Arrests after teenage M-CAT users die in Lincolnshire
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Arrests after teenage M-CAT users die in Lincolnshire (UK)
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Bluelighter
They both must have taken alot or.. what seems more likely in my opinion seeing as not only they died but other people who'd (I presume) had the same stuff had to go to hospital it was not mephedrone, bk-pmma maybe?
tamjam
Greenlighter
i have been watching a few people slowly kill themselves on this shit.How can anyone say its not dangerous? do you know the long term damage? its a self centered horrible substance. i have used it at birthdays etc but only a tiny amount and enjoyed it but not a few days later. never again, i see teenagers once healthy and happy turning into empty shells, god knows what its doing to their insides. and vital organs. yuk!!!!
tamjam
Greenlighter
i have tried everything over the years and always enjoyed recreational use but havnt come across something this nasty, not to mention the me me me and I I I 'listen to me i have a better story' bullshit . only time will tell, in the meantime kids who wouldnt be able to experiment with other stuff (price and availability) are using this on a regular basis. there will be more deaths from long term users and kids younger than ever, non drug users etc. (who think its ok cause its legal its a plant food its ok) its not ok.
. down here its called sherbal, herb, so that makes it ok. NOT!!!Review pledged over use of legal high drug mephedrone
[size=+1]Review pledged over use of legal high drug mephedrone[/size]
The legality of the drug mephedrone will be examined "very speedily, very carefully" following the deaths of two teenagers, Lord Mandelson has said.
The business secretary said the government would take "any action that is justified to deal with this".
Louis Wainwright, 18, and Nicholas Smith, 19, died in Scunthorpe on Monday after taking the drug.
The Home Office said it will receive advice from the Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs (ACMD) on 29 March.
The National Association of Head Teachers (NAHT) says a ban on the substance should be considered.
Lord Mandelson said the government would "take any action that is needed... to avert such tragic consequences occurring in the future".
He also admitted that he had never previously heard of the drug.
According to BBC home affairs correspondent Danny Shaw, a member of the Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs has said he expects the ACMD to make a decision on whether mephedrone should be banned at its next meeting in March.
The member, speaking anonymously, said he would be "very surprised" if the ACMD did not make its decision at that point.
The ACMD will then write a full report, containing its recommendations, and present it to the Home Secretary, Alan Johnson.
It is understood the ACMD had already held a full day's meeting looking at the available evidence and research on mephedrone. This included a presentation from the Guy's and St Thomas's Toxicology Service and research from drug users describing their experiences.
The ACMD member said there was also "some understanding" of the science behind mephedrone, though it was "far from perfect".
A meeting of the ACMD's technical committee, which is looking at mephedrone, is scheduled for next week.
Mephedrone is known by various names, including "M-Cat", "MC", "mieow", "meow", "4MMC" or simply plant fertiliser.
It is usually a white or yellowish powder, which is snorted, but can also be obtained in pills and capsules. It is marketed as plant food.
Police made three arrests following the death of the two teenagers.
NAHT general secretary Mick Brookes told the BBC the use of the drug had become more widespread.
He said: "This drug clearly has the same inherent dangers as any Class A drug and I think serious consideration should be given to banning it.
"The problem with that is that you then criminalise the people who take it, so we need to think very carefully about what we do, but act with some speed."
Some heads say the drug should be made illegal immediately - even if it risks some children getting a criminal record.
Schools have become increasingly worried that because the drug is legal, children as young as 12 are trying it.
BBC science correspondent Tom Feilden said the ACMD was asked by the Home Office last year to examine the use of legal highs such as mephedrone.
A sub-committee was set up to do just that, and was due to report back this month, our correspondent added.
Prof Nutt was sacked as the government's chief drugs adviser last October. He was dismissed after publicly disagreeing with the government's decision to re-classify cannabis as a Class B drug and not to downgrade ecstasy.
Five ACMD members then resigned in the row that followed Prof Nutt's departure.
Websites selling the drug have told their customers it is a case of "when" not "if" mephedrone will be banned.
The two teenagers who died were found collapsed at their homes after a night out in Scunthorpe.
Humberside Police said the drug appeared to have contributed to their deaths. They had been out drinking in the hours before they died.
Two men, aged 26 and 20, and a 17-year-old boy have been arrested in connection with the incident.
Post-mortem examinations are being carried out.
Mephedrone has become popular on the UK club scene in recent months.
