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Anyone smoke OC?

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Conclusion: Aussies are idiots

Ah, I get it...you like our wall mounted cigarette lighters but you can't stand a true blue Aussie?

That's OK we don't want want you here anyway...try passing the citizenship test with the attitude you've got :p

I don't know what the deal is with that flameless lighter...I always preferred to use a bic. ANYWAYS, I think i'm pretty much done arguing this topic for now. I'm trying to find a digital video camera so I can record someone smoking and post it so y'all can see.

I think rave23 was being serious...he wants you to describe in detail how to smoke an OC so he can do it himself and post his results.

I won't hold my breath.
 
STAY ON TOPIC!

I got rid of a bunch of off-topic/abusive posts.


You don't believe you could smoke OC's and get high, fine. Don't be a dick about it and don't flame people that say they could do it. Argue your point, present evidence, or try it out yourself.
 
Mr Blonde said:
I think rave23 was being serious...he wants you to describe in detail how to smoke an OC so he can do it himself and post his results.

I won't hold my breath.
Yes yes, thats why I want to post a video. It's different from the method shown in the other pill smoking video that was posted.
 
Alec said:
Ok this is rediculous. All you people who say smoking oxycodone does not get you high. Let me tell you, you are WRONG. Smoking roxi's in south florida is out of control. You cant just put a pill on some weed or smoking the pill in a pipe. You MUST do it through foil to have the effect.

To me its not worth it unless you have alot of pills, beacuse its like smoking fentanyl, you go through them fast and the high is short lived. Ive shot, snorted, eatem, plugged, and SMOKED these pills. I know someone who actually ODed from smoking as I was there.


Where the hell did you get that? Im in so flo.. and i know a lot of users and abusers, and i havent heard shit out smoking roxi's.. they are commonly eaten and snorted, more than smoking.. Most people, out of common sense, would think smoking a pill is wasteful..

I mean come on, is the ''rush'' (if any) that pleasurable that you take a drug that lasts 4-8hours, and turn into an expensive hour long ''high''..

:p :p
 
Well just like people including myself get addicted to the needle. You get addicted to the taste of a nice couple of roxys smoking them. I know people still eat, snort oxy down here.. But more people are starting to smoke them. It is a waste of a pill compared to other ways of taking them, and the high only last 2-3 hours. I am just saying that people DO smoke oxy and DO get high, thats what the post was about.
 
Besides the original topic of the thread, I thought about turning rough pill extracted oxycodone to freebase with the means of usual coke methods...

would like to smoke/vaporize oxycodone but I'm not going to do it perhaps ever...
 
I guess he wasn't a troll.;)


This turned into a truly classy thread. I think I have my answer. At some point somebody stated that 'those fucking kids in highschool' are smoking it. Then another credible poster clarified 'that even though smoking is a plausible method of administration, it's bioavailability is considerably reduced beyond ALL other MOA for oxycodone.'

I smell Suburbia, and I smell naive drug-users as well. And it smells like burnt pills.
 
This doesn't make any sense dude.

If you have such a strong habit to Oxycodone, you wouldn't smoke them, you would inject them.

Now I know plenty of cats who've shot up their OC80's, including myself. If you're spending 100's of dollars, you'd move to injecting it. Maybe you personally wouldn't, but most people would. Point being, is that no such 'epidemic' would exist, and I think you're 'epidemic' is just a group of friends.

Maybe you can smoke Oxy's, I'm sure it's possible, but the efficiency is what I find arguable. What I completely disagree with you guys here, is that people spend $500+ on Oxycodone in a day and smoke it all.

Much more effective oral and IV'd than from smoking. I mean, if someone had a $500+ heroin habit, they would stop sniffing and start shooting. Same with meth, same with coke, fuck, there are even many documented cases of the same occuring with MDMA, LSD, and other more obscure drugs that aren't normally IV'd.
 
Mr Blonde said:
Ah, I get it...you like our wall mounted cigarette lighters but you can't stand a true blue Aussie?

