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Poll on Benzo Acquisition
From this Thread it seems their are alot BLers that use Benzo's
I would like to Start a Poll on how people obtain their Benzodiazepines.
I Think it would be intresting and Valid.
Maybe something like :
Scripted from Your GP
Scripted from an Addiction Agency
From the faires ( internet )
From family members with a script.
Other which would include Buying off the street , Buying other folks scripts.
Obviously you can give as little info or as much as you like.
The way that Benzo use has changed in the last 5 years due to availibity from the Internet is astounding , where as back before the GPs guidlines were changed Prescriptions were handed out like sweets.
I would appreciate the help of a MOD to help me set this up as i don't think i can do it please correct me if i'm wrong .
Cheers
From this Thread it seems their are alot BLers that use Benzo's
I would like to Start a Poll on how people obtain their Benzodiazepines.
I Think it would be intresting and Valid.
Maybe something like :
Scripted from Your GP
Scripted from an Addiction Agency
From the faires ( internet )
From family members with a script.
Other which would include Buying off the street , Buying other folks scripts.
Obviously you can give as little info or as much as you like.
The way that Benzo use has changed in the last 5 years due to availibity from the Internet is astounding , where as back before the GPs guidlines were changed Prescriptions were handed out like sweets.
I would appreciate the help of a MOD to help me set this up as i don't think i can do it please correct me if i'm wrong .
Cheers
Jabberwocky
Frumious Bandersnatch
gp, ip- to keep eevryone subdued, street from someone who got them from the fairies, one off from someone who bought them otc while travelling
hi
how do you just stock up? my doc reluctantly gave me a small amount of a low dose. it wasnt easy.
i found an online pharm that has them real cheap but they need a prescription as well.
where can i get them?
thanks
tried out my roche vali`s last night 30mg
absolutely lovely
god i`ve missed them,
think i`ll get some more and stock up
how do you just stock up? my doc reluctantly gave me a small amount of a low dose. it wasnt easy.
i found an online pharm that has them real cheap but they need a prescription as well.
where can i get them?
thanks
I'm off to the docs tomorrow morning to discuss my depression and anxiety issues, its a new GP and I've been off meds for a few months.
After last years messy debacle involving me ending up min residential care I've learnt a fair bit about what up with me so I'm recognizing the panic attacks, general anxiety and depression for what they are....most of the time.
Anyhow at the moment I've slipped back into drinking to take the edge off, I don't know how people cope but I gotta have something, I've stopped everything else.
I understand the dependency issues but what are people recent experiences with getting a Diaz script, I get the impression there have been changes made to what GPs can and can't do in terms of longer term scripts etc ??
After last years messy debacle involving me ending up min residential care I've learnt a fair bit about what up with me so I'm recognizing the panic attacks, general anxiety and depression for what they are....most of the time.
Anyhow at the moment I've slipped back into drinking to take the edge off, I don't know how people cope but I gotta have something, I've stopped everything else.
I understand the dependency issues but what are people recent experiences with getting a Diaz script, I get the impression there have been changes made to what GPs can and can't do in terms of longer term scripts etc ??
From a friend
I usually get between 6&8 10mg Diazepam each week from a friend that is prescribed them and has been on 40mg a day for over a year now, he is trying his best to reduce his usage so that's why he sells them to several close friends.
I usually get between 6&8 10mg Diazepam each week from a friend that is prescribed them and has been on 40mg a day for over a year now, he is trying his best to reduce his usage so that's why he sells them to several close friends.
Kronos
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Been sticking to my taper (mainly), but im starting to have second thoughts. My sleepings shite and i've got really bad aching joints, plus a constant headache. Off back to my doctor tomorrow and after hearing her advice i might just do it cold turkey, i reckon i can.
Maybe i started the taper dose too low, but id prefer a rough or 2 weeks of proper WD than a slightly less rough few months, i get nothing recreational from them at all except anxiety relief and sleep, and on this dose i dont even feel normal. Meant to be dropping from 45 to 40 aswel today, had 35mg, but on the opiates to get rid of the headache and aches.
I dont seem to get much rebound anxiety when i cold turkey, iv tried recently and it was awful, like a constant panic attack but i was using other substances too. And i'm committed to doing it, so why not give it a proper shot, seems to make more sense than dragging out this discomfort for months
Any thoughts?
Maybe i started the taper dose too low, but id prefer a rough or 2 weeks of proper WD than a slightly less rough few months, i get nothing recreational from them at all except anxiety relief and sleep, and on this dose i dont even feel normal. Meant to be dropping from 45 to 40 aswel today, had 35mg, but on the opiates to get rid of the headache and aches.
I dont seem to get much rebound anxiety when i cold turkey, iv tried recently and it was awful, like a constant panic attack but i was using other substances too. And i'm committed to doing it, so why not give it a proper shot, seems to make more sense than dragging out this discomfort for months
Any thoughts?
