really want to see her at least once a week and i really would like to talk to her once every couple of days, i need to be in contact with people a lot. i never realised that, but when i'm deprived of real human contact i begin to go weird. i can take it but i become eccentric and start talking to myself, not really caring what other people think.

i really just wish i had some good mates that i could hang out with a bit, that would be ideal. being up here in sydney makes that hard tho... my friends are back in melbourne and i don't really know too many people up here. and if i meet a girl then its gonna be goodbye soon enough anyways. its a friday nite and i'm stuck at home. people don't ring me or want to speak to me, i'm just by myself. nobody really needs me around here anyways, sometimes i don't know why i bother.

people tell me to relax and not try as hard. i dunno how to do that. i have always been a person to work hard and try my best to achieve my goals, and i have achieved every goal i have aimed to achieve. in myself i am sure this approach won't work with people, but i don't know how else to do it. i am an objective person and its hard for me to change that characteristic, and if i do change it then im being a person i'm not, and so its like im lying to myself. but i just don't think that anybody would accept me for being who i am. i've been trying for over a year now and i haven't yet found what i'm looking for.

yeah... i'll stop now. i'm just a bit lonely tonight. but better to get it out than to hold onto it and dwell on it i guess. sorry to bother you.

Cohaa.
 
hoptis said:
The stench of desperation is really overwhelming in here.

*not looking at anyone in particular*


Hoptis my dear boy, you're young, BI and having the time of your life, fucking anyone you seem to cast a lazy eye over. You're lucky enough to be able to chose when , how and if you get involved with someone right now, from everything I've read from you. Do you really think you belong in this thread?

We applaud your lifestyle, your tenacity and your luck, but we need your down-the-nose gazing derision like a fish needs a bicycle.

much love

me
 
fuck being nice, it goes against the whole ethos of this thread. =D this is a thread for bitching and moaning, and decrying the fact that the universe does not have the decency and good sense to recognise just how worthy we are of the partner of our dreams, and making that glaring omission a reality this very minute. there's far too much navel gazing going on in here. complain all you want, but ultimately nobody wants a sad-sack. the best way to attract someone is to live in such a way that a random walking past feels compelled to attach themselves to you because they want to share in what is obviously a good thing. go out there and have a go. :p the best way to repel someone is to get all angsty and introspective. just make a best friend, and take it day by day.
 
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