4-Fluoroamphetamine

[muttonchops]

whats the legality of this? I'm assuming its well illegal?

 

[captain codshit]

Class A. I had a slight sore head after sniffing it. I'm actually sure mugs said he experiance the same, pretty clean & euphoric though I'd stick with bombing.

 

[black king]

I've just realised something here, I had about 140mg 4-fa once and then a few hours later dropped a 220mg Green Armani, Now 220mg would be strong but I generally have a high tolerance to MDMA and I can't remember many things ever hitting me so hard (i'm used to taking 250/300mg MDMA in one go), my girlfriend at the time was trying to pay for the bus to work she was so wrecked and also kept thinking she was at work, the same kind of thing I remember getting from pills years ago.

I just spent ages thinking surely I must have tried 4fa with MD and then I remembered this and it was a great combination something I will be repeating very soon now I have realised what was happening. As I have recently remembered 4fa euphoria is great but definitely very short lived and taking supplement doses is not such a great idea.

 

[DS_]

I've just realised something here, I had about 140mg 4-fa once and then a few hours later dropped a 220mg Green Armani, Now 220mg would be strong but I generally have a high tolerance to MDMA and I can't remember many things ever hitting me so hard (i'm used to taking 250/300mg MDMA in one go), my girlfriend at the time was trying to pay for the bus to work she was so wrecked and also kept thinking she was at work, the same kind of thing I remember getting from pills years ago.

I just spent ages thinking surely I must have tried 4fa with MD and then I remembered this and it was a great combination something I will be repeating very soon now I have realised what was happening. As I have recently remembered 4fa euphoria is great but definitely very short lived and taking supplement doses is not such a great idea.

4-FA also gave me MDA style hallucinations. I kept trying to adjust my builders hat while sat at the PC. Madness.

 

[black king]

Yes I know what you mean as after the green armani wore off (sadly we only had one each) then we carried on taking the 4fa pills all day and I was getting amazing hallucinations as the day progressed, that carried on for another 36 hours or so and at one point I could stare at a plain white wall and see black cartoons constantly evolving amongst other things.

 

[effie]

Haha it's sounding more fun now I must say..

 

[YaniCZka]

could anybody guess what the shelf life would be? how stable this is when stored? i hope longer than ketons... cheers.

 

[Istanbeko]

could anybody guess what the shelf life would be? how stable this is when stored? i hope longer than ketons... cheers.

If "the Stuff" is stored in an air-/light/heatprotected Package, than it is at least 3-5 Months stable.


It should never get wet/or should be lied in an opened package or sth. else.



Has anyone "positive" Experiences with snorting the HCl or spraying intranasal in Base-form....

???

 

[Safrolette]

could anybody guess what the shelf life would be? how stable this is when stored? i hope longer than ketons... cheers.

Aren't ketons suppose to have quite a long shelf life, if stored correctly?

 

[Safrolette]

That's what MDMA needs IMO. Some 2c-b, LSD or K thrown in with it. It was ace with meth & I'm sure it's good with 4-FA, any amphetamines make it more rushy! :D

What do you mean when you say "meth"?
Methylone, Methadone, Crystal Meth?
Thanks, cheers

Sorry if it's a silly question x

 

[YaniCZka]

If "the Stuff" is stored in an air-/light/heatprotected Package, than it is at least 3-5 Months stable.

only 3-5 months?????? Shit, thats pretty short shelf life I thought that amphs are quite long lasting. Is this one so different from them? Thanks.

 

[3rd_I_blind]

only 3-5 months?????? Shit, thats pretty short shelf life I thought that amphs are quite long lasting. Is this one so different from them? Thanks.

He said at least 3-5 months, sounds like he might have had some laying around for such a time and it was still perfect or smth?
From personal experience, I can say a capsule of 4-FMP survived for more than 18 months, including a whole night of partying in my jeans back-pocket.
For the stuff in powder form, I usually order quite a large batch and it is at least 6 months until the last of it is administered.
There is no significant loss in potency in that 6 months, so my guess is it would take at least multiple years to lose potency at a level where your stash is becoming worthless.

In other words: Probably storable indefinitely, considering the fact most substances that are nice to use don't remain stored that long.

 

[captain codshit]

Has anyone "positive" Experiences with snorting the HCl or spraying intranasal in Base-form....

???

Like other high purity amphetamines it is not great sniffed, painful after. Not so much the nose but I did get a sore head.

