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atm23 said:
OK so I got some diaz, mainly coz I just needed something to calm me down a bit whilst I get myself together and with the intention of tapering off the booze.

My GP wasn't having any of when i tried to get a script for it, I got anti depressants, but we got they well covered else where.

Does anyone have any experience of coming off alcohol using Diaz, what period I should be looking at and dosages ?
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if u google the diaz . info that comes in the sheet with the packet it gives u an idea of how they should i t be used 4 booze taper actually i got one here atm
i , but your best of looking it up yourself . Cos i don't wanna give u duiff gen.
Best of luck.
 
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Gotta it Brimz thanks i had looked at soem the patient info leaflets btu have found one that give s the info now, many thanks
 
i still cant beleive doctors hand out ssri's to people wanting to come off booze? or even anxiety issues? They are uesless for both.
 
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I dont want to polute this thread as its covered in the SSRI one but as in many cases my annxiety leads to depression they go hand in hand.

I kind of agree with the booze thing but GPs as so reluctant to hand out benzos these days and have gone on record as a poly drug abuser in the past
 
Apologies if I've asked similar questions a while ago.....but my circumstances have changed a little, and I just wanted to ask a few questions to hopefully achieve a little piece of mind.

When I first started using diaz, it was just for comedowns (not very often 2-3 weeks in between). Anyway, I started taking a little more, maybe the odd 20-30mg for a nice weekend night in watching a film. Then started taking small doses the odd time for functional purposes (job interviews, social appointments I wasn't keen on, first week of new job ect). Anyway, I realised I was going down a nasty path. I'd ended up taking it 4 or 5 days in a week (averaging 100mg a week maybe).

So I decided to pull myself together before I fucked up. Now I just save it for comedowns (which are even rarer these days, 1-2 months) and the very important functional episodes (job interviews et al). I still do like a few on a Friday night with a glass of wine and a good film/book though. So my ultimate question is........If I take 5-6 days taking nothing at all, and then say 20-30mg diaz in a weekend......then take those 5-6 days off again, I'm going to be safe from running into any troubles? (assuming of course that I stick to this in a very discipled manner and don't start upping the dose). Thanks for any help.

(As a side note, when I have take 5-6 days breaks, or even longer sometimes, I have never noticed any sort of withdrawal, other than perhaps mild irritability on the 3rd/4th day)
 
fucked my tapaer up ha, smashed k which i knew was a bad idea then my mum ets up and ses me zombified round the house, ahw thinks dodgy walking ('moonstomping') from k is actually from benzos, so iv led her on to believe her as such, i'd never be taking this 'safe in much higher doses and actuallyt used on children because it supresses your breathing less than other sedatives/dissociative ' rather thnt 'il takw the blue smarties from pakistan' anyway /rant dunno if it even makes sense, mebbe too much k, maybe not enough. who knows.. all i do know is that i'm gonna be smashing meph for the next few hours. my benzo tapers probably fucked, 4mg clonaz and 1mg xanax yesterday which works out to 60mg diaz equiv, fuck it, after today ima stay in bed for a week (unless for wrk) nd detox completely :), cold turkey off the lot of them. Just so when i need it i can sleep at night etc.. anyways
Then hopefully start at #1 where i've been 100x before, and try and continue to use without being an addict. hah.
 
4mg clonaaz 2mg xanax and some nitrazepam down the hatch, gonna cold turkey it tomorrow properly, and stick ti it
 
I just had a 30mg Jellie, first time I've ever seen em. A proper squidgy looking haribo egg. Tis lovely. I know they're coming from india/pakistan. Anyone else come across these recently? I have a fairly high tolerance to benzos, I've had 1 jellie and 1mg xanax and smoked a little gear and I'm feeling great. They must be well made, far better than the 30mg tabs you often get.
 
WayneRooney said:
Apologies if I've asked similar questions a while ago.....but my circumstances have changed a little, and I just wanted to ask a few questions to hopefully achieve a little piece of mind.

When I first started using diaz, it was just for comedowns (not very often 2-3 weeks in between). Anyway, I started taking a little more, maybe the odd 20-30mg for a nice weekend night in watching a film. Then started taking small doses the odd time for functional purposes (job interviews, social appointments I wasn't keen on, first week of new job ect). Anyway, I realised I was going down a nasty path. I'd ended up taking it 4 or 5 days in a week (averaging 100mg a week maybe).

