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up all night said:
However from what I've seen, those same people come into Social and post threads that are either,
a) about themselves and their own little cliques that few of us here care about
or
b) how annoying and elitist people from Aus Social are

Please tell me exactly why we should care.
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Word.

You hit the nail on the head.
 
zephyr said:
if you really really dont give a shit then dont post you opinion here. Kind of like how I couldnt give a fuck about neighbours so I dont bother even opening that thread. :)
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That's exactly what we're all saying.

If the American's don't like anything Aus Social stands for, then they don't need to bother opening the forum ;).
 
zephyr said:
^

From a couple of posts in this thread (BB and Dopelganger) one issue that should be addressed by the mods is the closing of threads when they are obviously attracting interest and participation. I cant answer than one, only they can.
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Well? I dont think its too much to ask for an answer to a simple question. Maybe itll get answered in next years "bitch about Aus Social" episode.
 
zephyr said:
Actually, this is already an improvement IMO. Discussion about ANYTHING! New ideas, new topics, just MORE exchange of ideas.
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Nobody is stopping you from starting interesting threads.
 
zephyr said:
Well? I dont think its too much to ask for an answer to a simple question. Maybe itll get answered in next years "bitch about Aus Social" episode.
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actually zephyr, it's not really the case of a simple answer or even a simple question.

this thread is for exactly this purpose - to bring issues like that to our attention so that we can gauge the feeling of the forum, consider them and decide on courses of action appropriately. :)

none of the mod's (i think ;)) professes to be perfect, and we certainly aren't trying to run the forum in auschwitz mode - hence why i started this thread, so that we can get feedback on our decisions.
 
Katmeow's decision to take down her bewbie pic before I got the chance to see it really pissed me off :\ ;)
 
Well, in that case I would respectfully like to gauge people's opinions about these threads (which were closed)
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=213254&highlight=america
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=232291

Now, don't be assholes about it either, if you don't have any particular wish to post in these threads that's fine, but obviously since they reached three pages each enough people were reading them and wanting to post in them.

They're meant as light-hearted, humourous threads people. And when you have so many threads about what made you smile today, frown today, what happened on neighbours today then I think these threads are just as valid in the context of a social forum.

:)
 
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up all night said:
There are other origin specific forums too which seem to be slipping under the radar and I think that's mainly because they just don't get enough traffic to be self-sufficient. There are so many Australians on BL and so we can therefore just chat amongst ourselves, about issues that interest us, away from the cliques in the Lounge which are far more dominating than anything you'd find in Aus Social.
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You probably can't call me an active contributor (politically/socially) as of late, but I just want to expand on this point.

I think its a fairly valid thing to say, given that I've got a first hand look at the traffic statistics for Bluelight I can support this perspective with not just an opinion, but black and white numbers.

Australian's have a large presence and that voice can be heard pretty loud and clear. Other countries outside of the US don't have such a large presence and as such don't have such a large clique as do the Australians.

In essence I'm just agreeing that there is definatley a place for Australian --> Australian communication, infact its almost neccessary to ensure that there is substantial discussion upkept and Aussies don't feel alienated from the rest of the board.

But there shouldn't be a sense of elitism, just like The Lounge. Relax, chat, have fun and keep the topics interesting. If you don't fit it shouldn't be because of some inside political problem or opinion from other members.

If you're a dickhead, you'll be exposed as one, but we all knew that :)
 
^ seconded. i pmed you my POV on the 2 beatlebot, but as you asked the question publicly, i'll publicly air my 2c :)

the first thread is to me a valid thread, but the point why it was closed is that towards the end it degenerated into an "aussie bashing" thread with no substance.

the second is lounge material straight up. no-one is claiming that there are not humourous elements (despite the fact it's not my cup of tea) but as many people have tried to explain in this thread, we are not intended to be a carbon copy of the lounge - and i think it's fairly obvious why that thread would belong there and not here.
 
