Anyone smoke OC?

[McShroom]

Umm...he spent 700 bucks and me and him smoked together. The high is short lived (about an hour 1/2, 2 hours max) so repeated dosing does occur. If you want, you can call the rehab I went to. Ask them if they admit patients for smoking oxycontin, and ask if they have alot. I guarantee they will back up my story. And Black Tar isn't in the merck index, but Heroin HCl is.

ocpheend, YES! Beans are what the slang is for OC out here. "Green Beans" are what they are commonly called (I know beans mean ecstacy in the rest of the country, we call ecstacy "bombs" or "bezzles") But beanfiend is a term that goes around kind of like crackhead..."You fucking beanfiend" when people are begging for hits and stuff.

 

[Olyn]

I wonder if I cut my arm and tried to pack OC into the cut if it would be cool and get me high.

Hahahaha!

Well, apparently alot of people think smoking OC gets you high. Whatever. But does anyone think it will get you any higher than just eating/railing them? Other than the "Lol I'm so cool because I smoke things" idiots out there.

 

[dboyfresh]

Im no fuckin troll sorry to burst your bubble..

I wish that this were just something made up but it really isnt. Ive been reading stuff at this forum for a while now as I already am on wayy to many boards, but when I saw this I had to say something.

Where did you read about anyone smoking it on top of weed?? the point is not to get direct flame.

And rave23 melted the pill into a liquid by consistently keeping a flame beneath it which would easily burn away most or all of the oxycodone.

Ive never injected anything so I dont have that to compare but smoking seems to be just as effective as snorting them and it also produces a better rush. I used to only snort them til a friend showed me the smoking technique and I felt I was wasting anytime I railed any after that. I no longer do either.. oh and no the generic ones do not smoke as the the gel makes them not slide right.

heres just a few things to look at: from bluelight even!

or this:

read all the comments at the bottom

Oh and Ive spent near $700 on OC in one day, its really not that hard with the ridiculous prices around here.

 

[Mr Blonde]

Funny that dboyfresh and McShroom both appeared on Bluelight at the same time to back each other up on this smoking OC epidemic no one else has heard of...

And rave23 melted the pill into a liquid by consistently keeping a flame beneath it which would easily burn away most or all of the oxycodone.

Did you see in that other post how high the vaporizing point is for OC? You would need to keep the flame on it to produce vapors, and I'm betting that the burning point is pretty close to that vapor point as well. Even if you freebased it, that is a pretty high temperature required to vaporize OC (224F, 106C).

Haribo1 mentioned: acetic anhydride, better propanoic anhydride and better cinnamyl anhydride.

Are those chemicals legal? Where would you obtain them? Not looking for an address just a general term like pharmacy, or specialty chemical labs? THat type of thing is what I'd like to know.

As well Haribo1 said apply one of those to oxycodone....but what does that mean? You do it the same way you would do with making crack out of coke? I don't even know how to do that (crack out of coke) but every user of coke DOES know how to do so and one of my opiate/opioid dealers used to make crack out of coke on/in a spoon. With some heat I remember and some chemical (probably baking soda/or bakeing powder), he would do it.

Thanks in advance, I'd really like to know the answer to my question/questions from someone more knowledgeble in chemistry and in this field than I am.

Lol! I'm taking a leap here and assuming that if we can talk about freebasing cocaine, we can talk about freebasing oxycodone.

Acetic acid is found in vinegar. You know heroin? Well, that's morphine with two acetyl groups added on to it. Homebake heroin is usually made with vinegar to cook the morphine into heroin...so, if I were you, I'd look up how to isolate the acetic acid in vinegar and condense that into acetic anhydride. Then, I would try the crack cocaine method of freebasing (same steps, different chemical), but I'm not sure if that would work.

Then again, you seem to have very limited chemistry knowledge so I wouldn't be attempting it if I were you

 

[dboyfresh]

The vaporizing point for oxycodone hcl doesnt look to be that much higher than that of diamorphine hcl which you smoke in the same manner as oc.

Do you people even read half of the posts?? or just like skip through and pick shit out? Did you read a thing that OCpheend wrote? Its not just me and mcshroom talking about doing this..

You would need to keep flame on it to produce vapors?? excuse me?? Ive smoked it countless times and you dont have to do anything of the sort.

I think you are right about the melting point being close to the vap. point which is why if you dont keep the lighter a good distance away and the foil slanted you just melt the pill away and it bubbles into a liquid.

There is definitely something in particular about these pills that makes smoking them easy, possibly something to do with the extended release? The generics with the gelling extended release dont work to smoke..

 

[AntonioMontana]

Theodore Roosevelt, not all drug users are broke like you. Ive spent more in one day on OC than your mom paid for that trailer you live in. Stop using the internet from the public library and go smoke an OC. Youll feel much better....

Smoking beans is the way to go....high is shorter than snorting but more intense and kicks in right away. Also, I never tried OC any other way than smokingand it casuse worse WD than when im using tar.

OCs are for ballers only Teddy Roosevelt. Stick to that meth that you make in your trailer and smoke crack.

