RCs Big Mephedrone thread

[chris_159]

Hi, new bluelight member here. Just wondering - how safe is it to buy mephedrone from an online plant growth shop (claims to be 99.7% pure, labelled strictly not for human consumption). Is it safe to just buy this and go?

Thanks.

That's how I bought it - it's fine. Assuming you're in the UK, online shops caliming to sell it as "plant food" are really just exploiting a legal loophole - it's not a banned substance, but it is illegal to sell it for human comsumption. That's why they claim it's not for that on the website.

I'm not sure if it is really used as plant food, but the few sites I'd found didn't actually sell anything else remotely botanically-related, so I doubt it. In fact, on closer inspection, one site claimed that 1g was about enough for "two adult plants" - which I read as a pretty neat joke, seeing as plant sizes are so varied that this couldn't possibly be accurate in it's legal sense.

Enjoy!

 

[BeautifulSoul]

New blue light member here

i've been reading forums on the site for a while now, although never really taken the time to join.


anyway! i just thought i'd come on here to share my experience with drone.

i done my first line back in december at a gig, at first i thought it was MDMA but then noticed that, although the effects were very similar there was a difference and so then got on to ask the guy who i was with that gave me it what it was and he told me drone. All in all, the gig was absolutely amazing! i just moved with the music all night and ended up talking absolute shit to my mates on the train home.

After that night, i never done it again till a couple of months ago when i decided just to go and order some of my own. i ordered 1g and done it in 100mg doses over about 4 or 5 hours and the effects were amazing! i definitely prefer drone to MDMA and doubt i'll be going back to it any time soon! Since my order a couple of months ago, i've been ordering it on a weekly basis and have been having pretty good wednesday/friday nights (wednesday nights because i dont have college on thursdays!) got 3g being delivered tomorrow and look forward to having a nice buzz and intense euphoria yet again!

 

[LoveTechno]

That's how I bought it - it's fine. Assuming you're in the UK, online shops caliming to sell it as "plant food" are really just exploiting a legal loophole - it's not a banned substance, but it is illegal to sell it for human comsumption. That's why they claim it's not for that on the website.

I'm not sure if it is really used as plant food, but the few sites I'd found didn't actually sell anything else remotely botanically-related, so I doubt it. In fact, on closer inspection, one site claimed that 1g was about enough for "two adult plants" - which I read as a pretty neat joke, seeing as plant sizes are so varied that this couldn't possibly be accurate in it's legal sense.

Enjoy!

Thanks Chris - this is what I thought just needed a second opinion

Unfortunately it wont be long before all these websites are banned.. and then comes the 50% baking soda stuff from vendors.

EDIT: Also, in reference to your above experience, the experiences ive had on Mkat (2 or 3) have been similar, small doses during the night and had a brilliant buzz. Slept OK on it aswell. This is why I am so surprised reading some posts about people getting blue knees, staying up for days and the rest of it.. maybe it is different outside the UK or maybe these people just overdid it?

 

[Joelacus]

I saw a quote from the head of the British Horticultural Society (or something just as daft) saying this would have no benefits for your plants what so ever. This would be an expensive way to grow your roses! Also don't use stuff in your garden centers as a cheap alternative!

 

[OneVerse]

Hi I currently feed my bonsai tree with this plant feeder.
Its doin really well, every 2- 3 days I feed my tree , and its buzzin of the food!
Positives - green leaves(plenty of them)
Negetives - mild dehydration from time to time but water sorts this out.

 

[chris_159]

Hi I currently feed my bonsai tree with this plant feeder.
Its doin really well, every 2- 3 days I feed my tree , and its buzzin of the food!
Positives - green leaves(plenty of them)
Negetives - mild dehydration from time to time but water sorts this out.

So, better or worse than MDMA?

 

[chris_159]

Unfortunately it wont be long before all these websites are banned.. and then comes the 50% baking soda stuff from vendors.

True, although I think the first hearing on it is in April, so there's probably a couple of months yet. Having said that, I'm not really up on my substance control laws, so that's just a guess - does anyone here have a better idea?

One plus is that you can order stupidly large amounts in bulk on most sites (could have sworn I saw one offering up to 5kg!), so if you've got the cash you should be able to buy a decent amount beforehand - just dont' get caught with it after!

