Painful One
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Not according to the scientists![]()
scientists are WAY behind!
and even they are starting to see things differently.
see my above article from scientific research.


Not according to the scientists![]()
I remember them all as liars who are going out with such testimonies that being their goal in other words I don't believe it.
it's been long suspected that near death experiences result from the brain being flooded with endogenous dmt and 5meodmt, ofc theres going to be a lot of similarities across all people, the same way any dmt and 5meodmt trip is similar across all people
the "white tunnel" effect is something I've personally had happen when "whiting out" from a high dose of 5meodmt
"talking with long lost loved ones" sounds suspiciously like someone talking to machine elves when they didn't know they were tripping and the set/setting made them color and remember the experience a certain way
that's what I felt the first time I IV'd ketamine and basically had an OBE. it was pretty wildIt was more real than this reality.
Why lie?
Wtf are machine elvesit's been long suspected that near death experiences result from the brain being flooded with endogenous dmt and 5meodmt, ofc theres going to be a lot of similarities across all people, the same way any dmt and 5meodmt trip is similar across all people
the "white tunnel" effect is something I've personally had happen when "whiting out" from a high dose of 5meodmt
"talking with long lost loved ones" sounds suspiciously like someone talking to machine elves when they didn't know they were tripping and the set/setting made them color and remember the experience a certain way
Same freak and proud:DI AM A FREAK OF NATURE!
Holy Shit!
Some, but it’s not absolute.
Was it a real experience? Were they hallucinating? Are some of them just lying for some reason?
All of the above and possibly more. It interests me, particularly when people change significantly based on such an experience, which happens.
Plus I think it’s good for an interesting discussion.![]()
Apparently he believes in God, but doesn’t practice a religion, at least this was true in 2012.Didn't it turn out that raymond moody himself was some sort of fucking religious nut even tho he always denied it?
One key revelation: despite his frustrations with some religious and New Age interpretations of his work, and the fact that he does not practice a religion, the psychologist and philosopher who grew up the son of an agnostic surgeon says he has “woken up to God.”
“From the very beginning (of my afterlife studies) I was hearing people with experiences, some of whom had not been religious and some of whom were, and whatever they had been before, afterward there seemed to be a sort of commonality, which is the understanding that yes, there is a God,” Moody said.
you have much to learn about dmt, my poor, innocent child. but this is the politics section of the board, go ask that in psychedelic discussionWtf are machine elves
Nah I'm goodyou have much to learn about dmt, my poor, innocent child. but this is the politics section of the board, go ask that in psychedelic discussion
That is actually not true at all. Also in the Northern and Central European countries the study in the article took place in: Denmark, Germany, and Norway; religion/spirituality, and lack of for atheists are meant to be extremely personal and private, and not public, and public attempts of conversion to any religion, spirituality, or even atheism is seen as aggression. It is also this way in the Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg, France, Sweden, and Iceland.How much faith do you put in peoples reports? I used to read a lot about it untill I eventually realised how many of the people claiming "I saw the tunnel to God" were actually christians trying to push their religion.
Did you read the article? It mentions DMT but says that there is no evidence of a NDE being the result of DMT.it's been long suspected that near death experiences result from the brain being flooded with endogenous dmt and 5meodmt, ofc theres going to be a lot of similarities across all people, the same way any dmt and 5meodmt trip is similar across all people
the "white tunnel" effect is something I've personally had happen when "whiting out" from a high dose of 5meodmt
"talking with long lost loved ones" sounds suspiciously like someone talking to machine elves when they didn't know they were tripping and the set/setting made them color and remember the experience a certain way
I agree.I have long thought that the process of death must be about far more than DMT release in the brain, though DMT is evidently used as a neurotransmitter or at least is produced as a waste product in the body, as it is found in cerebrospinal fluid in trace amounts. There is a study that is linked to in the NPD forum where some researchers induced cardiac arrest in rats and measured the brain activity and presence of DMT. Interestingl;y, they found that for some of the rats, there actually was a flood of DMT, but for some, there wasn't. I'm cautious to try to say that DMT is responsible for this, especially since people aren't reporting endless fractals and other phenomena that recreational DMT use produces. But it's really interesting.
Related reading: https://www.bluelight.org/xf/thread...d-when-dying-new-study-and-discussion.878938/
Theres a lot of reasons - number one is probably that you have just almost died are desperately lonely and the only time anyone thinks you are important is when you tell this silly fucking story about seeing the afterlife. You're 200lbs of flaccid, fishbelly cellulite, you've got no friends, you havn't been laid since Jimmy Carter was president but if I tell this story I'm the next best thing to God!! I know how it feels - I havn't been laid since Carter was president either.
Is everyone who says they've been taken aboard a UFO and had an anal probe telling the truth? No, they're lying.
I'm not judging anyone by the way - but I think NDEs are more about loneliness than anything else.