Where can I get the link to the website for the lighter? I think we should start a new thread on the Australian wall lighters. Probablly the best thing to ever come out of Australia....What will those idiots think of next
 
PROOF!!!! This is quoted from an article in the Everett Herald (a newspaper here in WA) "High-strength oxycodone can sell on the street for as much as NO PRICING DISCUSSIONS -GM a pill. Users are snorting or smoking it to get high." The entire article can be found here: http://www.heraldnet.com/article/20070626/NEWS01/706260327

I think someone owes us an apology.. :)
 
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TR- I dont think that he was consistently spending that kindof money on OC, just a one night thing.

and yes it does happen, last year I sold an engine for 700$- turned around bought 12 beans and smoked that shit up with my buddy. Maybe smoked one or two with some bitches.

a friend of mine traded his civic worth 10k+ for 50 beans and smoked that shit up over a couple days- thats the only person I know who now shoots...

Its not just a group of friends obviously, its in seattle-im way north of that and shits huge up here. Its used mainly by rich white kids that are a few years out of or still in high school.

and for Rave23- 1. get an oc 80 or 40mg and suck that coating off
2. chop pill into quarters or halves.
3. Sit pill on foil with the rounded side up.
quickly burn it with your bic to make that shit stick real good.
Slant foil a few degrees while lighting a little beneath where the bean is stuck.
If you got the angles etc. right it will start to slide really fast over the foil.
Now grab a pen tube and suck up all the smoke!

Your first hit the smoke will be very hard to handle but after 1 or two it shouldnt really bother you- if it does you may be burning it too much. Also, the pill should leave black tracer marks behind that you can smoke afterwards.

Ive seen fools sell used pieces of foil for the tracers, ive seen a mom diggin through a garbage can to find some tracers! tell me this shit isnt real!
 
Article posted by McShroom said:
High-strength oxycodone can sell on the street for as much as ----- a pill. Users are snorting or smoking it to get high.

That is not proof at all...

There is no source in the newspaper. This kind of statement is called a "Weasel Word". Who are "users"? This could just mean two people have smoked oxycontin, and doesn't even attribute success or not.

Newspapers are not considered reliable sources of information, and more often than not, from what I've seen, newspapers don't know shit about drugs.

Sorry buddy, but that is not proof at all and just an extremely bad article altogether. NO a pill? That's bullshit lie. Maybe one or two people have paid that much, but that is not the general price of an oxycontin 80, and the article is simply sensationalizing the story. All newspaper articles are opinon and subjective, and always biased - they are not objective or fact based. They are not, at all, any way a reliable source of information.

You have given no evidence to support that large numbers of people smoke Oxycontin. It simply isn't true and you are putting out an extremely biased and incorrect information. Please stop, and come back when you have some scientific or credible evidence. A bullshit article by a bad newspaper does not count.

I know you can smoke oxycodone, but it is not a good way to do it. The vaporization of a salt and the burning point are probably very close, making it more likely you are destroying most of the drug with a lighter rather than vaporizing it - for the same reasons, coke can be smoked, but not effectively.

Bioavailibility of oral oxycodone is upwards of 80%, making it much more stronger and effective, as well as economic. When higher doses are required, people are more inclined to inject oxycodone to reach 95%+ levels of BA.

You could do it, sure, but it's a total waste. A complete and utter waste, and you are destroying more of the drug than using it. You can say all you want how you've gotten high from it, but truth of the matter is that you would reach higher levels of drug-blood concentration from oral and IV administration.

People who smoke oxycodone are wasting money and being stupid. Injection, oral, and even nasal methods of ingestion are far more effective and economic. Because of this, it will never be sometihng more than a few kids do a couple times.

So stop spreading this myth. It's ridiculous. And you yourself should stop, it doesn't make you any cooler and it's a retarded waste of a drug and money. Its not huge at all, and anyone who does this is wasting large amounts of oxycodone.
 
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KEEP PRICING DISCUSSIONS IN THE PRICE THREAD -GM
 
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LET ME REITERATE: NO PRICING DISCUSSION OUTSIDE OF THE PRICING THREAD -GM
 
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Any the newspaper get its information from guess who ... The police . which guess who . Doesnt know jack shit then give it to the paper to pass off as information instead of talking to the people who actually use the shit . The day i actually believe something about drugs put in the newspaper is the day richard simons runs for office .

and im with Theo . i pay fucking NO bucks for oxy 80's let alone 80 . l would love to have my parents money to spend on drugs...
 