 

[Harambulus]

Lolz imagine if the police monitored the websites and filtered the orders that were over X weight just before the law came to pass. Then they would have name address and all and it was only a matter of coming to claim the prize.

After watching the Wire I could well imagine they'd wanna do a few 'high profile busts' to show (or at least make it appear to the general public) they are 'on top of this new terror'.

 

[LoveTechno]

I'm guessing the latter. Due to availability and moreish-ness, it's extremely easy to binge on.

True.. like with anything enjoyable - have enough and you're going to love it, have far too much and you're going to regret it.

I have ordered some mephedrone online, will report back with the experiences (although I already have a good idea how its gonna go )

 

[Harambulus]

Very agreeable 1st trial with a small reasonable dose

Substance is of a powdery but crystalline nature- and thankfuly NO smell whatsoever, taste is acrid, extremely sour reminiscent of pure MDMA crystals

resting heartrate 75 bpm (days before experiment, taken on a few diff occasions)

preload-
l-arginine 500mg
ginko- 60
magnesium 500mg

1st ingested approx 20mg mkat @ 2.45 pm approx.
after 10 mins approx. -after = Heart rate 93 (felt slight caffeine buzz from first small dose)
after 15-20 mins approx HR= 93

3.08- redose of approx. 62.5mg

3.14- slight euphoric push tingling at back of spine nice and clean- start smiling and a small chuckle (similar to early MDMA buzz)- resting HR 93

can feel small waves but not a substantial push so-

3.20- redose again with another 62.5mg

3.22- lifting more now feeling more horny and 'sped up' very similar to good coke (+MDMA tinge), feels really clean, still feel in control.-(Resting heart rate) RHR-102

3.25- feel some tension in the jaw now but teeth are not together (magnesium probs diminished this as has made BIG diff in SWIM's experience when taking MDMA).

3.26- put on porn- definite surge in rushes as what SWIM presumes to be dopamine is flooding my brain aided by the provocative images

3.28- slight sweating from face- more and more rushes as SWIM just begins to watch the porn :D

3.31- HR 120 (attributed it to porn 'exciting SWIM' as could feel it shoot up at that point)

3.33- sweaty palms and feet

porn not turning SWIM on so much now; have to actively concentrate on it

3.37- urges to shit -take as symptom of drug as voided soon before consumption

3.38- wanking hard to do (no hint of erection) although still enjoying watching stills of porn on free site as gives SWIM surges of more sexy euphoria- don't feel dissatisfied- feel sexy and contentish just looking at sexy bodies

3.41- compulsively switching from one porn thing to the next, the compulsiveness is what SWIM believes dimishes the ability to get erection and sexually gratify himself due to not being able to stay on one thing long enough (same as with coke/speed). Still no frustration with this, feels good just going with the flow. Warm body rush; breath in and feels really good. Keep having urge for a nice cool beer or some other alcohol (though have non in the house. May get some in a while but feeling good and buzzing as it is, prob after the peak...)

3.45- RHR (though the porn is making it rise) 129

3.46- give the porn a break for a sec try putting on some music...

have had a bad chest infection for nearly two months now and still some amounts of phlegm but it is clearing up- the drug seems to be a vasodilator of sorts as the phlegm comes up a little easier

3.48- kick drum is kicking, I am tapping my feet- music appreciation enhanced- check. very clean feeling buzz

taking periodic small sips of water

3.50- first small hint of loss of high

3.53- feel it slowly dissipating- gradual and not too abrupt going to shop to get a cpl beers to stave off dysphoria

4.15- woooo! Just returned from the shop. thought SWIM had been coming down on the way there gently drifting back to baseline. On the way back suddenly started getting rushes again and it gave way to a more serene content more classically good coke high SWIM guesses. So BE WARNED, SWIM was rather temped to redose and prob would have done if at home with the stuff but leaving it for 15-20 minutes gave way to another high. Now in hindsight SWIM would say the first rush was very similar to MDMA as it was less controlled, a little more 'mashy' compared to this new focused content high. Also just took one sip of alcohol then felt immediately 'off' like it stole SWIM's high. Right away took another sip and put it in the fridge- so very possibly there is a bad reaction between the two- the previous nice clean high suddenly felt a little sketchy even after ONE sip, tho hard to say conclusively so soon. Since it tarnished the high SWIM don't wanna touch it now (though might for experiemntal purposes) :D- the nice content 'second rush' feeling is coming back. Then after a few seconds it felt good again so SWIM doesn't know if these mix well- gonna have another sip in a sec. prob. but will just leave it. Yea just took another one and feel 'off' again it seems to be stealing the high- fuck alcohol!