So I decided to pull myself together before I fucked up. Now I just save it for comedowns (which are even rarer these days, 1-2 months) and the very important functional episodes (job interviews et al). I still do like a few on a Friday night with a glass of wine and a good film/book though. So my ultimate question is........If I take 5-6 days taking nothing at all, and then say 20-30mg diaz in a weekend......then take those 5-6 days off again, I'm going to be safe from running into any troubles? (assuming of course that I stick to this in a very discipled manner and don't start upping the dose). Thanks for any help.

(As a side note, when I have take 5-6 days breaks, or even longer sometimes, I have never noticed any sort of withdrawal, other than perhaps mild irritability on the 3rd/4th day)
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Sorry to re-post but I don't want this getting lost on the old page. Its just I'd really like a few answers for peace of mind.
 
You should be fine if you stick to the routine you've described and take 5-6 days out. I don't see any real problems with that.
 
Stopped coldd turkey on monday, with a final shitton of benzos on sunday as a goodbye. First 2 days were alright, then tuesday night i took some clonaz so i could sleep, then some diaz wednesday morning. Nothing since, but since wednesday its been absolute hell.

Cant sleep, i dont even have the energy to get out of bed, answer the phone, cant eat, cant sleep hence why this is being posted at 3am.. its the first time i've had the energy to go on the fucking internet or do anything other than lie here since wednesday morning. took 50mg promethazine an hour ago for some kip, doesnt seem to have helped gonna take another 50mg in a min. Withdrawn from diaz before but it wasnt anywhere near as bad as this, i feel like death.

Anyone know how long approx this is gonna last, or at least till i can eat and get out of bed, its driving me insane. Been on diaz mainly, started a taper and got down to 40mg then quit CT from there. Benzo use has been insane last few months. feel like a fucking idiot for getting myself back into this position, only this time much much worse.

Cheers.
 
fuck mate i feel for you, benzo WD is HELL and seems to last so long, please try and taper if you can, i jumped off my taper last year at 10mg and the cold turkey was even hell from that and cold turkey also seems to cause more lasting effects than a taper does.

promethazine and DPH do not help in benzo wd, infact they add to the restlessnes and agitation, trust me, can make things ten times worse when trying to sleep.

Diaz WD from cold turkey because of its long half life, takes about 6-7 days to peak, then a week or two of it winding down, trust me a taper is horrible but cold turkey is ten times worse!

Also there are risks of seizures and other serious health problems from cold turkey, please its not to be fucked with !
 
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from wiki

Smoking tobacco can enhance the elimination of diazepam and decrease its action
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anyone ever notice it make a difference? I remember on xanax a few times i definantly noticed the buzz decreased after a cig, but havent noticed it today with the vals ive had over the day.
 
caved and necked 2mg clonaz, had no effect so just had 2mg xanax. Fuck it i'll try a taper, this is too hard my fuckin heads screaming and its getting worse not better.
 
ColourfulKronos said:
caved and necked 2mg clonaz, had no effect so just had 2mg xanax. Fuck it i'll try a taper, this is too hard my fuckin heads screaming and its getting worse not better.
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are you taking them prescription or just bought online/streets?

I got a pretty nasty addiction from buying them online, got hooked, had to go to the doctors, was honest about everything and they put me on a very very slow taper with diazepam, i sped it up a bit as i wanted off, but if you taper slowly at the reccomended amounts you jstu feel normal.

Cold turkey is not worth it and heavy withdrawals symptoms dont even peak for a week or so, (with medium to long acting benzos), its dangerous and is pure mental hell, just be careful man, benzos are pure evil coming off em.
 
Bought online. Still feeling no relief at all with the aching in my legs, not even tired. gonna have some diaz. Im starting to think i might be withdrawing froim opiates too (though my use has been low/frequent, so never really thought much about it) as the only time i've felt normal was on opiates, stopped the pain in my legs and i seemed to have more energy.

Doctor won't give me a script, she knows my history and knows i can get them local a phonecall away, so it seems pointless to get off tem by a drs script when theres so much about locally. Right necked 40mg diaz, hopefully this will help with the aches n pains, il work out what to start tapering from tomorrow if it does help
 
its illegal for doctors to refuse to help you with coming off benzos afaik, because the wd symptoms if severe enough can cause seizures which in rare cases can possibly lead to death, find a new GP seriously, they cant not set you up with a taper, if that fails look for a local drug/alcohol center where they help people get clean stay clean, they cant not give you a taper program im im serious!

I told my doc everything, knew i was buying them online, you just gotta find the right GP, first guy i saw set me up with a taper that was far too rapid, so i spoke to another one who understood and put me on a much slower and very manageable taper. that was last year and im back to being able to use them occasionally.
 
Debating whether to have a blue with the wine I'm drinking, will make me feel good and sort out my hangover tomorrow.
 
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