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well i,m a alchoholic! i'm sure i spelled that wrong. but anyways i've been reading this forum for awhile and just found a booze thread. of all the evil thing on this planet i think booze is the worst. i don't think i ever felt a real withdrawl from it but i guess i'm about too! i have no were else to turn. i really only drink in the evening after the kids are in bed, but lately i've been hittin way to early. anyone have any sugestions for a natural dextox?
 
I have drank once since my last post. I was more hostile to the idea of abstinence than I ever was while drinking. I don't want to deprive myself of something I know I can use in moderation with effort.

But this is a last-chance scenario. One wrong move and it's back to abstinence, and not for 30 days this time.

Oddly enough, being on Wellbutrin (which used to make 1 drink feel like 3) has made it so alcohol seems to have only a peripheral effect. I don't get drunk anymore. I may just discontinue it because there appears to be no point!

I haven't craved alcohol since I allowed myself to drink that once. I didn't do or say anything stupid. To be able to enjoy a healthy amount of alcohol - 1-3 glasses of wine/beer/sake a few times a week is a reasonable goal, I think.

Or perhaps I am just in an odd form of denial?

I don't know. But whatever it is, my productivity continues to go up now that I am a "light" drinker. I'm still not allowing myself to buy any spirits or have them kept in the house; those will be for special occasions only.

Bah. Yay. I don't know. :\
 
Mariposa said:
I don't want to deprive myself of something I know I can use in moderation with effort.
... To be able to enjoy a healthy amount of alcohol - 1-3 glasses of wine/beer/sake a few times a week is a reasonable goal, I think.

Or perhaps I am just in an odd form of denial?
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I've wavered on this myself .. I keep thinking, if I can just quit my home drinking and stick to the only acceptable use of alcohol - a pint or two with family or @ a restaurant - I'd be thrilled. That's the only time I actually enjoy alcohol (a tasty porter/stout with good food).
But I haven't reached a point where I can even do that yet; all my normal use is in the name of self-obliteration.

Unfortunately crushing depression + drug withdrawls are hitting hard; since I'm broke, supporting another alcoholic, its back to malnutrition to afford my drug of last resort :\
I'd honestly rather eat a bullet. Starting to look like a better option.
 
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going through withdrawls at the moment... not very fun at all it is time to get back on the wagon

just had a pretty bad anxiety attack... Who would of thought after 3 evenings of drinking? the withdrawls seem to be getting worse eash time. Im young and it is pretty bad, I can't imagine what it is like for someone who has been drinking for years. I feel for you guys.
 
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Hang in there myles <3
Alcohol is an evil drug. I know the withdrawals are awful but you will feel so much better when you get over them. Please stay strong!
 
no drink in 36 hours

woke up seizuring, a few days ago.... i was hardly able to hold the first few cans, but slammed a 6 pack and 3 mgs kpin, and it stopped.

scared me silly/straight, and i was able to taper successfully.
 
PIP maybe you should up your dose of clonazepam while trying to get off the booze? It would be worth it in the long run. I had the DT's after drinking heavily for years and being a full blown alcoholic for about 4 years. From 17 to 21. So anyone who thinks they can't get alcohol WD's at a young age is mistaken.

I was given 40mg's of valium a day for WD's and i got some temazepam too so i could sleep and some oxy to help with the pain as well. That got me off and i stayed off until last year when i started drinking heavy again for awile. Thankfully ive pretty much quite altogether again.

Also if you drink alot i would suggest taking a b-complex vitamin since alcohol depletes thiamine and other b vitamins.
 
I ended up working a tolerance and have been drinking daily for a few months (usually 4 to 6 beers a night). Just decided I need to sober up for a bit so am on the process of tapering, which I usually do when I decide I want to stop or cut back. I'm currently working a very emotionally draining job in the social work field. That combined with the winter made me start to drink more. I'm still functioning fine but I need to start living a little more healthier like I was earlier this year.

some tips I have:

1. When tapering, I like to follow the 3-3-2-2-1-1 pattern (adjust to suit your tolerance. On the first day I drink a beer with a bit higher abv and then switch to a beer with a lower alcohol amount on the second. For example switch from Budweiser (5.0 ABV) to Miller Lite (4.2). That way you have a small reduction in your tolerance even though you are drinking the same amount. Also try to only have one drink an hour, if for nothing else but to teach patience.

2. This sounds nasty but I suggest putting some ice cubes in your glass of beer, I usually only drink good beer so shit like miller or budweiser tastes watery to me anyways. The ice causes you to pour less of your drink and adds additional liquid. Basically it causes you to drink less beer over a longer time. That is a good thing.

3. Have sleeping pills ready and limit your caffeine intake. Lots of people get in the habit of jacking themselves up at work and then drinking themselves down later. Sleep is very important. No shame in knocking yourself out for a few hours. I usually only need one PM dipenhydramine pill to put me to sleep. An otc painkiller is usually nessecary as well. I usually take 300 to 400 milligrams of Ibuprofen a day during a taper.