I suffer from anxiety, mainly at night when I am trying to get to sleep, my heart races and I keep thinking I am having a heart attack. I asked for Benzo's at my doctor's and she was having none of it, she said they were too addictive.
I have never actually taken a benzo before, but sometimes I feel like my body is crying out for them. I have a stressful job, and a stressful family, I am also very competitive.
I don't know if I should take benzo's or not, I don't want to become addicted, I don't want to lose my job, and I certainly do not want to drink alcohol and go insane on them.... I would end up in jail.
But the panic attacks are HORRIBLE, and I miss smoking weed which I can no longer do because it makes my heart beat very fast and induces a panic attack which is horrible.
Today I found out that my receptionist is on 12mg of Diazepam per day, and she seems to function perfectly fine. Fuck knows how she got her doctor to prescribe her them though, she is nowhere near as manic/anxious as I am.
I really don't know what to do when it comes to benzos.
I have never actually taken a benzo before, but sometimes I feel like my body is crying out for them. I have a stressful job, and a stressful family, I am also very competitive.
I don't know if I should take benzo's or not, I don't want to become addicted, I don't want to lose my job, and I certainly do not want to drink alcohol and go insane on them.... I would end up in jail.
But the panic attacks are HORRIBLE, and I miss smoking weed which I can no longer do because it makes my heart beat very fast and induces a panic attack which is horrible.
Today I found out that my receptionist is on 12mg of Diazepam per day, and she seems to function perfectly fine. Fuck knows how she got her doctor to prescribe her them though, she is nowhere near as manic/anxious as I am.
I really don't know what to do when it comes to benzos.
Kronos
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When i first started ages ago using it was for anxiety and panic attacks. I was also a heavy drug abuser for years previously so i used them for comedowns too.
Keep going to your doctor, dont ask outright for benzos, just tell her about the stress and the panic attacks. Also, ask for CBT The least s/he could do is perscribe you a beta-blocker, most likely propranolol which regulates the heartrate and would help with some of the symptoms of your panic attacks (the racing heart).
If that doesnt work, keep going back. Don't just ask for the drugs, explain your situation and every time you go tell her more and more how stressful and getting on top of you it is Also ask to be put on the list for CBT (cognitive behovral therapy), it helps and works wonders with many people for anxiety and panic disorders.
I wouldnt advise taking matters into your own hands and getting them off the street, that should be a last resort if even an option. The doses mentioned in this thread are usually for people with huge habits, abusers and people that have been on them for years. 5mg or even 2mg diazepam would help short term. But its a bad path to go down.
In short:
Go back and ask to be put on the waiting list for CBT, then ask if theres anything at all she can give you so you can carry on manageability with life until you start the CBT sessions. You'l probably get a beta blocker script until you start the CBT, which will help alot. benzos arn't usually the answer and can do more harm than good in alot of cases
Hope that makes sense, i'm a bit fucked atm
Keep going to your doctor, dont ask outright for benzos, just tell her about the stress and the panic attacks. Also, ask for CBT The least s/he could do is perscribe you a beta-blocker, most likely propranolol which regulates the heartrate and would help with some of the symptoms of your panic attacks (the racing heart).
If that doesnt work, keep going back. Don't just ask for the drugs, explain your situation and every time you go tell her more and more how stressful and getting on top of you it is Also ask to be put on the list for CBT (cognitive behovral therapy), it helps and works wonders with many people for anxiety and panic disorders.
I wouldnt advise taking matters into your own hands and getting them off the street, that should be a last resort if even an option. The doses mentioned in this thread are usually for people with huge habits, abusers and people that have been on them for years. 5mg or even 2mg diazepam would help short term. But its a bad path to go down.
In short:
Go back and ask to be put on the waiting list for CBT, then ask if theres anything at all she can give you so you can carry on manageability with life until you start the CBT sessions. You'l probably get a beta blocker script until you start the CBT, which will help alot. benzos arn't usually the answer and can do more harm than good in alot of cases
Hope that makes sense, i'm a bit fucked atm
I actually asked for propranolol before I asked for anything else, as my uncle is on propranolol and my dad is on something similar and they have both benefited from it. She said that she didn't want to prescribe me a beta-blocker because I have asthma. I then asked of a ACE Inhibitor, and she said that she was reluctant to prescribe them until I had undertaken a 24-hour ECG and tried CBT.
I am unwilling to undergo CBT sessions. I have been implementing CBT interventions for a number of years now, and half the time I actually expect my 'service users' to turn around and punch me in the face because they are so god damn patronising. Don't get me wrong, it works for some people, but it isn't for me. If I could think myself better then I would have done it a long time ago.
I then asked about diazepam and she said no because of its potential for abuse, addiction and dependence. I have probably made this doctor like a bitch, but I don't think she was because all of her practice was probably clinically justified.
I am unwilling to undergo CBT sessions. I have been implementing CBT interventions for a number of years now, and half the time I actually expect my 'service users' to turn around and punch me in the face because they are so god damn patronising. Don't get me wrong, it works for some people, but it isn't for me. If I could think myself better then I would have done it a long time ago.
