Anyone smoke OC?

[Will01996]

arr this argument is so dumb

Person A says they got high smoking OC
Person B says you can't (even though they haven't tried it)
Person C says they've tried it and didn't get high

you guys aren't gonna convince each other otherwise, so what's the point?

Dr. Phil could NOT have analyzed this any better!

 

[methadon3000]

Haribo1 mentioned: acetic anhydride, better propanoic anhydride and better cinnamyl anhydride.

Are those chemicals legal? Where would you obtain them? Not looking for an address just a general term like pharmacy, or specialty chemical labs? THat type of thing is what I'd like to know.

As well Haribo1 said apply one of those to oxycodone....but what does that mean? You do it the same way you would do with making crack out of coke? I don't even know how to do that (crack out of coke) but every user of coke DOES know how to do so and one of my opiate/opioid dealers used to make crack out of coke on/in a spoon. With some heat I remember and some chemical (probably baking soda/or bakeing powder), he would do it.

Thanks in advance, I'd really like to know the answer to my question/questions from someone more knowledgeble in chemistry and in this field than I am.

 

[yiggy]

Haribo1 mentioned: acetic anhydride, better propanoic anhydride and better cinnamyl anhydride.

Are those chemicals legal? Where would you obtain them? Not looking for an address just a general term like pharmacy, or specialty chemical labs? THat type of thing is what I'd like to know.

As well Haribo1 said apply one of those to oxycodone....but what does that mean? You do it the same way you would do with making crack out of coke? I don't even know how to do that (crack out of coke) but every user of coke DOES know how to do so and one of my opiate/opioid dealers used to make crack out of coke on/in a spoon. With some heat I remember and some chemical (probably baking soda/or bakeing powder), he would do it.

Thanks in advance, I'd really like to know the answer to my question/questions from someone more knowledgeble in chemistry and in this field than I am.

dude if u dont know how to cook crack making ur own opiates/opioids is outta the question

 

[rave23]

wow, i can't believe you made me do this. I am so fucking sick of people talking about how to smoke pills.

I just split took a generic OC40, crushed it, shoved half of it it down my now clean meth pipe, heated it up and inhaled a crapload of smoke. It actually feels like i was inhaling (glass)shards. I coughed like a bitch, even though i removed the coating. Do i feel anything besides frustration cause i wasted 20mg of Oxy? No!
Next trial! I took the rest of the pill and smoked it like you said, chasing the dragon style. left nasty black stuff on the foil, and it hurt my lungs even more.There is also a crapload of black shit in the pipe, the smoke was off white / brownish and tasted like... uhm ... burned popcorn? Something like that.

I hope that helps settling it. Now i continue coughing like a bitch, and enjoy my ruined lungs. How can anybody do that more than once? I have a small tollerance right now, i can get off 20mg oxy oral. so i think my dose was sufficient.

Detailed Procedure:

Meth Pipe:

1. Crushed one Generic Oxy 40mgs in half
2. i wiped off the coating with a damp towel
3. i ground the pill to a fine powder
4. i put it in my cleaned out meth pipe
5. i heated the substance using a lighter untill it started to melt.
6. i swished the liquid stuff around to increase the surface area
7. i continued to light it untill smoke started to form, and i stopped after the stuff turned black and there was no more smoke being released
8. i toke one massive rip of the pipe, inhaling all smoke at once
9. i held it for about 6 seconds

Aluminum Foil:

1. I took the other half and removed the coating as well
2. i ground it up to a fine powder
3. i put it on foil and heated unitll liquid
4. i put a straw above it and continued heating untill smoke was being released
5. i inhaled untill the smoke stopped. That was enough for 3 lungfulls
6. held every hit for about 6 seconds
7. exhaled

Conclusion: Worthless. I knew this was never gonna work, but i just wanted to aid you guys a little in proving how poinless it is to smoke oxy.
Now i need a lung transplant or something...

