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Experiences Atheism/afterlife and science bullshittery

notsmokeymcpot42088 said:
I am glad someone made a thread about it that got traction though! Thank you OP!
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Yes, it''s great to have some one express their beliefs here. That's what this sub forum is for. Most people either don't care or don't care to discuss what they believe as society "progresses". People just don't want to, I guess.

All we ask is that folks respect the beliefs of other people while posting ;)
 
I think the idea of an angry God requiring blood to pay a legal debt is like modern baal worship. It’s a pagan inversion of the Gospel where a deity must be appeased to stop him from killing us. We do need Jesus and the procces of salvation. We all sin and sin leads to death. Sin left us owing a debt that we could never pay. Jesus paid that debt in full when He died on the cross. Theres a lot more happened there then you rarely see mentioned…the ark of the covenant, the mercy seat, etc. But a lot of people use religion as a weapon. It’s not about religion. But if you view God as a legalistic judge your brain enters a state of survival that actually prevents healing. To find true restoration I think it requires understanding that spirituality isn’t about following rules to stay out of trouble. It’s more about aligning our biology with the design laws of reality.

I believe that God operates through design laws rather than arbitrary rules. Our mental health can be directly shaped by our perception of God. I think that a fear based "penal" view of divinity causes neurological decoherence and spiritual bondage. Encoding truth and love physically restructures the brain’s neurons and microtubules. I think that plays a part in how we harmonize with the Holy Spirit. I think the healing that comes after the process of salvation requires surrendering a spirit of fear to be reborn with a spirit of trust.

But ultimately our free will is the only factor God cannot override. This places the responsibility on us to choose either the healing journey of sanctification or self protective distortions.

I love analogies. I see each of us like a computer model.

The body is the hardware. The soul is the software. The spirit is the electricity that powers the system. When you remove the electricity(death) there’s a cloud backup of our individuality created…hence the lambs book of life.

But these records aren't a list of your "deeds" because love keeps no record of wrongs. It’s a backup of your character.

This is why transformation is a present necessity. If you back up software that is riddled with a virus you back up the virus. If we die with a character defined by the virus of fear, selfishness and distrust then that’s what remains on the heavenly servers. The cleansing (sanctification) must happen here…in the hardware of our lives…before the final download into our new upgraded bodies at the resurrection.
 
notsmokeymcpot42088 said:
Quantum entanglement sounds likely by math

So does simulation theory....and doesnt quantum entanglement fall under block theory?

Excuse me I am a laymens and need to read this thread through thoroughly
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they potentially could all be parts of the same underlying theory, entanglement and block theory being the "real" physics of the universe, with simulation just being something that emulates the "real" world so well that whatever is being studied can't tell the difference.
notsmokeymcpot42088 said:
---- I am glad someone made a thread about it that got traction though! Thank you OP!
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Cheshire_Kat said:
All we ask is that folks respect the beliefs of other people while posting ;)
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amen to that
Kellsee said:
But a lot of people use religion as a weapon
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sadly very true, i listened to podcast about Joan of Arc yesterday, she was used by the royal families of europe just in this way, very sad story
 
Okay, sorry if I am backtracking a bit --- as far as science based answers go is there not "Traditional" physics (lack of jargon) which is 11 dimensions and than 'quantum' physics which assume 12 dimensions?

No that isnt quite right 11 dimensions assumes deterministic (aka a certain answer dictated by math?) Quantum works on probabilities? (That is the quick thing google is giving me at least)

I know when you plan a tactical type situation you plan it in probabilities. 90% chance this guy has coffee here like he does every day, 70% chance we see no new faces on the way in --- too many improbababilities pop up you abort or switch to an alternative plan if it is the only possible window of 'execution' (meaning the plan not actually executing anyone)

I like quantum at any rate. Assuming there is a fixed answer we know sounds arrogant -- especially when there are alot of things that dont fit with 'deterministic' physics. (Says the catholic)

Faith is a totally different thing. I can admit the probability of christian god is low to none and still believe it. Someone puts everything on 56 red or w/e with no damn reason.....religiously we those ppl.
 
It is possible that alien beings and "demons" both exist separately. In fact, it is entirely possible that demons disguise themselves as alien beings in order to take advantage of our ignorance. If they are alien beings then they have traveled literally astronomical distances to reach us as the nearest star is light years away. We have to consider what are the odds for any conclusions ...
 
Cheshire_Kat said:
It is possible that both alien beings and "demons" both exist separately. In fact, it is entirely possible that demons disguise themselves as alien beings in order to take advantage of our ignorance. If they are alien beings then they have traveled literally astronomical distances to reach us as the nearest star is light years away.
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Yeap that’s what I believe

I do think it all comes down to quantum physics but that’s stuff is so confusing for me lol
 
^That would be my belief is that they exist separately.

