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tekkeN said:
which may result in death - :( mine were apparently 'level 5' seizures my pupils were fully dilated even with a torch right in my eye

kind of funny story: the first one I had was while I was walking into uni, and they were filming some sort of drama on the long road alongside the park with a fake ambulance.. me an my pal had just walked past the ambulance when I collapsed, luckily he caught me but because he was holding me from the ground he couldn't reach his phone so was yelling at other students 'call 999 get a fuckin ambulance etc' and they were just laughing thinking he was making a joke

first thing I remember is being driven to the hospital surrounded by paramedics, was a right piss take as that was the first time I had tried to go into uni (or work) for like 6 weeks :p
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Lately I've thought that maybe a good reguklar dose of Benzos is just what I need but the more a I read here the more I think other wise...HR in action;)
 
benzos just dont work for me anymore, after some ritalin i took 70mg to try and calm me down to sleep, didnt feel a thing, im worried once it weans out of my sister im going to get withdrawals as ive been playing with high doses for about a week or 2.
 
bignbrown said:
diazepam
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yeah but they ain't from a uk chemist if i remember they are from your postman;)
So fuk nos what really mgs u have taken , if u had 7 10mg from a script i bet it would be different to whatever u got atm.

Yeah cheers Danny makes me feel much better on my taper:)
I know all that any way now ,
jus a pity thr fukwit doc 16 years ago didn't take it in2 acct when he started me on them.
 
i was taking roche 10s for ages i got 1000 and pretty much ate them every day until they were gone and i didnt have any withdrawl symptoms which i was very very surprised by? but i only take them occasionaly now and prefer temazepam as they dont have that metabolite that lasts fors hours and hours and leaves you feeling groggy for ages like diazes do
 
triphead34 said:
i was taking roche 10s for ages i got 1000 and pretty much ate them every day until they were gone and i didnt have any withdrawl symptoms which i was very very surprised by? but i only take them occasionaly now and prefer temazepam as they dont have that metabolite that lasts fors hours and hours and leaves you feeling groggy for ages like diazes do
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It's likely that the long metabolite (Nordazepam) is what saved you from really nasty withdrawals.
The shorter the half-life the quicker the withdrawals come on.
When you've a metabolite that leaves the body slowly, it's less likely that you'll suffer withdrawal symptoms.

Still, I wish I had your body! Got mad RLS right now and I'm trying not to take more Codeine and Diazepam :\
 
Snap with the RLS, and the codeine and benzos.

I took 6-8mg clonazepam per day (about 120mg - 160mg diaz equivalent) for about a year, and took about the same time to taper off. (Swapped cloanazepam for diazepam about half way through.) Personally I think slow tapers are the way to go. You can continue to function pretty normally, and tapering faster than your gaba system can "catch up" just results in more debilitating wd's which continue long after you finish your taper.

The experience still taught be a big lesson though, and now I find I can control my benzo usage easily, and never get cravings for them or anything.

Once I was off them, my drugs worker told me they were harder to get off than heroin, but I don't really agree.

The physical wd's from benzos might be tougher than heroin, but heroin gets such a strong psychological hold of you compared to benzos. I reckon for most people, getting off, and particularly, staying off heroin would be a lot more difficult.
 
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The physical wd's from benzos might be tougher than heroin, but heroin gets such a strong psychological hold of you compared to benzos. I reckon for most people, getting off, and particularly, staying off heroin would be a lot more difficult.
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I've never been addicted to heroin so I can't compare the two addictions but I do know about benzo addiction and IMO there is a very very strong psychological hold to go along with the physical one. I have been on and off them for about 7 years now and I still struggle to imagine my life without them.
 
atm23 said:
Lately I've thought that maybe a good reguklar dose of Benzos is just what I need but the more a I read here the more I think other wise...HR in action;)
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oops missed this, yeah if you can manage without them its probably the best thing to do, that said some people do need benzos for anxiety and stuff but don't medicate yourself speak to your doctor about it.. I started taking them due to insomnia, really bad idea as they totally fuck up your sleeping pattern, while they helped for a while in the long run they can just make it worse

as for comparing kicking a benzo habit and a heroin one, I would think that while benzos do have a psychological grip it would not be anywhere near as strong as with heroin.. simply because heroin is so enjoyable.. can't say as never had a proper habit with opiates but seen people coming off heroin and it looks as ugly as coming off benzos, just doesn't go on so long, but heroin is so much more pleasurable than benzos so the psychological habit must be harder to shake off
 
I totally agree that heroin is so much more pleasurable than benzos, but the benefits that benzos seem to provide, such as more confidence, less anxiety hold a big psychological grip. For the last 7 years I have pretty much relied on benzos to get me through a lot of social situations and not having that crutch anymore is really scary. Even if I am not experiencing the physical symptoms of anxiety anymore, I will always remember how much easier so many things were when on benzos.

Hopefully in time once I am totally off the benzos and have spent a lot of time not relying on them then the psychological cravings will go away.
 
yeah can certainly see how that would be very hard, but its not like heroin which just completely dissolves all your problems and leaves you in blissful apathy, once you've been there its hard to forget about it and many heroin addicts lives revolve around the drug which makes it even harder to go without

all the best shaking benzos :) I am really thankful I don't suffer from anxiety, a lot of my mates do and none of them really got a benzo habit as big as mine was, hate to think what it would be like if I had started taking them for anxiety and not just to sleep, can imagine the psychological craving for them in social situations like you said would be a lot stronger.. hopefully if you spend long enough without them you would rather suffer sometimes than give in to the cravings and end up with a habit again
 
Like you're addicted to the motions of (rolling &) smoking a cig, or the motions of chasing / shooting gear, you're - or at I am - also addicted to taking X-number of pills a day :\

So the psychological aspect of Benzo addiction is really quite strong for me personally.
 
I guess its something I'm only just really starting to get to grips with, my alcohol abuse has got so bad over the last couple of years. but when I take benzos I seem to get the effect I'm really seeking from the booze and its much cleaner.

I've got a small Loprazolam script at the moment and its helped no end with both sleep as well as muscular tension, but I have little desire to drink whilst taking it.

I'm not sure the doc will give me a diaz script, the last one said she might well have done so normally but given my chemical history she didnt think it was a good idea. I'm sure she was propably right but maybe a benzo habit would be better than 1/2 a litre of scotch a day :|
 
atm23 said:
I guess its something I'm only just really starting to get to grips with, my alcohol abuse has got so bad over the last couple of years. but when I take benzos I seem to get the effect I'm really seeking from the booze and its much cleaner.

I've got a small Loprazolam script at the moment and its helped no end with both sleep as well as muscular tension, but I have little desire to drink whilst taking it.

I'm not sure the doc will give me a diaz script, the last one said she might well have done so normally but given my chemical history she didnt think it was a good idea. I'm sure she was propably right but maybe a benzo habit would be better than 1/2 a litre of scotch a day :|
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Ativan is harder 2 get than Diaz so i'm sure if u asker 2 swap to diaz your doc probably would.
But loraz/Ativan is better 4 acute anxirty ime
 
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Its Loprazolam I've got at the mo, not Lorazepam, god dam those names and my shite spelling;)
 
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