4. Set limits, don't start drinking to early. I rarely drink before 5 or 6 but those that drink during the day may have problems with this.

5. Have a plan to keep yourself busy. I personally need to start working out again.

6. Try to time your first days off of booze at a time when you aren't busy.

7. Finally and most importantly try to have a good attitude and remind yourself that you can do this and it will all be over soon. You really have to stick too your schedule.

I don't plan on abstaining forever but I would like to get back to drinking only on the weekends. I've done so many times so I know I can do it.

Now if you have a very serious problem and/or abusing other depressents on top of the alcohol its going to require alot more then this. Check yourself into a hospital. Severe alcohol and benzo withdrawal can be fatal.

This is just what I do though to lessen WD and allow me to function. Its not pain free but much more manageable imo.
 
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panic in paradise said:
no drink in 36 hours

woke up seizuring, a few days ago.... i was hardly able to hold the first few cans, but slammed a 6 pack and 3 mgs kpin, and it stopped.

scared me silly/straight, and i was able to taper successfully.
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Scary stuff. Glad to hear you are okay.
 
panic in paradise said:
no drink in 36 hours

woke up seizuring, a few days ago.... i was hardly able to hold the first few cans, but slammed a 6 pack and 3 mgs kpin, and it stopped.

scared me silly/straight, and i was able to taper successfully.
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I remember having a very similar moment when I was 20 coming of a very hard and long bender. Not fun. I wasn't seizing, but probably damn close

Best of luck
 
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Hey phactor, great post! Thanks for sharing your tips.
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Thank you very much.

One thing I forgot to point out is that taking liquids and getting at least something in your stomach really helps as well. I often can only eat breakfast bars in the morning and a light salad at lunch but it is better then nothing. I can usually eat a larger dinner.

As for liquids, water, gatoraide and those vitamin waters (try to stay away from "energy", at least later in the day, because it has caffeine. The grape flavor is full of B vitamins so its really good) and cranberry juice are good.
 
phactor said:
I remember having a very similar moment when I was 20 coming of a very hard and long bender. Not fun. I wasn't seizing, but probably damn close

Best of luck
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yeah, i almost fell on the heater my body was so out of control, maybe not quite seizurs, but i couldnt control my body. no, not fun. heheh

thanks, but fuck luck, fight fight fight, sweat sweat sweat. i have a bottle of cab, but im stikin with the stiky. ;)
 
panic in paradise said:
yeah, i almost fell on the heater my body was so out of control, maybe not quite seizurs, but i couldnt control my body. no, not fun. heheh

thanks, but fuck luck, fight fight fight, sweat sweat sweat. i have a bottle of cab, but im stikin with the stiky. ;)
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Good for you. I only have what I need for my taper (plus a bunch of homebrew that will need more time). I'm drinking so slow and putting ice in my beer (its crappy beer anyways). I think I've had about a total of one beer over 2 1/2 hours. Plenty of sticky as well, but I don't use it all that much anymore. Tonight though I may just have a puff or two
 
The resolve for a period of sobriety has been coming for a while. I made a start, but drank a whole 1.5 ltr bottle of wine yesterday. I feel like shit. I've given lots of advice to other people on quitting. Finding something positive to fill the time vacated by drinking is going to be key. Also keeping the attitude that I'm doing something for myself rather than having feelings of being deprived helps. I have the RR small book around here somewhere, but its energy has a fanaticism about it that is not helpful to me.

I need a social outlet that isn't on a computer. Winter always gets me in this mode of isolating. I've never driven and mid-west winters are a real bear even for those with cars.
 
my bfs going to rehab for 4 weeks inpatient inpatient, 4 outpatient, starting monday, for his alcoholism
im going to miss him like crazy but i know its the best thing for him
im so proud of him
we met at detox, and hes realised he has to go abstinent
cos he doesnt drink, i dont either (actually thats partly cos ur not sposed to drink on suboxone)
the first time i went to detox it was partly for alcohol - i was never psychologically addicted to alcohol but i used it partly to help me come down from meth
my drinks of choice were absinthe and vodka
in detox for the first 3 days they stab ur bum full of thiamine which fucking hurts (if u stiffen ur muscle before they inject ur whole leg cramps up afterwards) but im glad i went in cos being an epileptic i was definitely a candidate for seizures
if id had more self-control and wasnt coming off meth and opiates at the same time i wud hav found phactors advice an excellent way of going about it
i think for anyone who can taper like that thats invaluable advice, phactor
all the best to u and to the rest of u struggling with and/or conquering alcohol - which i believe to b one of the most addictive, destructive drugs out there, after meeting paul and hearing tales from him
why is this stuff legal and cannabis isnt???? :\
 
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