The first is definately a cautionary advisory- wait a while if the 1st buzz is going.
Second- doesn't seem to mix well with alcohol.

4.26- Watching porn again now brings SWIM right back up- it seems to be a perfect compliment to this substance that or real girls In hindsight that is what made swim come back up while walking home form the shop- looking at all the sexy girls out on the street.

4.32- just took a shit, slight diorhea as expected. Feeling 'mellow' now. Have a feeling this is the point most would wanna redose. How SWIM feels can well imagine that this is where the negatives would come in 'chasing the high' so is resisting temptation- takes little resistance due to expectaiton of increased negative consequences if SWIM did so. Still small waves of euphoria. When SWIM is sedentary he feels it 'wearing off a little' however as soon as he does something (inc. typing this) SWIM feels himself come up again a little.

4.38- Slight dry mouth taking small sips of water (not beer! >_<)

quite a strong urge for a chewing but don't have any

4.41- certainly tapering out now- every so often getting those little stabs of disappointment that it is diminishing though dealing with it. Keep getting thought of redosing but as SWIM said he's quite confident the sides would increase so not gonna.
continued erection troubles >_<

4.52- SWIM suddenly felt hungry- ate some home made stew, feels alot better now

4.46-8- housemate comes back (non drug user so don't make it apparent SWIM's had anything) SWIM is more chatty than usual- SWIM usually just hides in his room- this time SWIM is smalltalking and finds it helps with comedown as does anything which is 'active' apparently. SWIM would say this is primarily a dopamine antagonist (speculation of course) due to how it is affected by anything active.

Taking a few sips of beer again- questionable whether SWIM wants it or not.

5.03- SWIM feels pretty normal again. Still contemplating redosing...prob will drink the alcohol to cushion SWIM as the main urge to redose is that being chucked out of Eden type feeling although is not very bad. Still planning when to take next dose. SWIM has found alcohol one of best comedown remedies (when he took coke) although not sure in this case- will take small sips and examine...SWIM thinks it best to definately get back to baseline cos then at least if he redoses another time he can know what to expect.

5.09- couple more sips of beer. feel a bit woozy. Don't think it's a good mix really however wants to cushion the comedown >_<.

5.14- hands sweaty and slight 'sweet smell' to them but doesn't seems to be anything overpowering.

5.29- SWIM just finsihing editing this. Feels pretty normal again now.

P.S. SWIM checked eyes throughout and found they did not dilate out of the ordinary. Also non of the chapped lips phenomena people speak of- SWIM again attributes such reactions to too large a dose.

General thoughts
SWIM only took around 150mg (prob a little less) and it had these definite effects. All the bad reactions SWIM imagines are due to overdosing rather than the substance itself. SWIM found the high probably even cleaner than the best MDMA SWIM had (or at least the same, SWIM says better only cos this substance doesn't have the comedown effect MDMA does). SWIM is very pleased by this high as he loved the coke high more than MDMA high but hated that only route of administration (forget IV! :D) was nasal- and also hated the nigthmarish comedowns of speed. SWIM found the initial buzz similar to MDMA then second buzz actually preferable due to loving his dopamine highs.

Like everyone says SWIM definately sees the moreishness but find it quite controllable if you are a rational person. SWIM is contemplating next dose :D.

 

[nolys]

@ Harambulus, very very good report. I enjoyed reading it lol and very honest throughout...
only thing is that we dont SWIM here on bluelight, it doesnt offer any legal protection anyways

 

[Harambulus]

^Cool.

I used to find it annoying reading SWIM all over myself but been reading the drug forum alot recently so I guess I wrote it with the intent on posting there too but can't be assed now since I had to write out some bio shit before joining.

 

[Harambulus]

To add: I kept feeling slight ups and downs (and general melancholy and apathy towards passtimes that usually interest me) which I took to be symptomatic of low dopamine levels (which I could diagnose from my horrific amphetamine days). I took an l-tyrosine tablet (500mgs) and feel much better now. It seemed to level me out.