Well we could be almost label this forums content with a vision to have some sort of intellectual substance or interest where as the Lounge its a matter of 'anything goes'. Not to say The Lounge is full of shit :)

Would a thread with more Australian contribution in The Lounge warrant being moved to Aus Social and vice versa? Is this already happening? Just curious.
 
Beatlebot said:
Well, in that case I would respectfully like to gauge people's opinions about these threads (which were closed)

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthrea...hlight=america
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=232291

Now, don't be assholes about it either, if you don't have any particular wish to post in these threads that's fine, but obviously since they reached three pages each enough people were reading them and wanting to post in them.

They're meant as light-hearted, humourous threads people. And when you have so many threads about what made you smile today, frown today, what happened on neighbours today then I think these threads are just as valid in the context of a social forum.

:)
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If you don't understand why that second thread was closed it's not going to be much use trying to explain it to you. Threads with stupid topics like that made by Australians get closed all the time too. Take some time to scroll through the back pages of Aus. Social if you don't believe me.

It's quite simple: this is not The Lounge - topics are expected to be above a certain par, if they're not they get closed. The original post in that that thread was not designed to promote discussion at all. It was a stupid statement that is worthy of a three year old learning how to use words. It's not rocket science - read the guidelines.

If that calibre of conversation is all you're interested in, why not stay in The Lounge? Why do you care if Aus. Social is different? Where exactly the fuck are you arguing from?

Here's what is not acceptable in this forum:

* Any form of drug dealing or soliciting
* Source requests for anything illegal (yes this includes pirated software and mp3’s)
* Any mention of possession of illicit substances or future drug use
* Personal attacks or flame wars
* Racism, sexism, homophobia or any other sort of discrimination
* Topics that are clearly going to be found offensive
* Topics below a certain level of maturity - an example of this is the Mu(x)ke vs Piglet thread.
* Topics that are considered to be below a certain level of usefulness.
* Annoying or malicious links (i.e. - a link that leads to never-ending window pop-ups) are not permitted and will be deleted.
* Threads that are created to blatantly plug a product/site - this forum is not an advertising resource.
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BB:

An honest opinion?

Well I can only see the second one... but I thought it was a total waste of bandwidth.

If that stuff flies in The Lounge, then cool... it belongs there. A pointless thread which generates zero discussion and one word answers is exactly the kind of thing that a lot of people are opposed to in AusSoc.

The great thing about the smile/frown/neighbours threads are that at the very least you get people tying out thoughtful answers and people replying to them.

A handful of people writing nonsensical statements is like the thread equivelent of junkfood.

Sure its filling, but its full of crap.

Just my opinion.

BTW this thread is an ace example, like people are saying, of a good AusSoc thread. Don't judge the entire forum on the crap like "One Word - how do you feel today?" stuff.



EDIT - I agree entirely with lostpunk above.
 
lostpunk, that fine, and I'd be inclined to leave it at that, but what about all those how you feel today type threads? You know, the ones that just keep on getting recycled? Please explain how they are more 'useful'.

Look if you're happy with them that's fine. I have the whole rest of the board to post in, but I think that by shutting out new types of threads and closing any thread that gets a bit hectic, you are missing out on alot of fun debate.
 
Shnouzerpuff said:
BTW this thread is an ace example, like people are saying, of a good AusSoc thread. Don't judge the entire forum on the crap like "One Word - how do you feel today?" stuff.
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AND SNAP!

Sometimes we actually want genuine replies to the questions we ask... :)
 
The point is that those threads while, I'll agree can be somewhat boring promote general day to day discussion. And there is an express purpose and intent to promote discussion in each of those threads' opening posts.

For example:

* Aus. Social is gay! - Thread designed with no other purpose than to offend and get people's backs up.

* Aus. Social virtual suggestion box: Thread designed to promote discussion about the shortcomings of Aus. Social and what can be done to improve it.

If you take a look at this thread you will see that there is still room for light-hearted few word posts if that is all you feel like contributing.
 
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