 

[rave23]

oh fuck, i am still coughing up black phlegm an hour after doing that... What a fucking crackpot idea that was. I hope someone learns something from that. My lungs hurt like a bitch

 

[phr]

I know someone is gonna bring up the fact that you tried this with generics.

"You gotta use ABG's or Purdues, man!"

 

[McShroom]

Hey guys, this is my first post but I just wanted to provide a little insight here. Smoking OC is an epidemic in Washington state. They do have to be the brand name ones (OC, CDN-Canadian, ABG-Discontinued). I don't really know why the generics don't work, i've always assumed it had to be something to do with the gelling factor. I've heard of people putting it on bowls and smoking it, but i've found this to be ineffective. Usually it's smoked off of aluminum foil like has been said previously. I know you guys hotly debate this and say it's a waste, which I believe it is because at $1 a milligram and the high lasting about an hour isn't worth it. On a final note, to those that still don't believe me, I just got out of inpatient for smoking OC's a while back. The withdrawals were real, so it can't be a placebo effect. Also, out of 100 people in the facility 25-30 were in there for smoking OC. I'm not saying it's not a stupid waste to do, personally I believe it is after going to rehab and seeing how out of control my life was getting with it. But my point is that it definately is possible, and any that don't believe me come visit a rehab center out here in Washington state.

 

[Olyn]

I can't believe you did that just to prove a point, rave.

 

[haribo1]

Of course, some pills are widely smoked. In South Africa, methaqualone is the number 1 drug of abuse. 'De wit pipe' is a chillum of crushed pills on a bed of weed.

 

[skoat]

Hey guys, this is my first post but I just wanted to provide a little insight here. Smoking OC is an epidemic in Washington state. They do have to be the brand name ones (OC, CDN-Canadian, ABG-Discontinued). I don't really know why the generics don't work, i've always assumed it had to be something to do with the gelling factor. I've heard of people putting it on bowls and smoking it, but i've found this to be ineffective. Usually it's smoked off of aluminum foil like has been said previously. I know you guys hotly debate this and say it's a waste, which I believe it is because at $1 a milligram and the high lasting about an hour isn't worth it. On a final note, to those that still don't believe me, I just got out of inpatient for smoking OC's a while back. The withdrawals were real, so it can't be a placebo effect. Also, out of 100 people in the facility 25-30 were in there for smoking OC. I'm not saying it's not a stupid waste to do, personally I believe it is after going to rehab and seeing how out of control my life was getting with it. But my point is that it definately is possible, and any that don't believe me come visit a rehab center out here in Washington state.

Well now, what am I to think? Sounds like Washington has a problem, I am from the other Washington (D.C.) and I can quarantee you I've only even heard of it occuring once.

I wonder if I cut my arm and tried to pack OC into the cut if it would be cool and get me high.

 

[McShroom]

Well now, what am I to think? Sounds like Washington has a problem, I am from the other Washington (D.C.) and I can quarantee you I've only even heard of it occuring once.

I wonder if I cut my arm and tried to pack OC into the cut if it would be cool and get me high.

Think Washington has a problem...the drug culture here is extremely different from anywhere i've ever been. And I know what its like to have people disbelieve the oxy smoking thing, I was on the east coast this summer (NY) and NO ONE had heard of smoking OC's before. But it's an epidemic out here, personally I think it's a pretty wasteful high now.

 

[Lechium]

I remember hearing that some pills are very dangerous to smoke, because if you hold the smoke in, it will actually crystalize in your lungs and then ultimately ( from doing this too much) the lungs would get all hacked up...is this true?

 

[dboyfresh]

Hey guys, this is my first post but I just wanted to provide a little insight here. Smoking OC is an epidemic in Washington state. They do have to be the brand name ones (OC, CDN-Canadian, ABG-Discontinued). I don't really know why the generics don't work, i've always assumed it had to be something to do with the gelling factor. I've heard of people putting it on bowls and smoking it, but i've found this to be ineffective. Usually it's smoked off of aluminum foil like has been said previously. I know you guys hotly debate this and say it's a waste, which I believe it is because at $1 a milligram and the high lasting about an hour isn't worth it. On a final note, to those that still don't believe me, I just got out of inpatient for smoking OC's a while back. The withdrawals were real, so it can't be a placebo effect. Also, out of 100 people in the facility 25-30 were in there for smoking OC. I'm not saying it's not a stupid waste to do, personally I believe it is after going to rehab and seeing how out of control my life was getting with it. But my point is that it definately is possible, and any that don't believe me come visit a rehab center out here in Washington state.

