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Enki said:
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Winter always gets me in this mode of isolating. I've never driven and mid-west winters are a real bear even for those with cars.
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That they are. This winter has been straight up brutal to my area this year as well. I tend to start drinking heavier in the winter. Which is why I'm trying to cut back now. I don't feel like going into spring with a monster tolerance.
 
drug_wench said:
my bfs going to rehab for 4 weeks inpatient inpatient, 4 outpatient, starting monday, for his alcoholism
im going to miss him like crazy but i know its the best thing for him
im so proud of him

why is this stuff legal and cannabis isnt???? :\
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I agree DW, it's crazy how cheap and easy to obtain alcohol is 8) I'll never understand.

Please pass on to Paul that I wish him the best of luck in detox :) He's very lucky to have the support of such a beautiful caring woman <3


I'm thinking of trying naltrexone again...so is my partner (he hasn't tried it before). It didn't really work for me last time, I just kept drinking without getting the euphoria.
I'm not even trying to not drink anymore 8) Fucking weak as piss.
 
I quit nine years ago, never had a drop since - don't miss it at all either. I've tried most drugs out there, but alcohol is the only thing I ever indulged on... I learned from my mistakes though, and my abuse was costly. Did a lot of things I regret - that is for sure.

Now I use opiates in strict moderation, and on a few occasions maybe some cocaine. I'll never go back to drinking, no matter how long I live.
 
thanks, neo - will pass on to him, im sure hell appreciate it!
much luck with the naltrexone or if u try it, topamax
yes i hav heard too that topamax can work very successfully
 
phactor said:
Sorry its Topamax
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Whoa. I've taken it for migraines in the past. Never knew it would help with alcohol cravings. Hmm, this is worth looking into, thanks to you and DW! What is the mechanism of action?

Has anyone used Antabuse/disulfiram? It is a drug that basically makes you VERY nauseous and sick with the intake of any alcohol. Definitely watch out for interactions with this one. I would categorize it as aversion therapy - the deterrent of getting sick might help a lot of people stay away from the bottle.

DW, good luck to your bf - alcoholism can be beaten. I'm glad you met someone special who is also in recovery. The more support that someone with a history of substance abuse has, the better. :) :) :) And you'll always have a designated driver!
 
Mariposa said:
Whoa. I've taken it for migraines in the past. Never knew it would help with alcohol cravings. Hmm, this is worth looking into, thanks to you and DW! What is the mechanism of action?
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All I know is that it stimulates GABA receptors (much like benzos). It lacks the addiction potential though.
 
Went four days sober.. was at work today... my boss, who is great btw, 40, gay, fun and happy to have a good time, offers me some coke as we are finishing shift, i think for a second and then thinnk why not. I ended up doing three lines with him, felt slightly buzzed, a normal persons buzz. After that I bought 50 bucks worth off a guy in the bar. did two fattys and was THERE. fucking having fun... but I started craving the drink...

my friends and i all did 2-3 lines, had some beers and had a good time... anyway they went to bed, and im ADD so i have a hard time sleeping normally, well with a moderate alcohol addiction, anyway, they past out...

im stilled jacked, drinking vodka, cant sleep, cant eat, and i know im going to go through withdrawls tommorrow.... why can't i be normal: do two lines, have three beers and go to bed? i have nothing to run from, no bad childhood, no demons in the closest, yet i run.... yet im afraid and im chasing it.

why do i sit here, halfway high, searching for all the beer in the house and looking for sleeping pills?
 
myles p said:
im stilled jacked, drinking vodka, cant sleep, cant eat, and i know im going to go through withdrawls tommorrow.... why can't i be normal: do two lines, have three beers and go to bed?
Because no one can dude :\

Once I get that taste that's it. I am on a fucking mission to get more at any cost. This is x by a billion when i take speed.
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myles p said:
why do i sit here, halfway high, searching for all the beer in the house and looking for sleeping pills?
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**hAyzzZZ** said:
Because no one can dude

Once I get that taste that's it. I am on a fucking mission to get more at any cost. This is x by a billion when i take speed.
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Dopamine with serotonin is that satisfied ahhhh feeling. Tons of extra dopamine is craving, drive, more, MORE, MOAR! thing. By what I've read. I think it would be a very rare person who doesn't crave heavily on dopamanergic drugs like coke and meth.