Its side effects are said to include psychosis, palpitations, burning throat, nosebleeds and insomnia.
Link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8571935.stm
[size=+1]Review pledged over use of legal high drug mephedrone[/size]
The legality of the drug mephedrone will be examined "very speedily, very carefully" following the deaths of two teenagers, Lord Mandelson has said.
The business secretary said the government would take "any action that is justified to deal with this".
Louis Wainwright, 18, and Nicholas Smith, 19, died in Scunthorpe on Monday after taking the drug.
The Home Office said it will receive advice from the Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs (ACMD) on 29 March.
The National Association of Head Teachers (NAHT) says a ban on the substance should be considered.
Lord Mandelson said the government would "take any action that is needed... to avert such tragic consequences occurring in the future".
He also admitted that he had never previously heard of the drug.
According to BBC home affairs correspondent Danny Shaw, a member of the Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs has said he expects the ACMD to make a decision on whether mephedrone should be banned at its next meeting in March.
The member, speaking anonymously, said he would be "very surprised" if the ACMD did not make its decision at that point.
The ACMD will then write a full report, containing its recommendations, and present it to the Home Secretary, Alan Johnson.
It is understood the ACMD had already held a full day's meeting looking at the available evidence and research on mephedrone. This included a presentation from the Guy's and St Thomas's Toxicology Service and research from drug users describing their experiences.
The ACMD member said there was also "some understanding" of the science behind mephedrone, though it was "far from perfect".
A meeting of the ACMD's technical committee, which is looking at mephedrone, is scheduled for next week.
Mephedrone is known by various names, including "M-Cat", "MC", "mieow", "meow", "4MMC" or simply plant fertiliser.
It is usually a white or yellowish powder, which is snorted, but can also be obtained in pills and capsules. It is marketed as plant food.
Police made three arrests following the death of the two teenagers.
NAHT general secretary Mick Brookes told the BBC the use of the drug had become more widespread.
He said: "This drug clearly has the same inherent dangers as any Class A drug and I think serious consideration should be given to banning it.
"The problem with that is that you then criminalise the people who take it, so we need to think very carefully about what we do, but act with some speed."
Some heads say the drug should be made illegal immediately - even if it risks some children getting a criminal record.
Schools have become increasingly worried that because the drug is legal, children as young as 12 are trying it.
BBC science correspondent Tom Feilden said the ACMD was asked by the Home Office last year to examine the use of legal highs such as mephedrone.
A sub-committee was set up to do just that, and was due to report back this month, our correspondent added.
Prof Nutt was sacked as the government's chief drugs adviser last October. He was dismissed after publicly disagreeing with the government's decision to re-classify cannabis as a Class B drug and not to downgrade ecstasy.
Five ACMD members then resigned in the row that followed Prof Nutt's departure.
Websites selling the drug have told their customers it is a case of "when" not "if" mephedrone will be banned.
The two teenagers who died were found collapsed at their homes after a night out in Scunthorpe.
Humberside Police said the drug appeared to have contributed to their deaths. They had been out drinking in the hours before they died.
Two men, aged 26 and 20, and a 17-year-old boy have been arrested in connection with the incident.
Post-mortem examinations are being carried out.
Mephedrone has become popular on the UK club scene in recent months.
Its side effects are said to include psychosis, palpitations, burning throat, nosebleeds and insomnia.
Link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8571935.stm
tamjam
Greenlighter
and some twat on itv said we shouldnt ban it ,just educate young children of the dangers.mmmmmmm well then lets just legalise all drugs and be done with it cause as we know our kids and young people listen to us all the time.8) , we will just tell them not to. They can ban it and should. thus making it harder to get hold of. hypocrites the lot of them!!
tamjam
Greenlighter
ggrrrrr they need to get onto the streets and see what its doing , half of them havnt even heard of it.
[size=+1]Community in mourning after teen deaths[/size]
A DEVASTATED community has paid tribute to two tragic teenagers who died after using a powerful plant fertiliser as a drug.
Louis Wainwright, 18, of Low Burgage, Winteringham, and Nick Smith, 19, from Winterton, died within hours of each other on Monday.
Officers think they may have had a lethal cocktail of drugs and alcohol on a night out in Scunthorpe on Sunday.
Humberside Police believe they could have taken a legal drug called Mephedrone, also known as M-CAT, as well as illegal methadone.