Im from Washington state also and have seen first hand how big of a problem smoking oxycontin has become. Smoking this shit MOST definitely works! Ive got a close girl friend of mine and another buddy currently in inpatient for smoking oc and half the fucking town is hooked on the stuff.

Rave23- When you did your little experiment you smoking it like it was meth, that was your mistake. You cut the pill into quarters and slide them along the foil. The point of this is not to get any direct heat or the oxycodone will just burn up. You have to slant the foil and keep the lighter far from the pill chunk.

I think thats a lot of peoples mistake when first trying it out. Its definitely not a placebo and I dont believe it to be that wasteful either. Before moving here to Washington state - back east I had steady access to good powdered H and over here all theyve got is black tar ... And I would much rather go out and smoke an 80 then get a G of tar. I cant imagine either being to great on the lungs...

 

[TheodoreRoosevelt]

Rave23- When you did your little experiment you smoking it like it was meth, that was your mistake. You cut the pill into quarters and slide them along the foil. The point of this is not to get any direct heat or the oxycodone will just burn up. You have to slant the foil and keep the lighter far from the pill chunk.

I think thats a lot of peoples mistake when first trying it out. Its definitely not a placebo and I dont believe it to be that wasteful either. Before moving here to Washington state - back east I had steady access to good powdered H and over here all theyve got is black tar ... And I would much rather go out and smoke an 80 then get a G of tar. I cant imagine either being to great on the lungs...

Dude rave23 has no tolerance, and vaporized a whole friggin 40 in one setting. Rave23 inhaled vapor, rave23 obviously didn't smoke it wrong if rave23 inhaled vapor and lungs hurt.

You're a troll. I can't believe someone would say rave23 did it wrong, when clearly they showed you can't get high on OC40's.

And generic would smoke just the same as brand name. Oxycodone is oxycodone is oxycodone.

I'm convinced, anyone who thinks you can smoke these are an idiot. Epidemic in Washington State my fucking ass, what a load of BS. Reason you get high is because you put it on weed, I hate when people say "Add pills to weed and it gets you high!". No shit it does.

 

[CloudyHazeD]

Oxycodone is oxycodone is oxycodone

Well fuck me~!

Agree 100% with ole' Theodore there.

Lets all go smoke some pill binding compounds and get light headed for five minutes! Hell yea!

 

[skoat]

I am confused. You call him a troll and seem pretty confident you are right.

Umm, anyone else from Washington State want to chime in? Having smoked black tar myself I can relate to what you mean by the fact that you have to slant the foil, keep the flame at a certain distance keep things as a fluid motion.

I feel like smoking would be a waste, haven't tried it.

Why is this only a problem in Washington State? Are people just daft there? Kidding. You guys still rail them over there or is that like 'out' or something?

 

[TheodoreRoosevelt]

He's a troll, there's no epidemic of smoking oxycodone there. Just his two dumbass friends sprinkle it on their weed is all that happens, if anything.

It doesnt work, and it's not nearly as effective as injecting, snorting, or eating them. He's full of shit.

 

[McShroom]

I am confused. You call him a troll and seem pretty confident you are right.

Umm, anyone else from Washington State want to chime in? Having smoked black tar myself I can relate to what you mean by the fact that you have to slant the foil, keep the flame at a certain distance keep things as a fluid motion.

I feel like smoking would be a waste, haven't tried it.

Why is this only a problem in Washington State? Are people just daft there? Kidding. You guys still rail them over there or is that like 'out' or something?

