Benzo Discussion

[tekkeN]

eitizolam was a weird one for me, either didn't take enough and just felt a bit chilled, or as in the disaster at the airport, took way too much and blacked out.. its never got me to sleep anyway but if you suffered from anxiety I think it would be a good one

 

[Myshkin]

personally dont find zopiclone recreational really.

I don't think anybody does. Was this ever an issue for debate / discussion?

I didn't know they weren't controlled but im pretty sure their not classed as a benzodiazepine

Am I getting deja vu?

Seriously, this has been covered before. Many times. They're not a benzodiazepine. Nor are they recreational.

 

[jancrow]

Does zopiclone not do the strange things which zolpidem does? I was scripted zolpidem for a bit and found that with weed and forcing yourself to stay awake you could get into an interesting and very alien-feeling albeit difficult to recall place. Very effective for getting you under (not so good for keeping you there) and no shitty aftertaste the next morning.

 

[Myshkin]

I don't think zopiclone does that. As mentioned, my zolpidem experiements failed, but I saw my dad basically tripping out of his face on it more than once. Blissfully unaware of course. Frightening.

 

[jancrow]

Yeah I'm not sure how I'd have reacted to the giant wooden soldier standing at the end of my bed while I was going to sleep if I hadn't already deliberately exposed myself to that type of thing! As it was I just burst out laughing and pretty much blacked out at the same moment.

 

[Myshkin]

You exposed yourself to a giant soldier, eh?

Sorry, couldn't pass the opportunity up. Another regular occurence with my dad was speaking absolute gibberish. He seemed to be awake and aware of his surroundings but he was essentially sleeping. I hear that's pretty standard with zolpidem.

 

[monstanoodle]

Ok... I've concluded that Nitraz makes me extremely angry the day after....
So much so that I just punched a hole in what was unfortunately a chip-board wall. Wish I punched a harder one that wouldn't break.
A broken hand would be better than a broken wall and the consequences when my mum gets back from her trip to London

... Catch you later... much later...

 

[Myshkin]

Arrrgh! Shittin' hell Monsta! Not good.

Best of luck with that one. Are you sure that lack of non-booze and non-benzo sleep isn't catching up with you?

 

[debaser]

These days, benzos tend to give me long nightmares... Not good... Nitrazepam is on a league of its own, strange benzo indeed.

 

[brimz]

I don't think anybody does. Was this ever an issue for debate / discussion?



Am I getting deja vu?

Seriously, this has been covered before. Many times. They're not a benzodiazepine. Nor are they recreational.

he was talkin 2 me sam i think you'll find if thats ok

 

[Myshkin]

he was talkin 2 me sam i think you'll find if thats ok

I know he was. For the first paragraph, which was fine.

The rest of it was just reiteration of points already made, plus an affirmation that zopi's aren't recreational. Which nobody had claimed they were in the first place.

Some people use these threads for information and it gets a bit irritating for them if there are endless re-treads. That's all I was saying.

Chill with a benzo or something...

 

[brimz]

I know he was. For the first paragraph, which was fine.

The rest of it was just reiteration of points already made, plus an affirmation that zopi's aren't recreational. Which nobody had claimed they were in the first place.

Some people use these threads for information and it gets a bit irritating for them if there are endless re-treads. That's all I was saying.

Chill with a benzo or something...

I no what yor sayin , just me n donnie are mates like.%)

Would be awaste if idid any more 30mgd n 25mg ni is all good with a couple of thatchers.

 

[Kronos]

Ok... I've concluded that Nitraz makes me extremely angry the day after....
So much so that I just punched a hole in what was unfortunately a chip-board wall. Wish I punched a harder one that wouldn't break.
A broken hand would be better than a broken wall and the consequences when my mum gets back from her trip to London

... Catch you later... much later...

Put a convenient lovely new picture up!

 

[monstanoodle]

Arrrgh! Shittin' hell Monsta! Not good.

Best of luck with that one. Are you sure that lack of non-booze and non-benzo sleep isn't catching up with you?

It's likely. Plus the tapering, being fed up with all my families "little faults", likely not grieving enough for my late grandparents... Just want to feel normal.

Put a convenient lovely new picture up!

I thought of that but I think that only works in cartoons.

Said sorry for spoiling her trip, went to my room, cried, cut and I'll likely not eat for a good while.
Fuck's sake I'm turning a Benzo thread into the dark side...

