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Amphetamine / Speed - Quality and Regional Info

You've got me thinking mine may not be here today now. We'll see. It was marked as shipped virtually instantly Thursday evening.

What you've described is pretty much what i meant, im not so hot on explaining myself. But yeah, the remainding 30% is the salt keeping it all together. Sulphate from Sulphuric acid reaction. I forget why Sulphate is preferred for amp, but it is.

So, like i said, the chances of your, or the vast majorities speed being as pure as can be is unlikely when the lazy cunts cant even be bothered to remove the solvent..!

Ive not pissed about with speed for nearly 10 years, aside from the odd line. Maybe im jaded.. Ill let you know how thr powder turns out..

Sniffing will obviously hit you quicker and harder, oral will be a smoother ride. As for titrating, it makes no odds so long as you're being cautious. I prefer to sniff it, personally, whi doesn't like dopamine flooding their head though :D
 
We used to get kind of wet meth here we used to call base. It was sold by the point. It was extremely potent. Not much less so than crystal. It seems to have completely dissapeared now. It's all crystal. You cant get any other type of speed. There is european sulphate available from dn vendors here but I have no interest. Sounds too hit and miss.
 
I don't trust the paste at all - I've only had what I would call 'good' paste several times since it became the standard way of ripping people off. Amphetamine sulphate should be a stable white dry odourless powder - not full of solvents or added water. When I get up and running on the DN it's gonna be the dry stuff all the way!

As for the purity issue, 100% amphetamine sulphate equates to 73% amphetamine and 27% sulphate - but that is preferable to 100% amphetamine base which is unstable and highly reactive and responsible for nasty physical side effects. The sulphate is absorbed more easily and is perfect for nasal administration. Snorting speed is the way to go...
 
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What are your thoughts on plugging it?

The problem with a lot of the DN phet advertised as 'dry powder' is that it's still damp shit when you get it. In my limited experience.
 
Fug said:
What are your thoughts on plugging it?

The problem with a lot of the DN phet advertised as 'dry powder' is that it's still damp shit when you get it. In my limited experience.
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Contrary to popular belief and except for a few embarrassing episodes with inanimate objects, I am not a great fan of shoving stuff up my arse. Sulphate is for your nose, or dabbing - I'm a bit of a traditionalist in that respect :)
 
I reckon the speed I get online is as close to pure as possible (once dry). It's already a very thick paste, when it arrives, so it only takes a couple of minutes to dry, and 50mg up the nose is a strong experience. I'd go with 50mg oral, if you want to keep it sensible, without looking too wired. You can always take another 50mg bomb out with you, if you need to redose.
 
Just FYI, i had another read of the feedback of the paste vendor in question and saw a post that said they did an acetone wash and got 350mg. So obviously the 70% purity is quite a bit, my math skills are diabolical but would I be right in saying that would equate to 35% (or thereabouts). Actually quite happy with this as it makes it much easier to determine how to dose.

So in regards to the dosing advice, would an assumed purity of 35% mean I could use aderall dosages just by converting 35% to 100% with whatever dose I choose? If so, can anyone give me an idea of what effect to expect from adderal dosages? I did some googling, but I've seen responses from "wouldn't need more than 30mg" to upwards of 60mg to about 90mg. If someone could give me an idea of the dose range that would be brilliant. Looking for a recreational dose that mixes well with a fair bit of drinking, but doesn't push me into the territory of getting edgy, uncontrollably hyper or look fucked up to others (jaw clenching, wide eyes, dilated pupils). Basically I want a feel good buzz that allows me to have a bit of a pleasant boost without the experience ever becoming over powering (kind of like a solid background dose with a bit of moodlift).

Also I've been doing coke the last couple of days (not a poper bings, just a few lines after work (plus a cheeky couple at work one day). I've had a line about half an hour ago while spinning tunes (i'm doing smallish rails, but best of the best DNM stuff) and I'm wondering whether this will have any negative consequences on the speed later on. I'll have come down off the coke a good few hours before opening the speed, are there any serious concerns besides you're liable to get a comedown from hell? Will the phet work s it should?
 
F.U.B.A.R. said:
I don't trust the paste at all - I've only had what I would call 'good' paste several times since it became the standard way of ripping people off. Amphetamine sulphate should be a stable white dry odourless powder - not full of solvents or added water. When I get up and running on the DN it's gonna be the dry stuff all the way!

