1 week on 3-FPM
Introduction:
General - I ordered 1 gram of 3-FPM from an online vendor that seemed trustworthy enough. All information below is based on the assumption that I received more or less exactly 1 gram and that the substance was indeed pure 3-FPM (I have no way to know that for sure).
Dosing - Furthermore, I need to mention that I “eyeballed” every dose. This means that the amounts mentioned below are only estimates. However, I chose a set amount to start experimenting with and tried to keep using the same amount for different routes of administration. Additionally, I experimented twice with fractions of that amount and once with a multiple of it. I cannot guarantee that all doses were equal in size, but I was as careful as possible to achieve that. Adding up the total of doses counted and assuming that I really started with 1 gram, I can say with a reasonable certainty that 1 dose was about 40 mg.
Overview of 3-FPM:
Duration (insufflated powder)
- First signs: less than a minute
- Come-up : around 5 minutes
- Duration of peak: 90-120 minutes
- Come-down: N/A
- After-effects: at least 6 hours to well over 24 hours
Dosage (insufflated powder, see “Dosing” in the introduction)
- Light: <15 mg
- Moderate: ~ 15-30 mg
- Heavy: 30-? (my exp. Is with 30-50 mg)
- Very heavy: n/a (my exp. Is with ~80-100 mg, powder dissolved in a saline solution)
Method of administration
- Oral ingestion worked fine for me. The onset on an empty stomach was slow (20-30 minutes). All other effects seemed to not differ from the same dose insufflated. The taste is bad but nothing too bothersome. After drinking a cup or two of water there was no aftertaste.
- Sublingual: Bitter and sour taste. It disappears in about 5 minutes. In comparison, EPH left my mouth numb for about 20-30 minutes.
- Insufflated powder: Fast onset (<1 min). It stings a lot! I can only compare it with crushed caffeine pills, crushed MPH pills, and EPH powder. It felt far worse than the crushed pills, but not as bad as EPH. Additionally, the sting subsides steadily and goes away completely in about 1 minute. An hour later, all ill feelings in the nose were gone. In comparison, a single line of the same size of EPH had my nose hurt for about two weeks and made it feel bruised for another 4 or so weeks. This being said, I am very certain that 3-FPM is really unhealthy for your nose, too.
- Dissolved powder in saline solution (sprayed in the nose): I can highly recommend this way over pure powder insufflation. Onset, Duration and effects are the same, but there is basically no burn. (I dissolved ~500mg in ~10 ml of saline solution)
Effects (subjectively put in an order going from positive to negative)
- Wakefulness: This is present at any dosage. At a light dose 3-FPM seemed to be comparable to ~1-2 cups of strong coffee for a few hours. At a medium dosage and above, any tiredness seemed to disappear completely.
- Chattiness: At doses up to 50mg there was no indication of increased talkativeness. At 80-100 mg I experienced a strong urge to talk/write/share similar to what I have experienced with MPH and EPH lasting for about 90-120 minutes.
- Restlessness (need to do sth.): The higher the dose, the more pronounced was this effect. Even at moderate doses, I could not stand doing nothing. Simply put: I had to find sth. to occupy myself with.
- Inability to sleep: Even moderate doses seemed to prevent me from sleeping for at least 6 hours after intake. 3 heavy doses spaced out over 6 hours, made it absolutely impossible for me to sleep even after 8 hours, despite trying to do so. With two more heavy doses after my sleep attempt, I ended up staying awake for 42 hours.
- Inability to talk normally: At moderate doses, I felt that I was talking “weirdly” with other people. Writing seems perfectly doable even at very high doses but talking is not.
- Kills appetite: Moderate doses strongly decrease the wish to eat. Heavy doses and above basically make you forget about food!
- Laxative properties: Any dose at any route of administration resulted in an urge to shit no later than 45 minutes after intake. The urge increases with the dose taken.
- Urge to redose: This is a purely subjective. At my moderate dose, I felt like taking more 90 or so minutes after the previous dose. At 80-100 mg I wanted to take more every 30 minutes. Still, the urge to redose not nearly as strong as when taking MPH, which made me crave(!) for more in about 30-60 minutes even at the lowest possible recreational dose.
- Vasoconstriction: This side-effect was certainly present. The first night of doing 3-FPM I felt like this effect was significantly more pronounced than on MPH or EPH. Later personal experiments confirmed the effect, but I was not able to tell for sure if it were stronger or weaker than MPH/EPH.
- Headaches: I normally never have headaches! Blackout drunk without puking? – I have a terrible hangover but I have no headaches. Having the flu? – sore muscles, feel like shit, but no headache! Any day I took 3-FPM, I experienced a headache at some point. It was not strong, it did not bother me, but it surprised me since, I headaches are something extremely(!) rare for me. Of course, it is possible that there was some other cause (by far not enough sleep, not drinking enough water, not eating well), but those are all things that I have experienced without 3-FPM, too, and did not cause headaches then.
- Negligence/lack of attentiveness: At moderate doses and above I felt like my thoughts were scattered and I noticed forgetting things, which I just had thought about doing. I would advise against operating heavy machinery (driving!) when doing over 40mg of 3-FPM.
- Comparison to common effects of other stimulants:
- Euphoria: NONE of the doses I took induced even the slightest bit of euphoria!!! The sole reason I even tried this drug (and EPH) was because I wanted to reach that “king of the world” feeling I had on MPH (30mg snorted). EPH was disappointing. 3-FPM did absolutely nothing (although, at 80-100mg I did feel somewhat “fine”). If you are looking for an euphoric stimulant, 3-FPM is not right for you at all.
