Thanks!What i used to do was this. Wrap the beads up in paper then roll a 5lbs stell weight over them. That crushed em to bits
It's like damn why didn't I think of that lol. Can't stand chewing them. Thanks again!
Thanks!What i used to do was this. Wrap the beads up in paper then roll a 5lbs stell weight over them. That crushed em to bits
I agree . I do chew them . But haven't tried to crush because I've read on here horror stories of getting particles in the lungs. I take hydromorphone for two reasons, pain and not to withdrawal. I don't get high like I would on oxys. I'm talking insufflating. I know the wonderful high iving dilaudid. I would eventually get 3mgs every 2 hrs in hospital. I literally didn't want to leave. I was euphoric, eating hospital food like it was a kings meal. Going out for smokes, flirting with nurses. Life was good . But that's what got me on to opioids. Definitely my fault. I knew what I was doing. That's why I warn any addict to low dose on iv hydromorphone. Or avoid if you can.You know, William S. Burroughs mentions Dilaudid (hydromorphone) in his autobiographical novel 'Junky'. Someone else mentions it him and that that they would use the thick end of a wooden toothpick to measure the dose (of powder). They go on to say a lot of people OD on the stuff. now even the thick end of a toothpick is quite small.
It's also the opioid that kills the character 'Nadine' in the film 'Drugstore Cowboy'.
Be very careful.
As others have noted, pills are not designed for any other ROA so there are extra risks associated with doing so.
If you can enjoy them by just swallowing the stuff, I would suggest it's the safer option. Yes, oral bioavailability isn't great, but it sounds like it's enough.
Soak the beads in water for 24 hours, filter, and inject. Just make sure you don't OD, I would make a solution that had about 16mg/ml. That way you can draw up half a cc at a time, and know it's 8mg. They are only good for constipation taken orally. IV, they are the bees knees. I love em.
Your suggestion got me curious. I have an OP80 -- you know those hard gelatin pills that can't be crushed up. They replaced OC80s after Perdue got so much heat for causing the opioid epidemic. Anyway, I'm wondering if soaking it in water for a day or two would do the trick. I don't intend to inject it -- I figured I'd just drink it (or maybe take it rectally). The point is, I just want to break the time release. But I don't want to do it until i get confirmation that it works, because this one pill was crazy expensive!
Thanks. There was a time when I could rail a whole OC80 and still not get much of a buzz, but that was a long time ago so I'll be careful. Anyway, the important thing is -- you don't think there's any chance that the water soaking thing could somehow cause it to lose potency, right? I'd sure hate to waste it!Someone mentioned this a while ago. The answer was to place it in warm water - to emulate the environment of the intestines, I suppose. But I'm also told that a new sustained release system relies on osmosis and so there actually needs to be electrolytes in the liquid to 'push' the active out.
80mg IS a lot to be very careful. I imagine even taken as is, it's effects would be prerry potent.
Nasal definitely works and is a lot more effective than oral. I have not tried IV but I would never inject pills, especially not anything in time release form.haha. nodding out at the keys.
Yeah, if you are new to opies, don't shoot this. try oral or nasal. Some people find plugging to be good, I think snorting is way better. Try to avoid mixing such large amounts of downers, as you need less of both for equivalent effects.
You were misled.After a bit of forum searching, I found that soaking them in CocaCola is a common way of breaking the time release. Anybody try this?
Interesting side note -- back in my younger days, I remember hearing that you should drink grapefruit juice to make the OC effect more powerful, but then someone else told me that the acids in the juice can damage the opioid, so i had this whole ritual where i would chug grapefruit juice, wait 20 minutes, take an antacid, wait another 20, then take the pill. Sort of funny because apparently people are soaking them in lemon juice and various other acidic liquids to break the time release! I think i was mislead about needing antacids...![]()
After a bit of forum searching, I found that soaking them in CocaCola is a common way of breaking the time release. Anybody try this?
Well, I'm sure I don't need to say that it's much better as an occasional treat than as a way of life.
Did the thing dissolve? I'm curious but it may be the case that the pill simply leeches out the active as electrolytes leech in - which may make people think that their efforts had no result.
They might be different but over here I’ve had luck with time release oxycodone 80s by placing them in slightly acidic water overnight. Then drink, as per your desired IRdosage. I’m not sure it gets rid of all the time release, but it gets rid of most. It’s a very hard green pill and I would not be surprised if there’s a lot of gelatin in it, based on how it reacts in solution as well.Your suggestion got me curious. I have an OP80 -- you know those hard gelatin pills that can't be crushed up. They replaced OC80s after Perdue got so much heat for causing the opioid epidemic. Anyway, I'm wondering if soaking it in water for a day or two would do the trick. I don't intend to inject it -- I figured I'd just drink it (or maybe take it rectally). The point is, I just want to break the time release. But I don't want to do it until i get confirmation that it works, because this one pill was crazy expensive!
By original formation do you mean the OC80s? They are very easy to get in Sweden. Mundipharma brand. I used to shoot 80mg at a time, shit was awesomeIt seems like the UK is almost unique in still using the original Oxycontin formulation.
That is to say 40% of the active drug is designed to be released immediately and then the remaining 60% is designed to be released slowly. In theory this means it still provides pain relief quite quickly but in theory, it keeps the plasma level of the drug the same over 12 hours.
In theory. In fact I posted a paper that showed mean pain relief was 9.6 hours (study of 1152 patients). So I take mine TID. It works and I don't fall over (40mg and I DO).
By original formation do you mean the OC80s? They are very easy to get in Sweden. Mundipharma brand. I used to shoot 80mg at a time, shit was awesome