As for the purity issue, 100% amphetamine sulphate equates to 73% amphetamine and 27% sulphate - but that is preferable to 100% amphetamine base which is unstable and highly reactive and responsible for nasty physical side effects. The sulphate is absorbed more easily and is perfect for nasal administration. Snorting speed is the way to go...
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Pretty much, the first vendor I was going to opt for had poweder that was described at 73% as you say with an explanation that the rest was the sulphate. Unfortunately he couldn't guarentee delivery in the time I needed it, so i had to go for a cheaper paste option (which still came with decent feedback). Since I started the thread, I'venoticed one bit of feedback saying they acetone washed and got 350mg back, so I suppose there's your answer. Also, its interesting you say pure amphet should be odourless. Can it be assumed that the "classic speed smell" (often present in certain degrees with a strong whiff of /glucose/whatever cut) is actually to do with the solvent involved. Because speed (paste in my experience) always has a distinct smell, which is always there but stands out most in the more pure batches I've had.

Anyhoo I better get that paste dried out for snorting then.
 
My maths are probably poorer than yours so i wont comment on purity. Id still advise titrating up from 15-20 mg. You most likely wont notice that dose, especially as youve already being using up your DA.

You'll most likely receive the effects youre after, stimulation and the ability to drink more than your sober self. Haven't you any coke left? I know in the interest of HR we shouldnt condone cocaine and booze due to the interaction and toxicity. They go so well together though and its the most common combo probably, common because it does what you want so well. Doesnt do much for your average personality unfortunately :D

The cat piss smell is exactly that, solvents and other nasties.

My powder didnt come:| Though, some paste i bought with leftover pennies did. Ive dried 4grams out, the impatient way, ive got less than 2 left. Some nice tingles going on though, ive got very little tolerance if any. Does 3fpm have crossover tolerance as its an amp skeleton with bits and bobs on??
 
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ordinary mind said:
Hi,

Ive had a few experiences of low quality street speed which really didn't impress me. I absolutely loved meth tho, so after seeing responses on this forum from members that swear by phet, I figured I'd give it another shot with decent DNM gear. Has come as a paste (could get pics if you want, but I don't imagine it will give much indication of quality. I think vendor advertised it as 70% or so, but can't remember and I don't doubt it is much less based on the price. However, it gets good feedback for DN phet, so I was hoping to get some advice regarding how to dose phet from those who have had the decent DNM stuff. Is bombed or snorted better (once dried out I assume). Any idea of dosage. Do I stick it on a plate to dry it? I'm looking for a good dose that will keep me "functional" and buzzed as possible on a night of HEAAAAAAAAAAVY drinking, without making me look or act seriously fcked in front of my coworkers on tomorrows night out.

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Bomb it, 50mg is a good dose to start with. Nice balance of boozy-ness and speediness
 
Cheers for the advice all, I'll aim for a tester or 30mg sometime before heading out and see how that hits me. I do have a bit of coke left. The issue there is I don't really want to have to be slinking away to the bathroom or whatever to dose frequently. TBH if I had a bit more (and I was considreing ordering another g) then I might have gone down the coke route, but as it is so expensive and I have a strong feeling this night is going to be fairly unexceptional (I'm only really going so I don't want to be seen as a stick in the mud. Bloody peer pressure!

So if I were to perhaps start the night with coke and then decided it wasn't conevnient, would it be possible to change over to speed or would you really have to leave a good period of time between the two drugs to avoid getting inadvertently super stimmed?

Also, Dan is telling me to bomb, Scotch is saying snort. Anyone able to offer a comparison?
 
Oral - probs a smoother overall experience, longer acting.

Snorting - more of a rush / high to be had, shorter acting.

Plugged - best of both worlds.
 
Sorry for all the questions, but while I'm here should I just dry it out on a plate. Looks like this stuff is definately on the wet side. I'm ideally wanting it ready in the next couple hours to test. Do I have to spread it out, which is currently quite difficult, or do I wait for it to dry for a bit before chopping and spreading? How long does it take? Any faster ways?

Also, to the people that suggested oral doses, is that dry weight?
 
Fug said:
Oral - probs a smoother overall experience, longer acting.

Snorting - more of a rush / high to be had, shorter acting.

Plugged - best of both worlds.
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Does oral still have a decent buzz (sense of contentment, not necessarily an adrenaline type rush). If so that sounds like the best option for this particular night. Cheers
 
Yep oral still has a decent buzz, just depends on the dose really. You'll get the confidence / energy / focus without necessarily being fiendishly glued to a CD case racking up lines all evening.

Spread it out over a plate and leave it by a heat source / air current.

In the past i've used a hairdryer in /on / around the baggie and that has worked to a degree.

Could potentially microwave it a bit but run the risk of fucking your speed if you don't know what you're doing.

I tend to let it just dry out naturally.

Doses are presumed dry weight I guess yeah. Or as close to dry as possible.
 
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