I think I'm gonna try preloading with it tomorrow and see how it goes. I don't wanna overload myself with dopamine tho- prob one as I wake, dose with meph a cpl hours later, then one as soon as I feel the itch of a comedown.

Thought that might be of use to some others.

 

[Yuffie]

I swore I wouldn't do this stuff again after last time because it was so moreish - alas, I did.

Spent Wednesday, Thursday and Friday night at my mate's, during which time we probably did about 3.5g each (inhaling). Was awake for the whole time. I came home Saturday just as the most horrific comedown I've ever experienced in my life got under way. It started with feeling really quiet, antisocial, not wanting to talk to anyone (the absolute opposite of the way you feel just after you've done a line) and then I started to feel a bit cold, heart was going pretty slowly, slight tingling in my hands. After a while I found that I was saying something to someone and then forgetting that I'd said it about 30 seconds later, although this was probably down to the extreme exhaustion. I managed to get about two hours of extremely broken sleep last night, and woke up at 6am this morning. Also I have a line of red, dry skin on my top lip. My heart rate still doesn't feel completely normal and I'm pretty much incapable of forming any emotions right now, I'm in literal zombie mode and feel fairly depressed. All in all it's pretty scary. It was so fun at the time but after a couple of lines the buzz wasn't quite what it had been, but I still felt compelled to do more. Now I'm thinking that the high (the euphoria in particular is extremely short lived) is nowhere near worth feeling this awful.

Also I haven't eaten anything at all since Wednesday morning but I don't feel hungry in the slightest, but I've noticeably lost weight already and I know I need to get something down me. Any suggestions for something that I can force down me without too much unpleasantness, preferably with vitamins in it?

 

[HdoubleODeezy]

it would be good to take a multi vitamin if you have one for the vitamins and maybe some crackers or cereal to eat? some cereals have a lot of vitamins added in to them. and try some lip balm for your upper lip, maybe carmex (sp)?

 

[lolfire]

Hey, im new to this forum, and recently been taking mephedrone. After taking a gram ( i know, small amount, im only starting) and the side effects i have felt while coming down from it, were shaking vision, trails following objects moving. And stomach aches, this is directly after, the next few days had severe effects on me, including major depression, head aches, feelings of anxiety, paranoia and feelings of wanting more and more meph. Borderline addiction.
This comes from a 15 year old.

 

[Newbierock]

^ You shouldn't be doing shit like thius at 15 dude, especially with how little they know.

And a gram in a night is toomuch, I don't care what your 16 year old friends tell you, you past the point of abuse.

not trying to talk down to you or anything, i'm in no position too. I Abused E from 14-17 like a madman, but at least they have some idea of what damage E can do..

 

[Harambulus]

lolfire's message is testament to the fact that this thread is probably causing more harm than harm prevention.

Note he writes:

'After taking a gram ( i know, small amount, im only starting)'

He obviously thinks that you're 'supposed' to take more, prob judging by what others write here (3.5 g's in one session, wtf?).

I am 12 stone and I took the most I've taken last night which is around 200mg bombed and I was up for like 4 hours and still felt wired when I got home.

I want to say it so others who haven't taken this yet do not take the advice of the status quo on here which seem to be extremists taking grams at a time.

Let them continue to do so if they wish but don't think you have to take anywhere near that to get a suitable lasting high.

Note also that I have taken a dose like this 3 nights in a row (which I would never dream of doing with something like MDMA considering the toll on the body the next day) and each time I slept soundly after and awoke the next day feeling fine (give or take).

All this talk of the extreme effects of the drug are due to the extreme quantities it is being consumed.

I'm sure I'd get some extreme effects if I drank a whole bottle of vodka. I recall drinking 1/2 a bottle of whiskey one new years and blacking out before the new year came. I awoke and my dad said he carried me to bed.

Wasn't gonna add more to this thread but thought that pertinent to mention in the spirit of 'harm reduction' in light of lolfire's seemingly misguided post.

 

[Pegasus]

^Thanks for that. I'm in the USA and meph isn't really big here so we have a little more trouble delegating helpful advice.

Hey, im new to this forum, and recently been taking mephedrone. After taking a gram ( i know, small amount, im only starting) and the side effects i have felt while coming down from it, were shaking vision, trails following objects moving. And stomach aches, this is directly after, the next few days had severe effects on me, including major depression, head aches, feelings of anxiety, paranoia and feelings of wanting more and more meph. Borderline addiction.
This comes from a 15 year old.

