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Blood sacrifice. Are they divine or satanic?

Gnostic Bishop said:
So is genocide and Christians embrace a genocidal god.

They behold genocide as good. Perhaps that is why Hitler's bank was the Vatican Bank.

Regards
DL
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I'm not sure why you're so adversarial about the subject of the divine. I'm not a Christian but there's something to be gained through the study of any religion.
 
CoastTwoCoast said:
I'm right with the Lord so I'm not worried about what anyone thinks as far as that goes. I think it's really disgusting for religious zealots to act like abortion will send you to hell. I feel so bad for women who are guilty and condemned about it.
Repent and ask for forgiveness. Keep going. Anyone who judges me for that can fuck off. God approves of me. That's all that matters.
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This post is a perfect example of why Christianity is problematic.. C2C you spew hate (and I do know you, since you post your thoughts and ideas constantly... As much as you know me..) yet then feel your in the right to do so because “your right with god.”

To be honest your probably one of the furthest from him and you’ll see come time what I’m talking about.

Yes near death experiences do sometimes portray hell like scenarios but again they are the major minority. Also all people who experience that scene are always “saved.” If you notice no one has ever gone in and not had a moment where they felt saved and pulled out, instead of simply doomed for all of eternity.

I’d suggest you actually start to research them more but as a typical Christian your so entrenched in your beliefs that it’s pointless.

You just keep doing you, not giving a fuck what anyone thinks or how anyone feels, because your “right with god.” You do realize only HE can make that decision not you...

-GC
 
G_Chem said:
This post is a perfect example of why Christianity is problematic.. C2C you spew hate (and I do know you, since you post your thoughts and ideas constantly... As much as you know me..) yet then feel your in the right to do so because “your right with god.”

To be honest your probably one of the furthest from him and you’ll see come time what I’m talking about.

Yes near death experiences do sometimes portray hell like scenarios but again they are the major minority. Also all people who experience that scene are always “saved.” If you notice no one has ever gone in and not had a moment where they felt saved and pulled out, instead of simply doomed for all of eternity.

I’d suggest you actually start to research them more but as a typical Christian your so entrenched in your beliefs that it’s pointless.

You just keep doing you, not giving a fuck what anyone thinks or how anyone feels, because your “right with god.” You do realize only HE can make that decision not you...

-GC
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I don't understand where your disagreements come in. Like in that video where the woman shot herself and saw hell, it's a beautiful thing she became a believer. I do not go around saying every one is going to hell. It is a warning. It is a fact that you need salvation through Jesus Christ to get into heaven. I am not perfect, never claimed to be. God isn't looking for perfect people. Your accusations mean nothing. My sins have been paid in full by the blood of Jesus on the cross.

"You're probably one of the furthest from him." That's very arrogant of you to say. You know nothing. God is the judge of me, NOT you! I know I have God's approval and I certainly don't need yours. Have a good day!
 
Penn is an atheist and I LOVE this quote:

www.thegospelcoalition.org

How Much Do You Have to Hate Somebody to Not Proselytize?

That’s a quote from atheist Penn Jillette, of the magician duo, Penn & Teller. Video, followed by transcript, below: “I’ve always said that I don’t respect people who don’t proselytize. I don’t respect that at all. If you believe that there’s a heaven and a hell, and people could be going to...
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“I’ve always said that I don’t respect people who don’t proselytize. I don’t respect that at all. If you believe that there’s a heaven and a hell, and people could be going to hell or not getting eternal life, and you think that it’s not really worth telling them this because it would make it socially awkward—and atheists who think people shouldn’t proselytize and who say just leave me along and keep your religion to yourself—how much do you have to hate somebody to not proselytize? How much do you have to hate somebody to believe everlasting life is possible and not tell them that?

“I mean, if I believed, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that a truck was coming at you, and you didn’t believe that truck was bearing down on you, there is a certain point where I tackle you. And this is more important than that.”
 
CoastTwoCoast said:
“I’ve always said that I don’t respect people who don’t proselytize. I don’t respect that at all. If you believe that there’s a heaven and a hell, and people could be going to hell or not getting eternal life, and you think that it’s not really worth telling them this because it would make it socially awkward—and atheists who think people shouldn’t proselytize and who say just leave me along and keep your religion to yourself—how much do you have to hate somebody to not proselytize? How much do you have to hate somebody to believe everlasting life is possible and not tell them that?