Demons are known to disguise themselves as anything that may take advantage of our ignorance or other flaws -- so that pans also

Aliens could be "God" and visitors "demons" as everything is kind of open to interpretation. Hell could be the vacuum of space? Heaven a holodeck of sorts? (Chesire, set me straight here with some passages that say that isnt so)
 
notsmokeymcpot42088 said:
Aliens? I see people counting them as demons lately ... doubt they are invested in our religions if they aren't the source of them
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Ikr lol That’d be like Christian aliens lol

I think it’s possible that both exists. I know demons do.

And I’ve still never seen my ex and satan in the same room so lol
 
Demons can’t manifest in the physical realm without the help of a human. But there’s a lot of ways we can come into an agreement with them without realizing it.

I think VR is opening portals. I know that sounds crazy but I’ve seen some shit lol

I worry more about the Nephilum than I do demons. I think some people are Nephilum hosts
 
^Lmao im with you. My ex legit said she sold her soul and there was a handprint on her wall that I could not fucking paint over. *True story* I presume there to be a logical reason I am missing....

Shit still happened though. Everyone's bitch/dick ex is a demon we can all agree on that

Kellsee said:
Demons can’t manifest in the physical realm without the help of a human.

I worry more about the Nephilum than I do demons. I think some people are Nephilum hosts
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Wait I thoughtt Nephilum were giants that were half human half angel (bible wise at least) --- do they get to possess people?
 
aliens invested in human religion seems far fetched still -- any of the religions. Again unless they were somehow the source of said religion.

in the ET believing community they have been known to say things like "I am god" "You pray to me" etc (of course this could be demons playing as aliens, nothing is outta bounds!)

@Kellsee whats this about VR now? My ma is really into the ghost shows so I am somewhat familiar with the equipment (Which is largely shady)

good grade EVP's I give a pass -- but the ones you can't make out the words clearly. Anyone that records audio knows that is just a thing when your mic levels are too high, we call it 'interference' but dont look for words in it lol....

Now if the words are clear AF, again different thing.
 
Cheshire_Kat said:
Actually Christians, Jews and Muslims all believe in demons and angels.
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Yeah that’s true. I was just being funny lol or trying to be anyways lol

My addiction to opiates has been spiritual warfare for me. It’s like the African proverb of the tale of the two wolves fighting inside of you. I think we all have different variations of that. But it’s been so hard here lately. I’ve had everything come up against me. It’s hard to understand why God won’t just remove this thorn from my side. But I think it’s all been for a reason. I’m so sick of how crooked the government is about addiction. I’ve seen stigma do way more harm than any drug. I’ve been at war with my whole town. They keep trying to shut me up. But the hardest thing I’ve ever tried to do is shut up lol this is so personal to me. I’ve seen way worse out of politicians then I have any drug addict
 
notsmokeymcpot42088 said:
aliens invested in human religion seems far fetched still -- any of the religions. Again unless they were somehow the source of said religion.

in the ET believing community they have been known to say things like "I am god" "You pray to me" etc (of course this could be demons playing as aliens, nothing is outta bounds!)

@Kellsee whats this about VR now? My ma is really into the ghost shows so I am somewhat familiar with the equipment (Which is largely shady)

good grade EVP's I give a pass -- but the ones you can't make out the words clearly. Anyone that records audio knows that is just a thing when your mic levels are too high, we call it 'interference' but dont look for words in it lol....

Now if the words are clear AF, again different thing.
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I’m talking about VR as in virtual reality…like Meta Quest.

Is that what you’re talking about?

I think yall would like this guy. This is interesting stuff

 
Yea I meant Virtual Reality -- but what is it picking up? Lol the courtney cox show that recently aired about ghosts had a VR theme I do believe where the little kid could only see the w/e through VR goggles.

There is a bit of interesting tech sorrounding paranormal chasers -- most of it kind of bullshittery
 
notsmokeymcpot42088 said:
^Lmao im with you. My ex legit said she sold her soul and there was a handprint on her wall that I could not fucking paint over. *True story* I presume there to be a logical reason I am missing....

Shit still happened though. Everyone's bitch/dick ex is a demon we can all agree on that



Wait I thoughtt Nephilum were giants that were half human half angel (bible wise at least) --- do they get to possess people?
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You are correct. Nephilum are the hybrid offspring from when the fallen angels mated with women.

They are hugeeee lol

When I think about Gods wrath I think about those sick evil twisted mofos doing androchrome harvesting. I’m not spelling that right but I’m not looking it up. I don’t want it in my browser to that extent. But thats the most evil thing I’ve ever heard of. That’s who deserves Gods wrath. Takes my breath away to think about that
 
This is really happening.

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The reason I know this is because I’ve worked on some of these cases. I’ve not been able to share much truth about myself up until recently. I’ve never been able to share really up to date pics. And I know for anyone that’s paid much attention stuff hasn’t always added up right about me. But it’s because I’ve gotten sloppy at times and gotten too personal and then had to throw people off. But I also have a degree in forensic psychology. There’s reasons I’m so passionate about certain stuff. I’ve got haters on here now trying to make me look like a ho. Idc. I know I’m frisky lol. But I do really care about people and mostly the underdog. But more than anything I care about what’s being done to our children.

Plus the drug epidemic was pushed on us. Our gov*rnme*t is crooked af.
 
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