I haven't taken the drug you are talking about but I can tell you just from your description that you took way too much and it made quite a lot of stress on your body. Be more careful, man... Don't go by what everyone else says is a proper amount and all that. Research around here on Bluelight* and get a good idea of what others take, and then start even lower than that and find a good dose that is reasonable.

I'm not going to preach to you about doing drugs of this nature at your age, but I do think it should at least be pointed out that the drug you are using is one that many veteran poly-drug users (including multi-stimulant users) here on Bluelight are afraid of touching because of the effects it almost certainly has on the valves of the heart. Be careful man, you're young and taking huge doses of a drug that is so likely toxic to your heart is quickly putting you in a bad position.

* You can also use Google to search Bluelight... it works a lot better. Type in Google "site:bluelight.ru"+"your search term here" (minus the "" and +).... Your end result in the search box will look something like this: site:bluelight.ru mephedrone dose

 

[chris_159]

Hey, im new to this forum, and recently been taking mephedrone. After taking a gram ( i know, small amount, im only starting) and the side effects i have felt while coming down from it, were shaking vision, trails following objects moving. And stomach aches, this is directly after, the next few days had severe effects on me, including major depression, head aches, feelings of anxiety, paranoia and feelings of wanting more and more meph. Borderline addiction.
This comes from a 15 year old.

I agree with the above posts mate, 1g is WAY too much. I can't claim to be an expert at all - I've only tried it once - but the little I've heard and experienced says to me that this is a ridiculous amount. Like I mentioned before, I shared 1g with 3 friends, took it for about 7 hours, and we still had about 1/3 left over. And the side-effects you've mentioned scare me - I experienced nothing like that at all. It soudns to me that for this drug, less definitely equals more.

It's a drug I enjoy, and would recommend to others who like the feeling, but as always, everything in moderation. I plan on doing it again occasionally, but I'd definitely not want to ever do that much. I shoudl point out that I used to take 500mg of MDMA on a night out a year or so ago, and I'd always want to have a bit more spare before I went out - I loved taking larger amounts (most friends would share 500mg between 2, or 1g between 3), and would snort it so I'd come up straight away. So I feel the fact that I'm recommending from my own experience to take it easy really does say something.

Also - and this is a question for everyone who takes such large amounts - is it really that different? The guy who sold it to me at the party, as well as friends who have taken it before (and everyone on it that night), told me there's no point in taking large doses - when you're up, you're up, and that's about as buzzed as it gets - redosing just keeps you at the same level. Based on this I thought that, given my history with MDMA, I wouldn't be very satisfied with it's power. I was. Again, I have only taken this once, so I won't claim to be an expert, or tell people that more is wrong. But these forums are aimed at harm reduction, not blind naive encouragement, so I feel it's a point worth noting.

But regardless of what you here on here, 1g is TOO MUCH to take when you're just experimenting. The fact that there is very little research into the long-term effects (even from taking it once, remember!) really should make you cautious about your dosing. And not to sound patronising, but considering your age it's an even worse idea. Don't get me wrong, I did similar things at that age, so I don't blame you. But trust me on this, now I'm in my twenties, I regret it.

This site is a fantastic resource for first-hand information on drugs, but I cannot stress enough that if people tell you it's too much, it almost certainly is. There are many folk on here who have lived years of trying to get high/buzzed/fucked/whateveryoucallit, and only now wish they had been a bit more sensible. Heed their advice. I only wish I'd found this a few years earlier than I did - it would have probably made me think twice about doing those things. I'm not currently experiencing any long-term side effects from drugs I've taken, but at 21 it's too soon to tell.

I appreciate this sounds like a lecturing parent, but I am genuinely concerned about you. At 15 I wouldn't expect you to be all careful and cautious about drugs, but I would expect you to strongly consider changing how you do it once you've been given advice. That's part of what growing up and coming of age is about, and it's a long process, not a quick event or decision - whether you believe it or not, you're already doing it, and decisions you make now will in part determine the person you will be for the rest fo your life. Carrying on this way could really screw you up, and the guilt of it being all your own fault is something you'll live with forever.

Good luck with future experiments mate, and I really do mean that. I just hope you exercise a bit more caution next time.