Arrests after teenage M-CAT users die in Lincolnshire (UK)

Has there actually been a case of anybody dying taking only mephedrone yet?

So these two guys have died at the same time, taking the same substances, over the same evening, whereas the last mephedrone death case was a while ago. None of the other (tens of?) thousands of people died taking it at the weekend.

It sad these boys have died but its worse the way the media uses it.
 
monstanoodle said:
Oh, and as for one of the guy's parents saying he didn't use drugs... Well, he obviously did :\ Parents are not always fully aware of their kids lives. They like to think they are, but 7/10's of the time (or more) don't have a clue what they get up to.
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Have to agree with this... and, again, if these lads did indeed have access to methadone, then that doesn't make them sound like innocent drug novices...
 
7zark7 said:
Have to agree with this... and, again, if these lads did indeed have access to methadone, then that doesn't make them sound like innocent drug novices...
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Yea man exactly. If you know about Methadone then you know about a great deal of other substances :\
 
phatass said:
they mixed booze and "illegal methadone" so they probably didn't have much of a tolerance, i wouldn't be surprised if it was the booze and methadone that killed them... mephedrone is once again being used as a scapegoat.

Allthough i do agree that it is dangerous up to a certain point... if we had MDMA at reasonable prices people wouldn't be buying mephedrone
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Agreed.

It's bullshit the amount that the media can get away with.
 
you cant blame the chemical the blame goes to the miss-informed kid who prob. did little research on the drug before consuming large amounts. we dont ban "schedule 1 in us" amphetamines so we can give them to little kids for add. the dangers of these two seem simaler.
 
jblz said:
Has there actually been a case of anybody dying taking only mephedrone yet?

So these two guys have died at the same time, taking the same substances, over the same evening, whereas the last mephedrone death case was a while ago. None of the other (tens of?) thousands of people died taking it at the weekend.

It sad these boys have died but its worse the way the media uses it.
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The death of a girl in Sweden was attributed to mephedrone with no mention of other drugs: http://www.thelocal.se/16366/20081215/

You're right, it would be a startling (and tragic) coincidence for two mephedrone deaths to occur simultaneously like this. I think a mix up between methadone and mephedrone is at play somewhere along the line. Maybe the police or the media, or the boys themselves got the two drugs confused.

It would help if we had some idea of how long ago the drugs were taken - methadone can stay in the system for several days at least. Of course, we will have to wait for the coroner's verdict to know for sure, but by then the media may have dropped the story.
 
PredatorVision said:
What's even funnier is the reason why I didn't buy any - £27 for a gram 8o im not an idiot sir :p I imagine his clientel that are spending that much on a gram must refer to it as Meow Meow in a cat voice too.
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But maybe this is the solution, let the goverment set a minimum price for the stuff - at maybe 50 quid per gram (leave 10 quid for the retailer, and 35 for harm reduction efforts). People would use less and wouldn't but 10gs at once. If anyone sells it on the black market - let the IRS equivalent take care of it (they know their stuff).

love, m
 
mimac said:
But maybe this is the solution, let the goverment set a minimum price for the stuff - at maybe 50 quid per gram (leave 10 quid for the retailer, and 35 for harm reduction efforts). People would use less and wouldn't but 10gs at once. If anyone sells it on the black market - let the IRS equivalent take care of it (they know their stuff).

love, m
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yeah I agree with you on that, I'd much rather see it regulated.. though trying to sell it at £27 when you can get it at less than £10 is obsurd. I hate mephedrone all the same, it's literally a panic attack in powder form.
 
Don't blame a drug, blame the fuckwit users who don't research anything and expect to be fine after caining the shit out of a range of drugs
 
darobian said:
The death of a girl in Sweden was attributed to mephedrone with no mention of other drugs: http://www.thelocal.se/16366/20081215/
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Umm... even in that report it says that the girl had taken mephedrone as well as cannabis. Plus, as rwjh1979 says, the rumour was that she had also taken cocaine.

You're right, it would be a startling (and tragic) coincidence for two mephedrone deaths to occur simultaneously like this. I think a mix up between methadone and mephedrone is at play somewhere along the line. Maybe the police or the media, or the boys themselves got the two drugs confused.
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Yes, it does seem massively coincidental that two deaths could result in the same place at the same time when previously there had been no (or very few) deaths attributed to mephedrone....
 
Wrongun said:
the BBC have a have your say page on their website which seems to be full of uninformed idiots voicing their opinions, with a few good answers inbetween.
Have your say peeps .
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2010/03/should_legal_drug_mephedrone_b.html
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To be fair, there are a (slightly surprising) number of sensible responses on that page. If you want misinformed, you should see the comments section on The Daily Mail site. (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1258384/Schools-mephedrone-Meow-Meow-ban-teenage-deaths.html)

To be honest, I find it frightening that these sort of people, who are so simple and gullible to the media, are allowed to vote. :)
 
Mephedrone death suspects released on police bail

[size=+1]Drug death suspects freed on bail[/size]
Three people arrested in connection with the deaths of two teenagers who died after taking the legal drug mephedrone have been released on bail.

Humberside Police said two men, aged 26 and 20, and a 17-year-old boy had been released pending further inquiries. A 26-year-old man remains in custody.

The arrests were made after Louis Wainwright, 18, and Nicholas Smith, 19, died in Scunthorpe on Monday.

Post mortems tests have been held and police are awaiting toxicology results.

Mr Smith's parents have called on the government to ban the drug.

Tony and Elaine Smith said they believed their son would not have taken mephedrone if it had been illegal.

Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/england/humber/8574299.stm

Published: 2010/03/18 13:00:06 GMT

© BBC MMX
 
darobian said:
The death of a girl in Sweden was attributed to mephedrone with no mention of other drugs: http://www.thelocal.se/16366/20081215/

You're right, it would be a startling (and tragic) coincidence for two mephedrone deaths to occur simultaneously like this. I think a mix up between methadone and mephedrone is at play somewhere along the line. Maybe the police or the media, or the boys themselves got the two drugs confused.

It would help if we had some idea of how long ago the drugs were taken - methadone can stay in the system for several days at least. Of course, we will have to wait for the coroner's verdict to know for sure, but by then the media may have dropped the story.
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They used to use methadone for the come downs apparently..

It's obvious methadone was the killer.
 
Regarding the four arrests mentioned in the article(s) posted above, does anybody know what these people were actually arrested for?
 
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