“I mean, if I believed, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that a truck was coming at you, and you didn’t believe that truck was bearing down on you, there is a certain point where I tackle you. And this is more important than that.”
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This illustrates one of the centtral problems of religions such as Christianity (and the central built-in propagation feature of a system of social control). It ensures the religion spreads... it is by design. It leads to atrocities such as the European colonialism era, and the Crusades. "We're conquering you and destroying your civilization to save you, we're doing God's work!". Proselytizing is disrespectful of the beliefs of others. I am fully aware it is done with good intentions by most who do it but it still is. It's also really annoying and makes it difficult to actually discuss anything.
 
Xorkoth said:
This illustrates one of the centtral problems of religions such as Christianity (and the central built-in propagation feature of a system of social control). It ensures the religion spreads... it is by design. It leads to atrocities such as the European colonialism era, and the Crusades. "We're conquering you and destroying your civilization to save you, we're doing God's work!". Proselytizing is disrespectful of the beliefs of others. I am fully aware it is done with good intentions by most who do it but it still is. It's also really annoying and makes it difficult to actually discuss anything.
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Just come here and let me run my fingers through your hair.
 
blood sacrifices are common in some African religions, in Brazil, there is an underground black magic movement called "macumba". They use animals like chickens and goats, mainly. Some of them have the juridic permissions to express their beliefs freely (Brazil is a paradise)

In general the objective is to adore the dark forces, but these dark forces are by no means satanic, since the devil is a Christian invention. I am speaking here of pagan rituals having their origins in the understanding of Nature.

One of these entities is called "preto velho'" (old black man in a roughly direct translation) there is the good preto velhos and the bad pretos velhos - see the picture below. I am a very skeptical person, who loves science, but I have seen with my own eyes some things that put my skepticism down

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Xorkoth said:
This illustrates one of the centtral problems of religions such as Christianity (and the central built-in propagation feature of a system of social control). It ensures the religion spreads... it is by design. It leads to atrocities such as the European colonialism era, and the Crusades. "We're conquering you and destroying your civilization to save you, we're doing God's work!". Proselytizing is disrespectful of the beliefs of others. I am fully aware it is done with good intentions by most who do it but it still is. It's also really annoying and makes it difficult to actually discuss anything.
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Oh and btw, it is not fair to make a blanket statement that it leads to destroying civilizations. Those are religious zealots/extremists which I am not. I don't consider myself religious at all. I don't know how many times I have to say that.

I am not a violent person at all and I certainly don't go around talking about anally raping someone to "cure" them (perforation & sanguine practices) and enjoying torturing people. But that's the type of satanic sickos you guys let post around here. That's the problem, not me.
 
jose ribas da silva said:
blood sacrifices are common in some African religions, in Brazil, there is an underground black magic movement called "macumba". They use animals like chickens and goats, mainly. Some of them have the juridic permissions to express their beliefs freely (Brazil is a paradise)

In general the objective is to adore the dark forces, but these dark forces are by no means satanic, since the devil is a Christian invention. I am speaking here of pagan rituals having their origins in the understanding of Nature.

One of these entities is called "preto velho'" (old black man in a roughly direct translation) there is the good preto velhos and the bad pretos velhos - see the picture below. I am a very skeptical person, who loves science, but I have seen with my own eyes some things that put my skepticism down

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As if you know about that!!!

I'm with you on the part "but I have seen with my own eyes some things that put my skepticism down" from my own experience in things I've had to learn myself.
A group I was in touch with I'd prefer not to name here have members in Brazil & I was in touch with their leader for several years & got to meet him once when he came to the UK & he spoke very highly of what you posted about.

As far as I'm aware Santería / Lucumi is an off-shoot of it too.

You ever come across The Church of The Inner Light in Brazil?
 
Cream Gravy? said:
I'm not sure why you're so adversarial about the subject of the divine. I'm not a Christian but there's something to be gained through the study of any religion.
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Absolutely.

If you have not learned how harmful they continue to be to society, you are not looking the right way.

I am adversarial and call out the evil as is my duty to my society.

For evil to grow and all that.

If you think you should live by the Golden Rule, change the labels in this quote to women, minorities, gays or children being brainwashed by religions and it shows what we should be thinking and doing for each other.

"First they came for the Jews, but I did nothing because I'm not a Jew. Then they came for the socialists, but I did nothing because I'm not a socialist. Then they came for the Catholics, but I did nothing because I'm not a Catholic. Finally, they came for me, but by then there was no one left to help me." – Pastor Father Niemoller (1946)”

Regards
DL
 
CoastTwoCoast said:
So you're disagreeing with me for no reason. Nothing new. Jesus Christ is the only way into heaven.

I was talking about someone who is worshipping a demon. If you worship a demon and die, you are not going to heaven. Did you see what I posted above, or can you not read?
Salvation through Jesus Christ is the ONLY way. I don't care what you believe, that's the truth.