 

[AntonioMontana]

BTW generics, and oxycodone pills dont smoke. Only the OG purdue 40mg and 80mg are good to smoke.

 

[Mr Blonde]

Oy vey...why wouldn't generics be good to smoke? What reson can you give for that?

And I have read all the posts in this thread...including the one where someone predicted that eventually it was gonna be said that 'you have to smoke the purdues, dude!'

Heroin that is made for smoking (#3) is not your average heroin HCl. It has caffeine added to it to make it more suitable for smoking. Look it up, the vap. point has to be brought down for it to be smoked, otherwise your gonna waste your shit. Pure heroin HCl won't smoke so good; you need to work with it first.

OK, so including OCPheend that's three people who have heard of/partaken in this OC smoking. Just looking at the numbers involved in vap'ing the stuff, it seems highly improbable that it would work very well at all.

And I call troll on AntonioMontana. I bet you Teddy has more skill, talent and intellectual prowess in one of his curly pubic hairs then you will ever have in your whole life.

Troll somewhere else.

 

[McShroom]

OK. If you want some hardcore proof. The rehab center I went to can be found online at www.lakesidemilam.com. They're number is at the bottom of the page. Call them/email them and ask them if they admit people for smoking OxyContin. And also ask if its a big problem, they will tell you it is in these parts. Once again, I can't explain why you can't smoke the generics, it doesn't make sense to me either, b/c as was stated before Oxycodone=oxycodone=oxycodone. I think it has to do with the gelling agent.

 

[dboyfresh]

Dude, no one is trolling here.

Maybe they dont smoke for the same exact reason that you cant snort them?? The pills have different inactive fillers and a different extended release mechanism.

This doesnt work with any other oc pills or other opiates, its something about the binders/fillers/E.R that all work together in the same way the caffeine in #3 makes it smoke. and what about black tar?? that also hcl just like #3.

and what about fentanyl?? vaporizes at temps around 374f and people commonly smoke that on foil.

Sorry I am no chemist obviously but smoking this shit is for real, it may not be the best moa but it has its advantages over the others. It just depends on what you want out of it.

call troll if you want.. he may be. I know im not, and not all of us can be.

montana
Mcshroom
ocpheend

and from the previous smoking oxycontin thread:

ihateopiophobes
aleetman
Klowns
smokester
2oclockbeanfiend.2

not to mention the people in the link i posted to the article on badsamaritan.com thats 9 people.

 

[Lechium]

i find it funny how everyone one here that claims to get high off smoking oc's is a greenlighter. my guess is that it's all the same person just making up different accounts to back up his fool-full statements. smoking pills is a waste.

 

[dboyfresh]

Like I said before, ive been around the forum for a while just never signed up because I have way to many other boards I already post on. I had to step up and say something when I saw this so that an end could finally be reached.

Probably a similiar situation for the others, youd be surprised how many people just lurk the forums for information..

apparently, thats not gonna happen.

 

[ocpheend]

soon enough hopefully some one will study the B.A. % of smoked oxycontin pills but untill then lets also hope we only get replies in here from people that have had personal experiance weather they got effects or not and what method they used ect.

buuut this is bl and there will always be flamers...


cant we all just get along? lol

 

[Mr Blonde]

I won't call the rehab because I live in Australia and don't feel like racking up an international phone call charge on a bill someone else has to pay for...but any American Bluelighters want to ring up and find out?

As for the other stuff that was posted: Those binders and fillers are highly unlikely to make smoking OC work. When you try and smoke the pills, those binders and fillers just burn and degrade into carcinogenic and toxic compounds, making smoking pills way worse then cigarettes.

Heroin that can be smoked has been processed at some point to make it like that. Either with caffeine, or using acetone instead of ether during the refining/cooking process. Pure, pharmaceutical grade heroin HCl would be hard to smoke.

As for fentanyl: this sources states it can be vaporized at around 190C. At 300C, the temperature you were talking about, it would decompose.

cant we all just get along? lol

No...we can't...lol

 

[ocpheend]

I won't call the rehab because I live in Australia and don't feel like racking up an international phone call charge on a bill someone else has to pay for...but any American Bluelighters want to ring up and find out?

As for the other stuff that was posted: Those binders and fillers are highly unlikely to make smoking OC work. When you try and smoke the pills, those binders and fillers just burn and degrade into carcinogenic and toxic compounds, making smoking pills way worse then cigarettes.

Heroin that can be smoked has been processed at some point to make it like that. Either with caffeine, or using acetone instead of ether during the refining/cooking process. Pure, pharmaceutical grade heroin HCl would be hard to smoke.

As for fentanyl: this sources states it can be vaporized at around 190C. At 300C, the temperature you were talking about, it would decompose.



No...we can't...lol

what about tar tho? that can be smoked and it dosent have any caffeine or any of that shit in it? (atleast i think so anyways correct me if im wrong)

 

[dboyfresh]

As for fentanyl: this sources states it can be vaporized at around 190C. At 300C, the temperature you were talking about, it would decompose.

