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4-Fluoroamphetamine

so i tried it and its very nice, has way less crazy euphoria than meph, but feels cleaner and one does not look so fucked up. he effects did not last for too long, i would say 3 hours max (but mind you i feel bombed meph only for 90mins).

i would really like to know more about possible health risk though. i remember that meph did not look too dangerous at first either:/
 
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blauwelichten said:
If you dont look fucked up enough you have taken enough yet.
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I take big doses, I have been doing 4-FA regularly since the beginning of 2009, it has never made me look nearly as fucked up as mephedrone, I mean on meph I look like a pill casualty who's been raving for two days straight.

4-FA is much more gentle, you get pupil dilation and sometimes you get some gurning, I never do because I take supplements, but that's it, on mephedrone I have all the stimulant side effects plus a hundred.

Yesterday I took a 300 mgs 4-FA capsule and then snorted more all afternoon, at night I went for dinner at my folks and they didn't notice anything, same at work I can pop a few hundred mgs and no one sees it, when I used to do mephedrone at the office everybody noticed I was on something.
 
That must be some tolerance you've built up there.
The first time I took this stuff I was at a big festival, one of those happy photographer cunts took my picture, and its on the web somewhere, I wouldn't recognise myself if I didn't know it was me.
Photographers at parties, not a good idea at all.
 
blauwelichten said:
That must be some tolerance you've built up there.
The first time I took this stuff I was at a big festival, one of those happy photographer cunts took my picture, and its on the web somewhere, I wouldn't recognise myself if I didn't know it was me.
Photographers at parties, not a good idea at all.
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Probably yes, but the thing is that even with almost constant use mephedrone always made me look I'd been raving for days on end, even in the beginning 4-FA wasn't harsh, apart from some big pupils and a bit of gurning I never got anything more severe.

I never tried a drug that makes me look more mashed up than mephedrone, much much worse that speed or MD.
 
I found this stuff gave me massive head rushes whenever I stood up on the comedown to the point where it felt rather worrying, vision going completely white and almost passing out.

other than that the comedown was very manageable, lethargy and fatigue, depression followed a few days later, only mild depression for a day though very similar to MDMA.

My batch doesn't even have the slightest scent to it and its pure white crystals, however after a 200mg bomb and about 50mg snorted I was a little underwhelmed, yeah I was gurning madly but not much euphoria to speak of, also the effects of this one seem to last up to 10 hours for me whereas everyone else I have seen who has tried it are clearly coming down by the 4th or 5th hour.

On the whole its nice stuff, and even nicer in combo with ketamine ;)
 
i highly recommend using mdma as a combo. It floored me for about an hour.

Dosage: 120 FA to star with, and at T+1 50mg FA 150mg mdma.

Might be a combo for those who have lost the magic!

For those more experienced with thus substance, what would you is the largest dose that you have used. Have read about people doing 200mg as a first does.

Secondly, what is the general feeling you guys have for the maximum amount per session.
 
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I feel maybe I can contribute, for people who have similar experiences to stimulants as I do...

Personally, my heart never does well w/ stimulants, and I get panic attacks, anxiety, etc etc.

4-Fa didn't give me any negative experience at all, quite the contrary, I felt happy, awake, but calm (yes calm), yet energized at the same time. My heart beat was def. raised, but not for much concern.

Overall it was an amazing experience, not quite as euphoric as MDMA, but still quite enjoyable.

I actually was able to get sleep on it toO!
 
supermarket said:
I feel maybe I can contribute, for people who have similar experiences to stimulants as I do...

Personally, my heart never does well w/ stimulants, and I get panic attacks, anxiety, etc etc.

4-Fa didn't give me any negative experience at all, quite the contrary, I felt happy, awake, but calm (yes calm), yet energized at the same time. My heart beat was def. raised, but not for much concern.

Overall it was an amazing experience, not quite as euphoric as MDMA, but still quite enjoyable.

I actually was able to get sleep on it toO!
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Seconded. I managed eat a full meal without strugle on around 175mg. +6 hours after dose.
 
From what I've heard this is fairly "meh" & really wants mixing with other uppers for a proper dunt.. Put me off bothering.
 
Well after +24 hours with my mdma - 4FA combo all I have to say where the fuck are my benzos. Have not slept and have never felt more tired in my life...

As great as a combo it is, blew me away, tread carefully when mixing these two.
 
That's what MDMA needs IMO. Some 2c-b, LSD or K thrown in with it. It was ace with meth & I'm sure it's good with 4-FA, any amphetamines make it more rushy! :D
 
I really like 4FA but it's a bit weird with dose. Probably the best and most enjoyable alternative to MDMA or speed that i've found.

Going on 100mg in a drink was a proper fucking strong come up, amazing euphoria and with a smaller redose turned into such a strong buzz I could barely stand up at the end of the night, was totally monged out with rushes. It's a really nice stimulant though, you really feel the serotonin effects though, it has that proper rushy buzzy feel of MDMA but for me, way less messy and my body didn't overheat anywhere near as much. It doesn't feel too physically rough as well, which is good (perhaps a little hard on the chest area?)

Never done more than like 150-200mg in a night and even that yields a fairly brutal comedown, felt fairly crap for a few days after my first time on it, despite exercise, light and taking 5-htp. It's not the worst crash or anything, just pretty zapping afterwards. My housemate did loads and told me he got proper brain zaps on the comedown, and couldn't stand up, not a good drug to start caining for days IMO.

Would also disagree it needs to be mixed with MDMA or another strong stimulant to work, it's a powerful drug in its own right and I would imagine the comedown from 4-fa as well as E would be pretty horrible. Goes nicely with booze, ket and pot though, like MDMA.
 
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