The tragic deaths have stunned those who knew them, with their Facebook profiles and an online condolence book flooded with loving tributes.
Both were former pupils of Winterton Comprehensive School, headteacher John Fitzgerald said the impact of the news had been enormous.
He said: "Everyone at the school who knew Louis and Nick is deeply saddened by the news.
"We all liked both boys for their energy, liveliness and cheerfulness.
"Many of our current older pupils were still close to the boys and they have been devastated by the news.
"Our thoughts are with the families and friends of both Louis and Nick."
While Louis went on to get a job with local firm Grayton Engineering in Scunthorpe, which declined to comment, Nick spent a year at John Leggott College.
Principal Nic Dakin said: "We were saddened to receive the news of this terrible event.
"Nick was a student here for a year and during that time he got on well with his fellow students and was well liked by those who taught him."
Louis' body was discovered at noon on Monday in his home, and Nick's body was discovered at a property on Redbourne Street, Scunthorpe, at around 4.20pm on Monday, police said.
Link: http://www.thisisscunthorpe.co.uk/n...en-deaths/article-1918013-detail/article.html
A DEVASTATED community has paid tribute to two tragic teenagers who died after using a powerful plant fertiliser as a drug.
Louis Wainwright, 18, of Low Burgage, Winteringham, and Nick Smith, 19, from Winterton, died within hours of each other on Monday.
Officers think they may have had a lethal cocktail of drugs and alcohol on a night out in Scunthorpe on Sunday.
Humberside Police believe they could have taken a legal drug called Mephedrone, also known as M-CAT, as well as illegal methadone.
The tragic deaths have stunned those who knew them, with their Facebook profiles and an online condolence book flooded with loving tributes.
Both were former pupils of Winterton Comprehensive School, headteacher John Fitzgerald said the impact of the news had been enormous.
He said: "Everyone at the school who knew Louis and Nick is deeply saddened by the news.
"We all liked both boys for their energy, liveliness and cheerfulness.
"Many of our current older pupils were still close to the boys and they have been devastated by the news.
"Our thoughts are with the families and friends of both Louis and Nick."
While Louis went on to get a job with local firm Grayton Engineering in Scunthorpe, which declined to comment, Nick spent a year at John Leggott College.
Principal Nic Dakin said: "We were saddened to receive the news of this terrible event.
"Nick was a student here for a year and during that time he got on well with his fellow students and was well liked by those who taught him."
Louis' body was discovered at noon on Monday in his home, and Nick's body was discovered at a property on Redbourne Street, Scunthorpe, at around 4.20pm on Monday, police said.
Link: http://www.thisisscunthorpe.co.uk/n...en-deaths/article-1918013-detail/article.html
Curious and curiouser... it now seems that these lads went out drinking, had some Mephedrone and then took METHADONE afterwards! As far as I am aware, just mixing alcohol and methadone is a recipe for disaster. Bizarrely, meph might be the 'innocent' party in all this...
Bob Loblaw
Bluelight Crew
Yeauh dawg. Through in the extra "M" 'cos methcathinone is oh sooo common these days 8).
^NO. It should not be.
Word.
tamjam
Greenlighter
not the innocent party at all what a silly statement. Have you seen regular users of this firsthand?
Bob Loblaw
Bluelight Crew
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Sega420
Bluelighter
£10 a gram delivered to your door and its 10x stronger than cocaine.
insanity...
whats more is most of the people taking this are idiots who dont research shit about the substances they put in their bodies.
if they die, its their own stupid fucking fault.
what a waste...
insanity...
whats more is most of the people taking this are idiots who dont research shit about the substances they put in their bodies.
if they die, its their own stupid fucking fault.
what a waste...
Yes, plenty... and they are all the same, both physically and mentally, as they were before taking it - as far as I can tell! Granted, we don't know the possible long term side effects, but the near-hysteria and misinformation flying around at the moment is doing nobody any good at all.
BTW, I put the word innocent in inverted commas. This is to show that the word is not being used in its current commonly accepted sense. In other words, don't take it it so literally...
My point is, that, if the methadone story is true, then the deaths were more than likely caused by the combination of two powerful depressant drugs. The mephedrone use may just be as incidental.
If you want to rant about how evil mephedrone is, then there are plenty of other, more relevant threads on Bluelight you should have a look at. I'd like to try and keep this thread on topic as I foresee some follow-up articles being posted in the next few days.