I then asked about diazepam and she said no because of its potential for abuse, addiction and dependence. I have probably made this doctor like a bitch, but I don't think she was because all of her practice was probably clinically justified.
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I have pretty bad athsma and it didnt stop me getting my script, but i think the athsma was undiagnosed back then, cannae remember too well.
I know how bad and horrible GAD and panic attacks are, and depending on how bad you are at the minute, really weigh up if its worth going down the benzo route.
Ever thought about zopiclone? They help no-end with sleep, and they're legal to import small amounts for personal use. There's still an addiction/relying on it issue, but the lack of recreation and the bitter taste it leaves in your mouth next morning along with other side effects if abused, well i dont know any zopi addicts thats for sure, and it could help you alot.
Try mentioning it to her, and really explain how negatively this is all impacting on your life. Doctors are much more relaxed about prescribing zopiclone than benzos.
Since you have no benzo tolerance, 3.75mg before you go to bed would definitely do the trick if you want to go down that line, if you did get a script or bought some then i'd advise only using on really bad nights, or when really nessecary. avoid alcohol with zopiclone aswel, thought not officially a benzo, samme kind of aangers when mixing
I'm no doctor though, maybe someone more knowledgeable can chime in?
Another bit of advice, which i'm sure you've heard before, would be good cardio exercise on a semi-regular basis, it can really help. cut back on the coffee/caffiene related productssand try not to eat 3 hours before going to bed
Thats all the i can think of off the top of my head, good luck mate and i hope things get better for you
I know how bad and horrible GAD and panic attacks are, and depending on how bad you are at the minute, really weigh up if its worth going down the benzo route.
Ever thought about zopiclone? They help no-end with sleep, and they're legal to import small amounts for personal use. There's still an addiction/relying on it issue, but the lack of recreation and the bitter taste it leaves in your mouth next morning along with other side effects if abused, well i dont know any zopi addicts thats for sure, and it could help you alot.
Try mentioning it to her, and really explain how negatively this is all impacting on your life. Doctors are much more relaxed about prescribing zopiclone than benzos.
Since you have no benzo tolerance, 3.75mg before you go to bed would definitely do the trick if you want to go down that line, if you did get a script or bought some then i'd advise only using on really bad nights, or when really nessecary. avoid alcohol with zopiclone aswel, thought not officially a benzo, samme kind of aangers when mixing
I'm no doctor though, maybe someone more knowledgeable can chime in?
Another bit of advice, which i'm sure you've heard before, would be good cardio exercise on a semi-regular basis, it can really help. cut back on the coffee/caffiene related productssand try not to eat 3 hours before going to bed
Thats all the i can think of off the top of my head, good luck mate and i hope things get better for you
I asked my doctor today about the benzo cut backs. He said that a lot of doctors want to get the piss takers off them - like the people that are prescribed loads, and go and sell them. However, since he can see that I'm not taking the piss, and my dosage isn't going up, then he has no problem with me staying on them for even the next few years, if I want to. Which is good. I asked about temazepam, for sleep, and he just said he'd rather give me an extra 3 x 5mg diaz a week, instead, due to temaz having a decent street value (not that he doesn't trust me). He said he's more than happy to prescribe me benzos, as long as I don't start increasing my dose. He's a really nice guy, actually. Hooray for finding a decent doctor, at last.
smackcraft
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been through the exact same thing, its bloody horrible
i fucked my head on shrooms and couldnt smoke weed for years with out having a panic attack
went through the same thing of not baing able to sleep every night for about a year and a half thinking i was going to die n shit
not going to lie to you valium sorted me out when ever i could get a hold of it , it was hard to get back then for me tho but i would of took it as much as i could to get over that shit cos it was the most horrid feeling ever ,, man i feel for you and what ur going through its not nice at all
believe i or not E's actually sorted all the anxiety for me and changed me back to the way i was before i screwed my head up on the shrooms
DONT self medicate with benzos is my biggest advice, ever. You run out you are in serious shit. Have you tried talking to someone about it? Ive had shite councilors and stuff but ended up going private and spoke to some people (proper trained psychologists) that have really helped my anxiety.
Benzos are good for short term use, comedowns, a phobia like flying, or taken once in a while with a beer or two, and lastly, bad trips. All short term things or things taken a few times a month.
Obviously taking a few xanax weekly, or some diaz isnt going to get you dependent but i wouldnt wanna ever risk it as its the most awful thing ever trying to come of
OK so I got some diaz, mainly coz I just needed something to calm me down a bit whilst I get myself together and with the intention of tapering off the booze.
My GP wasn't having any of when i tried to get a script for it, I got anti depressants, but we got they well covered else where.
Does anyone have any experience of coming off alcohol using Diaz, what period I should be looking at and dosages ?
My GP wasn't having any of when i tried to get a script for it, I got anti depressants, but we got they well covered else where.
Does anyone have any experience of coming off alcohol using Diaz, what period I should be looking at and dosages ?
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