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and MANY People pay 80$ a pill regularly! who the fuck are you to know? I have a buddy who makes a living selling them for 80 all day long. 70$ is actually considered a good price! and no its not cause I have shitty connects.

No they don't. Only a couple of your high-school buddies do this, anyone who pays this much is retarded. I'm not trying to dicksize or anything here, but that is seriously a retarded price. The prescription cost of OC80 per pill is under $15 a pill easily. The only way someone is selling $80/pill is if they are the only supplier of oxycontin and no one else is selling OC's or any substitutes, like Hydrocodone or heroin.

You do not have a buddy who has a steady income and provides for his entire livelihood by selling OC80s at 80 per pill. A kid living with is parents selling 1 or 2 pills a day does not count as "making a living".

Yes, you do have shitty connects. The prescription price is low. If oxycontin is going for 80/pill, then people will naturally look at the price of substitute goods as an alternative. I know heroin is quite common up in the Northwest of America, and is quite cheap there.

I'm an Economics major, I know what I am talking about. Basically, the premise is that there is no such thing as a monopoly. If something is overpriced way too high, people are going to revert to substitute goods, like heroin and oxycodone, as a replacement. Say cars all the sudden cost a million bucks - people would revert to horse and buggy (and in some areas, this actually happens). If OC80 costs 80/pill, people will just use heroin instead.

Its become such a WIDESPREAD PROBLEM that people know kids are feenin so much theyre willing to pay the price no matter what.

Right, I understand it is an inelastic good. But oxycontin has substitutes, and there are quite a few published journal articles citing that Oxycontin users have a higher demand elasticity than heroin users - meaning that no, they are not willing to pay the price no matter what, and that they would switch to heroin as the cross price elasticity between heroin and oxycontin is quite high.

It is not a widespread problem, this smoking of oxycontin. Please stop making up blatant lies. Oxycontin is a big problem, eating and injecting and snorting is a big problem. But not smoking them.
 
Where the fuck are you from???? and im not in highschool, nor do I have any highschool buddies.

Have you even looked at the 2008 price thread? I see more than a couple west coast posts talking about 80s for 80$. even one saying 90 for non generics!!!

Youre right, he also sells coke and weed.. but his main profit comes from selling beans- He picks up 200 a time for 50$ a pop, no lie. I get fucking amazing quality bud and coke from this guy for prices youve probly never even heard of brah, hes a great connect.. even sells good quality X occasionally at only 2-3$ a pop. Beans are just expensive up here! face it!

Heroin is quite common yes, but its shitty black tar. Ive smoked it and its no where near as fulfilling as smoking a bean. Cheaper yes, but money isnt an object to me or most people I know.

substitutes??? as far as smoking goes there is only heroin which sucks dick! tar atleast.

They would really?? well then why isnt my town full of heroin junkies instead of oxy smokers? I tried H a couple times up here and it was HORRIBLE! I dont know if youve ever seen tar but its not pretty.. the smoke tastes horrible and you have to smoke ridiculous amounts to get high. If powdered H were around then yes I think that most would probably convert over to smoking that.


THIS IS NO LIE!! I dont know where youre from but everyone here has enough money to spend it on whatever the fuck they want and they choose to spend it on beans.

Walks said:
What I hear in Long Beach, CA
Oxy
Hard to find.

20mg 20$
40mg 40$
80mg 80$

Infusion said:
My friend's experience: Eastern WA & Western WA:

Oxy $.50 - 1.00++/mg (real 80 = $90 / $60, generic = varies)

Crack Squad said:
VANCOUVER BRITISH COLUMBIA, CANADA (suburb of Vancouver)

Oxycontin: $0.50 - $1/mg
shrub himself said:
Prices vary from which part of TN..I'm familiar with middle and east.

-Oxy- always one dollar per milligram..ie 80mg Oxy=80 bucks
 
Ok, can be move away from the price and "epidemic" discussion. There really is no point to discussing those things.
 
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