Plus the alcohol and other sedatives are wanted to smooth out the stimulation. I don't think success likely on giving up alcohol unless one gives up heavy duty stimulants for a while as well.
 
Only had two beers last night... not bad. One less then I planned to have. Going to stay in this weekend, not really looking foward to it, but it needs to be done.
 
Enki said:
I don't think success likely on giving up alcohol unless one gives up heavy duty stimulants for a while as well.
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I would totally agree, I don't really touch any stimulants anymore, besides caffeine of course. Caffeine can make one crave bad enough (especially if you have some later in the day), I'd hate to think of what it would be like to do a few lines or some amps.
 
phactor said:
Caffeine can make one crave bad enough (especially if you have some later in the day), I'd hate to think of what it would be like to do a few lines or some amps.
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Hmm, I don't get that.
Even using amphs, I only get the urge to drink to try & help me sleep (never works).

Last nite I was damn close .. Even left the house, but decided to spend my $2 on a lotto ticket instead. Goes to a better source +won't kill me.
And I won $5 :D

Once my stash runs out (I found, thought was trashed) today, tho, things will be tougher again. I won't be happy in life until I get through the next few years of poverty, so its horribly tempting to just obliterate them, & me along with it.
 
SilverFeniks said:
Once my stash runs out (I found, thought was trashed) today, tho, things will be tougher again. I won't be happy in life until I get through the next few years of poverty, so its horribly tempting to just obliterate them, & me along with it.
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I feel the same way sometimes, my job is very rewarding but doesn't pay much at all. Its frustrating because I am working with a very at risk population and the job can being very emotionally draining. Most people only make it 2 years in my field.

I'm trying to look cutting back as a way to help save money. Drinking daily is cheaper then most other habits, but it still adds up (especially if you pretty much only drink craft beers like myself).

Also, I'm planning on going to law school and will not be able to drink during this time. I figure its easier for my to break my pattern now. The last thing I need to do is be scrambling to quit the week before my LSAT prep class starts.
 
I think I actually pulled it off!

I posted about a month ago about wanting to make it 100 hours without drinking. To me, it seemed like a monumental task, and though I never followed up in this tread on it, I failed around the 80 hour mark after giving into the WDs and a demand to get more than an hour of sleep at once.

Then I went on this crazy little journey around the world (not kidding, 4 continents, 6 countries in 3 weeks 8o ) and of course that was alcohol fueled. But I was always on the move, and didn't really have enough time to stand still long enough to get caught up in a battle with my own disease. I will say, though...Chinese palm wine => yes.

Anyway, I am currently visiting my mother (who I have not seen in close to 2 years, as we have been living in different hemispheres) and I will not drink as long as I am here. To give a brief backstory, my mother had the misfortunte of being drugged and dateraped ON HER VERY FIRST ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE at 19. So she understandably has a huge thing against alcohol and I will NOT disrespect her by drinking in her home, or being intoxicated inside of it either. I know that I am a scoundral in many ways, but this is one huge step in trying to redeem myself for all of the dumb stuff I've done.

It's day 10 today! I'm way past any physical WDs, and my mind is definately feeling very clear and focused. I've been to a gym for the past 6 days straight, and I am now eating and sleeping much better too. I still am feeling some lingering effects from also being addicted to amphetamines (nerve damage, brain shocks, anxiety, etc.) but it's slowly getting better. I am getting blood and urine work done next week for health insurance (which does seema bit overkill, but whatever...), and it's going to actually be pretty cool not having to worry about anything showing up.

I am doing a few month stint in America, and I am very tempted by the concept of $1.49 for "forties." Maybe at a future date, but as for now I'm doin' good. I hope everyone else is too. Seriously, I know everybody says this, but everyone in the alcoholism thread....If I can do it, you can to.
 
I haven't been drinking for nearly 2 weeks now .. Was damn tempted a couple times, but been too depressed; I'll leave the boozin' to my worthless roomie.

Damn glad I seem to be over it .. I'm doing horrible in other areas, but at least my uncontrollable thoughts are now all clear, and I'm staying physically healthy.

I think it helps to ask yourself (before hitting the store or the morning after) : how will/did this empty bottle improve my life? My health, my wealth?
If you can wake up and say "damn, I'm glad I drank last nite" then I guess all is well. Otherwise ...
 
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