"There is no pardon for a person who dies in his rejection of Christ. The Holy Spirit is at work in the world, convicting the unsaved of sin, righteousness, and judgment (John 16: eight ). If a person resists that conviction and remains unrepentant, then he is choosing hell over heaven. “Without faith it is impossible to please God” (Hebrews 11:6), and the object of faith is Jesus (Acts 16:31). There is no forgiveness for someone who dies without faith in Christ.

God has provided for our salvation in His Son (John 3:16). Forgiveness is found exclusively in Jesus (John 14:6). To reject the only Savior is to be left with no means of salvation; to reject the only pardon is, obviously, unpardonable."

It's true that many churches are corrupt and have even sold out to the devil for money. You have to choose a church wisely. I like to listen to and watch sermons online.
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Now even churches are selling out to the devil.hilarious about the extent that the world is corrupted in your view.
 
Zopiclone bandit said:
As if you know about that!!!

I'm with you on the part "but I have seen with my own eyes some things that put my skepticism down" from my own experience in things I've had to learn myself.
A group I was in touch with I'd prefer not to name here have members in Brazil & I was in touch with their leader for several years & got to meet him once when he came to the UK & he spoke very highly of what you posted about.

As far as I'm aware Santería / Lucumi is an off-shoot of it too.

You ever come across The Church of The Inner Light in Brazil?
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Yeah man, I cannot speak openly about this subject, given details, but I can give you my personal vision, which has been acquired through some experiences that I have witnessed so far

Once upon a time a skeptic falls apart, probably a philosopher said this in some point of the history, anyway, when I was an adolescent, about 17, I went with my mother to an “umbanda” center in Brazil. Umbanda is a religion that have its primordial origins in the slavery when Brazil was a Portugal’s exploitation colony; it is neither Christianity nor black magic, it deals with good energies grounded on African traditions and knowledge about nature.

The cult consists of two parts: (1) a “lecture”, where diverse themes are debated depending on the schedule; (2) spiritual benediction ritual (I could not find a better world than “benediction” to translate what I want to say but I am not satisfied). In this ritual, there are several persons who are there receiving the entities. These entities, as I have mentioned in my previous post, are, by no means, satanic or divine, they are entities, different ones.

When I sat there in front of the “possessed person”, an old woman, grandma-style, clearly poor, she was speaking with an abnormal resourcefulness, completely uncorrelated with her appearance. Her eyes, holy shit, these were maddened eyes, those things were not from this spiritual plane. I knew from that point that something else exists behind our comprehension.

I kept going to this center during a time and by accident a met a guy there, which knew a little bit more about occult forces than I would like to have discovered in my life.

But this is a subject for other post that I will write in the near future...
 
CoastTwoCoast said:
People into that should ask themselves "If my "Lord" is supposed to be so loving, why is he asking me to kill people?"
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Have those people never read the Christian bible then? God kills about a million people, including through instructing his followers, while Satan kills like five or ten or something. Who is the real "evil" one?

Look up LaVeyan Satanism if you want some idea on what actual Satanists believe. They see the biblical Satan as a metaphor, not a literal belief, and they don't do any human sacrifice. The Satanic Bible says do not harm anyone unless they harm you first.

Of course the Satanic Bible also tells you not to do drugs so... I don't subscribe to it. But I also like to understand the ideas I criticise.
 
Wilson Wilson said:
Have those people never read the Christian bible then? God kills about a million people, including through instructing his followers, while Satan kills like five or ten or something. Who is the real "evil" one?

Look up LaVeyan Satanism if you want some idea on what actual Satanists believe. They see the biblical Satan as a metaphor, not a literal belief, and they don't do any human sacrifice. The Satanic Bible says do not harm anyone unless they harm you first.

Of course the Satanic Bible also tells you not to do drugs so... I don't subscribe to it. But I also like to understand the ideas I criticise.
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Satanists are deceived for the most part and you have been deceived too if you believe that crap about there not being any human sacrifices. I've heard a former satanist himself say that the higher up you go as a satanist, human sacrifices are what you must do. I've even seen a former banker who got mixed in with that crew by doing finances for the elite...he said he didn't believe in Satan until he was asked to sacrifice a child as he climbed the ranks.

...but please continue with your warped thoughts and continue to defend the devil. Guess what? Satan isn't going to save your soul, ONLY Jesus can.

This board is strange to me. I can't tell if people are actually this brainwashed or if it's some kind of agenda because 99% of this board comes right behind me and defends Satan. That's why I don't show up here anymore.
 
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