We use Fahrenheit over here brah( i do atleast ). 190C=374F

 

[Mr Blonde]

^ Sorry, my mistake! We all know Celcius is superior anyway

Despite the difficulty the OC salt would cause for smoking, even if you freebase it you're gonna need a large amount to get high since the bioavailability is low. How much OC did you smoke to get high? We've already seen rave23's experiment end in failure, that was with 20mg and he has no tolerance.

As for the question about Black Tar Heroin...it contains more alkaloids then refined heroin would, things left over from the production process which are possibly even more potent then heroin, e.g. 6-monoacetylmorphine. These are most likely very smokeable, hence the popularity of chasing the dragon with this type of heroin.

Black tar heroin is made by skipping refining steps in the production of heroin from morphine, like not using ether. It's been known since the early 20th century that by skipping this step, or using a different chemical, you produce heroin that is MUCH better for smoking. I can't remember the source now, but it's available on GoogleBooks...a book about the illicit drug trade throughout the 20th Century.

 

[sonic]

Jah help us... 8)

Like Jamaica said, first of all, you wouldn't want to smoke the salt (-hcl), you'd want to have oxycodone freebase. As Phrozen said, you'd want a shitload...unless you came across a bottle of uncompounded, pure oxycodone hcl, I really don't see anyone doing this (with such a high oral bioavailability) with a few pills...

Exactly! Smoking an hcl salt even if the powder you have is 100% pure is still going to be very ineffective. I will allow the discussion to continue just so people will learn that they shouldn't be smoking pills for their safety and also so they don't waste their drugs. It's pretty safe to say that there is NO pressed pill made by a pharmaceutical company in existence that is more effective to smoke compared to other methods of administration. Also, you never know what will happen when you vaporize the fillers/binders in the pills. It could create toxic byproducts that could harm your lungs and other organs. This kind of thing hasn't been tested and researched so it's not known which pills are the most dangerous to smoke. However, let me reiterate it is ineffective to smoke any pill.

 

[sonic]

guys the vape point of oxycodone freebase isint that much lower atall then the hcl, i actualy spent a long time looking up this info one day.

and heres what i found.

oxycodone hcl - 242-250f
oxycodone freebase - 224-225f

cocaine hcl - 177.5-180f
cocaine freebase - 96-98f

so im guessing even if you did manage to get some pure oxycodone freebase and smoke it off foil or out of a meth pipe i cant imagine it being much different then the hcl assuming u had pure oxy hcl to experiment with aswell.

but i also found this.

diamorphine hcl - 228-232f
diamorphine freebase - 168-173f

anyways i figured these figures would help this topic out a bit.


as far as smoking oc goes i have to say im one of the people that beleive it gets you high, i mean it shouldent even be a question really if somthing gets u high or not.

anyways ive been smoking oxys for awhile now and have gone thru withdrawls from solely smoking oxy, it takes wd's away, ive od'd on it (like simular to if u rail too much ul get nauseated)

i have a friend in the seattle area aswell and it is infact true about the oxy epidemic there, absolutely everyone but everyone is smoking it down there aparently, even have lingo for it now "you fucking beanfiend" "lets go cop some beans" ect and in my area its also become widespread most people i know who were already addicted to or experimenting with oxy who were railing it eventualy turned to smoking it and will not do it any other way.

but its not all good, usualy it will last only about 2-3 hours, especialy if you only have like 1 pill or somthing and ur already in withdrawls when u smoke it, youl feel better for about 2 hours and start coming down again very quickly. and if you do have access to a fair ammount of oxy you will notice tolerance raises VERY quickly from smoking them.


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tolerance actualy rose to a point where id try to rail some after smoking it for awhile and i raild a 40 and usualy for me that should atleast take withdrawls away to a point its not so bad but it didint even do that, i ended up railing 120 before i was feeling better so smoking it did infact increase my tolerance and im absolutely sure if i were to only smoke it for a week or two and take a piss test im pretty sure i would test positive.

im not saying oh yeah smoke oxys its the shit im saying it works and is SURELY bad for you and its also turning out to be really hard to get away from, and i dont mean like quitting oxy alltogether i mean just stopping smoking it, im having a HELL of a time doing it like i have no self controll atall... so im working on that but anyways just wanted to throw this in.

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i cant see it being good for you in any way atall either after taking the drug this way for a period of time ul start hackin shit up and noticing shit about ur lungs/breathing. it is also very difficult to stop smoking the pills once you start, ive tried many times to go back to snorting them but always end up smoking them again.

anyways im gonna say that if you just eat the pill your gonna be sooo much better off, it last longer, nothing to worry about as far as your health goes besides taking too much, and you wont have foil laying all over the place the rush you get from smoking it just is NOT worth it in the long run.

Please post your sources. Also, your post doesn't actually specify what these numbers actually mean. Are they the melting points of different drugs? If so that does NOT translate to the temperature where a drug is destroyed.

Your last sentence of your post makes sense. Smoking an OC MIGHT have a bio-availability higher than zero, but I'd bet my life that oral bio-availability (85%) is higher.

 

[ocpheend]

i cant really say for a non tolerant person as thats non existant around here these days lol, but id say atleast 40mgs smoked for any noticeable effects. give or take.

and yeah i know it dont say anything for what its destroyed at but i dont ahve that info