Can't tell you why it's a problem up here. But it definately is. People railing them isn't unheard of, but I only know 1 or 2 people that rail them and alot that smoke them. It does cause crackhead behavior though, i.e. people fiending for hits, people begging for hits, people dropping insane amounts of money in one sitting (one buddy spent 700 bucks in a day). I'm guaranteeing you guys it's the #1 MOA out here. I smoked it, I went to rehab for it, now i'm clean off of it but still have alot of friends that do it. If you can smoke Black Tar Heroin (Heroin HCl) why can't you smoke Oxycodone HCl? According to the Merck Index they both have similar melting/boiling points..

 

[ocpheend]

guys the vape point of oxycodone freebase isint that much lower atall then the hcl, i actualy spent a long time looking up this info one day.

and heres what i found.

oxycodone hcl - 242-250f
oxycodone freebase - 224-225f

cocaine hcl - 177.5-180f
cocaine freebase - 96-98f

so im guessing even if you did manage to get some pure oxycodone freebase and smoke it off foil or out of a meth pipe i cant imagine it being much different then the hcl assuming u had pure oxy hcl to experiment with aswell.

but i also found this.

diamorphine hcl - 228-232f
diamorphine freebase - 168-173f

anyways i figured these figures would help this topic out a bit.


as far as smoking oc goes i have to say im one of the people that beleive it gets you high, i mean it shouldent even be a question really if somthing gets u high or not.

anyways ive been smoking oxys for awhile now and have gone thru withdrawls from solely smoking oxy, it takes wd's away, ive od'd on it (like simular to if u rail too much ul get nauseated)

i have a friend in the seattle area aswell and it is infact true about the oxy epidemic there, absolutely everyone but everyone is smoking it down there aparently, even have lingo for it now "you fucking beanfiend" "lets go cop some beans" ect and in my area its also become widespread most people i know who were already addicted to or experimenting with oxy who were railing it eventualy turned to smoking it and will not do it any other way.

but its not all good, usualy it will last only about 2-3 hours, especialy if you only have like 1 pill or somthing and ur already in withdrawls when u smoke it, youl feel better for about 2 hours and start coming down again very quickly. and if you do have access to a fair ammount of oxy you will notice tolerance raises VERY quickly from smoking them.


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tolerance actualy rose to a point where id try to rail some after smoking it for awhile and i raild a 40 and usualy for me that should atleast take withdrawls away to a point its not so bad but it didint even do that, i ended up railing 120 before i was feeling better so smoking it did infact increase my tolerance and im absolutely sure if i were to only smoke it for a week or two and take a piss test im pretty sure i would test positive.

im not saying oh yeah smoke oxys its the shit im saying it works and is SURELY bad for you and its also turning out to be really hard to get away from, and i dont mean like quitting oxy alltogether i mean just stopping smoking it, im having a HELL of a time doing it like i have no self controll atall... so im working on that but anyways just wanted to throw this in.

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i cant see it being good for you in any way atall either after taking the drug this way for a period of time ul start hackin shit up and noticing shit about ur lungs/breathing. it is also very difficult to stop smoking the pills once you start, ive tried many times to go back to snorting them but always end up smoking them again.

anyways im gonna say that if you just eat the pill your gonna be sooo much better off, it last longer, nothing to worry about as far as your health goes besides taking too much, and you wont have foil laying all over the place the rush you get from smoking it just is NOT worth it in the long run.

 

[TheodoreRoosevelt]

(one buddy spent 700 bucks in a day).

No one does $700 worth of Oxycodone in a single day, seriously you're so full of fucking shit. If you do $700 you would be injecting it, not fucking smoking it.

Seriously, shut the fuck up and go troll somewhere else.

I'm guaranteeing you guys it's the #1 MOA out here. I smoked it, I went to rehab for it,

That's a big fucking lie, #1 MoA is eating it you dumbfuck. And you didn't go to rehab for a high that didn't exist.

According to the Merck Index they both have similar melting/boiling points..

Right. Black tar is in the Merck Index. You're a bad liar.

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