What do you mean when you say "meth"?
Methylone, Methadone, Crystal Meth?
Thanks, cheers

Sorry if it's a silly question x

Crystal Meth. Very very good in combo when peaking on MDMA. Better than standard amp.

TBH 4-FA left a fair bit to be desired. I can definately see it would be excellent with a seratonin releaser like MDMA or something but alone I would say the strong amphetamine sulphate is better.

Also some of the doses in this thread suggested above are a bit mental. I don't think I'd need much more than 120mg in a night really. Note I am a speed fiend usually.

 

[YaniCZka]

Also some of the doses in this thread suggested above are a bit mental. I don't think I'd need much more than 120mg in a night really. Note I am a speed fiend usually.

its rather forgiving substance so even 170mg feels rather easy on body imho. i think that in higher amounts the emphatogenic effects are more pronounced. of course mdma makes it much better (as everything ) but then what is the point of taking 4-fa at all? if i wanna get really smashed i take speed and mdma and party like crazy. 4-fa is for those times when you wanna feel great but dont want to fry your brain. So far (have done 8 times so far) the come down from this stuff is way easier than pillz, meph or m1. The euphoria is (much) less than mdma or meph or even m1 but it feels clean and easy to manage.

 

[roche10]

hi, have tried this stuff a few times and i've got some strange side effects, although im pretty sure i took too much.

i sniffed around 600mg id guess over the space of a few hours

first off the stuff defo ain't supposed to go up your nose! my nose is i cut to shreds on the inside and im pretty sure bits of nose flew out when i blew it!

but yeah the weirdest side effect i got was an absolutey aching head, a real pulsating pain. it happened after a big line. the thing i noticed was that sniffing it hurt more than usual, it started off a bad stinging sensation under my eye (ever get when you do a line and it 'goes up the wrong way' so to speak) .. difference was this progessed into a real bad pulsating headache

the weirder thing was that the headache gradually died off when i stood up, to the point where it was non-exsistant after a few minutes. sitting back down it would return, roughly around the same amount of time it took to die off. this pain lasted for maybe 3 or 4 hours before fucking off!

the next thing was a really sound strange in my ear. when i stook up i'd get the usual slight dizzyness etc, but then i'd start hearing a loud hissing noise, sort of like a untuned radio. it would get quite loud to the point it was hard to hear the tv and music. this happened near enough every time i stood up! it was defo 'in my head' as i could hear the noise just as vividly when my put my fingers in my ears to see if it disappeared!

this strange sound continued on until even after i'd slept, athough it got quiter over time

anyone ever got anything like this? my flat mate got the exact same headache 2 weeks ago, id assumed it was just a normal headache, but it was exactly the same, and came about under the same cirumstances (after a line!)

other than that i got the normal side effects from too much amphets, sligtly tight chest, shortness of breath, general unpleasant wired feeling with bouts of anxiety, and most of all a real bad pounding heart. id say this stuff puts tremendous strain on your heart, it worked mine far harder than any meph speed or mdma has in the past. i feel it through my body for 2 days!

as for the stuff itself, its defo 4fa straight from a quality lab (came with all the safety data sheets etc) so its unlikely ive been sold something else.

while i have noticed a few people saying they got headaches i havent seen anyone mention the specifics (ie just when sitting down, and really intense)

anyone shed any light on this? cheers!

 

[Twigs]

Its not exactly strange that you get side effects when you dose about 4 times higher than normal.
Make sure you do your homework before trying anything new.

 

[Transform]

anyone shed any light on this? cheers!

You took six to eight times the normal dose. This compound is well known to have positive effects which do not scale to larger doses, and side effects which increase sharply as doses get higher.

Please ensure you research your doses better in the future.

 

[roche10]

yeah figured as much. although i read plenty of people eating 200 - 250mg in a bomb?

so basiclly you're saying 150mg will do as much as 250mg?

 

[Transform]

It may not do as much, but 200mg will not be twice as fun as 100mg and the negative effects will be around twice as pronounced. That's a general trend for all drugs after their recreational dose.
I've not heard anyone reccomending doses above 150mg personally, but that just goes to show that neither of us have seen enough anecdotal reports.

 

[roche10]

yeah suppose thats true although i generally tend to take larger doses with most things (both uppers and downers) and not get any more fucked than most people

although i will admit this stuff fucked me up, wasnt nice!