**Signs off**

 

[brimz]

These days, benzos tend to give me long nightmares... Not good... Nitrazepam is on a league of its own, strange benzo indeed.

My favoutite tbh n inc flurnitraze , temaz , all of the bastadrd things

But i like the Moggs the most , i think its cos of the chilled next day thing , alot of folk ain't 2 keen but i like it.

I could swap it with me doc. 4 lorazepam , xtra diaz , temaz (not the liquid though) but i wouldn't .
I think different benzos effect us all different i likethe hypnotics personally.
Lorazepam has 2 be the best 4 acute anxiety 4 me though .

 

[TJF]

Sorry to go back to zopiclone, but although its not recreational, it's still as addictive as benzos whatever the drug companies promote it as.

 

[irishdubliner]

just out of curious, what are withdrawl syptom of benzo?i hear they are alot worse than heroin withdrawl is that true?any1?

 

[Danny Weed]

They will vary from person to person I think depending on how long you have been taking them and what dose. From Wikipedia :

The following symptoms may emerge during gradual dosage reduction but can usually be reduced in intensity or eliminated altogether by reducing the rate of reduction:

Anxiety, possible terror and panic attacks[17][36]
Agitation and restlessness[17]
Hypochondriasis[17]
Dilated pupils[4]
Impaired concentration[36]
Nightmares[37]
Insomnia[37]
Muscular spasms, cramps or fasciculations[38]
Electric shock sensations[3][39]
Blurred vision[17]
Dizziness[17]
Dry mouth[17]
Aches and pains[17]
Hearing impairment[17]
Taste and smell disturbances[17]
Chest pain[17]
Flu like symptoms[17]
Impaired memory and concentration[17]
Increased sensitivity to touch[40]
Increased sensitivity to sound[17]
Sounds louder than usual[40]
Objects moving[40]
Increased urinary frequency[17]
Numbness and tingling[17]
Hot and cold flushes[17]
Headache[36]
Rebound REM sleep[41]
Stiffness[17]
Fatigue and weakness[17]
Hyperosmia[42]
Restless legs syndrome[11]
Metallic taste[42]
Photophobia[42]
Paranoia[42]
Hypnagogia-hallucinations[6]
Nausea and vomiting[37]
Elevation in blood pressure[43]
Tachycardia[44]
Hypertension[45]
Postural hypotension[37]
Depression (can be severe),[46] possible suicidal ideation
Tremor[47][48]
Perspiration[36]
Loss of appetite and weight loss[49]
Dysphoria[50][51]
Depersonalization[52][53]
Derealisation (Feelings of unreality)[40]
Obsessive compulsive disorder[54][55]
Tinnitus[56]
Paraesthesia[40][42][53]
Visual disturbances[53]
Mood swings[17]
Indecision[17]
Gastrointestinal problems (Irritable bowel syndrome)[57][58][59]

An abrupt or over-rapid discontinuation of benzodiazepines may result in a more serious and very unpleasant withdrawal syndrome that may additionally result in:

Convulsions, which may result in death[60][61]
Catatonia, which may result in death[62][63][64]
Coma[65] (rare)
Suicide[5][66][67]
Attempted suicide[53]
Suicidal ideation[68]
Self harm[53]
Hyperthermia[37]
Delusions[69]
Homicide ideations[70]
Urges to shout, throw, break things or to harm someone[17]
Violence[71]
Post Traumatic Stress Disorder[11]
Organic brain syndrome[72]
Psychosis[73][74]
Confusion[35]
Mania[75][76]
Neuroleptic malignant syndrome like event[77][78] (rare)
Delirium tremens[79][80][81]

 

[monstanoodle]

Aye it's not fun

 

[tekkeN]

which may result in death - mine were apparently 'level 5' seizures my pupils were fully dilated even with a torch right in my eye

kind of funny story: the first one I had was while I was walking into uni, and they were filming some sort of drama on the long road alongside the park with a fake ambulance.. me an my pal had just walked past the ambulance when I collapsed, luckily he caught me but because he was holding me from the ground he couldn't reach his phone so was yelling at other students 'call 999 get a fuckin ambulance etc' and they were just laughing thinking he was making a joke

first thing I remember is being driven to the hospital surrounded by paramedics, was a right piss take as that was the first time I had tried to go into uni (or work) for like 6 weeks