- Jitteriness: Even at 80-100 mg there was basically, no jitteriness! MPH , EPH and even caffeine at moderate doses make me very jittery. 3-FPM had no such effect to my surprise
- Increased heart rate: This effect seemed very minor even at very heavy doses. Slightly above 1 dose (40mg) of EPH made fear that my beating heart might break my ribs. Well above 2 doses (100+ mg) of 3-FPM caused what I perceived as only a slight increase in heart rate.
- Anxiety: 40+ mg of EPH caused me to become increasingly uneasy (about my current health condition and generally about life). 3-FPM did nothing alike. Even at 100+ mg I felt no uneasiness at all. Honestly, I’d say that even 3 cups of strong of coffee are more fiendish than 3-FPM.
- Unpleasant come-down: I did not experience any unpleasant come-down with 3-FPM on any dose. It simply lingers around for a long while and very slowly fades away. The redose cravings on MPH made me feel somewhat badly. When higher doses of EPH were wearing off, I had a few moments when I almost begged to get this over with, and felt really uneasy for a 1 or 2 hours until I was finally in the mood to fall asleep. Coming down from 3-FPM was a breeze. I never had any ill feelings. The only thing that is somewhat comparable to a come-down is the need to redose. However, at doses up to 50mg, it was rather just a “thought” than it was a “need”. Even at 100+ mg, it was not bothersome, albeit being easy to sneak “just a bit more”.
Problems:
I do not feel competent to comment on any health or mental problems this substance could have.
My personal opinion (based on my “research” and without further elaboration) is that:
- It is most likely (very) addictive if used for a longer period of time.
- It is very harmful to the nose (especially if insufflated as pure powder)
- It is safe to combine with any (semi-reasonable) amount of alcohol
- It makes driving increasingly unsafe at any dose above 30mg
Personal opinion on 3-FPM:
Everything in this post is based solely on my personal experience. However, while anything above is written with the intention to help others understand the substance better and have a hopefully safe and not unpleasant experience with it, everything below simply describes my perception while “high” on 3-FPM. Thus every statement is as subjective as it can get and should not be used to weigh trying this RC. Furthermore, most experiences described below were accompanied with generous amounts of alcohol in addition to 3-FPM.
First and foremost, I did not achieve what I was striving for: the “king of the world” feeling that 30mg MPH in the form of crushed Ritalin pills caused. Euphoria is basically not present with 3-FPM. Only after taking 80-100mg of 3-FPM did I experience some slightly pleasant feeling (as opposed to neutral with 50mg and less).
The most striking aspect of 3-FPM for me was its property to keep me awake no matter what! In my personal experience even doses around 30-40mg kept me completely awake for at least 8 hours. I’d say that 3-FPM is the closest I can imagine to a “sleep-replacement pill”. People on this forum talk about its short-lasting effects while casually mentioning taking some kind of benzos “just in case” before going to bed. Well, I had no benzos… and let me tell you: 3-FPM does not allow you to fall asleep. I experienced trouble falling asleep on similar doses of MPH (30mg) and EPH (30-50mg), and even though I barely drink any caffeine, I occasionally use 2 cups of strong coffee to be able to fall asleep when the caffeine crash hits me (about 2 hours after intake). 3-FPM is a whole different ballpark! 3-FPM and sleep are incompatible! Not only that it is hard to fall asleep even half a day later after a moderate to heavy dose, but you actually feel somewhat alert and awake 24 hours later even if you managed to get some sleep. In my experience 3-FPM is by no means short-acting. Most effects (positive and negative) it has might wear off in one, two… three hours, but the wakefulness remains. I completely agree with other posters, who mentioned that they feel like the wakefulness aspect of 3-FPM compounds with every dose taken in short to medium succession and can linger for a day or two.
A further remarkable aspect of 3-FPM (for me), is its appetite killing property. Even moderate to low heavy doses, suppress any hunger for at least 8-10 hours. It does not mean that I didn’t recall thinking about eating every now and then. It just felt quite insignificant. Eating is possible, but there simply is no desire to do it. Having had three heavy doses in the span of 5-6 hours right after lunch, I only remembered that humans are supposed to eat 20 hours after my last meal. I felt like I could go on without eating (even though my last dose was 14 hours in), but I decided that I probably should have some food before continuing with the 3-FPM… And I guess I was correct since it took another 20 hours until I ate again…
I perceived the physical side-effects of 3-FPM as negligible. As I already mentioned, even stupidly high doses did not produce the sweating, jitteriness, and increased heart rate that other stimulants (MPH, EPH, caffeine) produced in far smaller quantities. Besides moderate to severe vasoconstriction, an increased heart rate was the only other physical effect I felt.
I’d also like to add that I felt no immediate negative mental side-effects (who knows what this stuff does to your brain long-term…). MPH had some unpleasant moments. EPH was downright fiendish… While on shrooms, I’ve seen water flowing up the wall, closets melting and bending if they were made out of hot cheese, creatures trying to break through the wall, and every object around me spinning in around a vortex in the center of my vision, as if there was a whirlpool sucking them in… and I never felt uneasy… EPH on the other hand, made me worry about so many things, and even had me panicked for a few short moments. The only drug that has ever made me feel less “comfortable” was salvia when I took a bong of some 40x extract and saw how some unknown creature was slicing reality in pieces of toast that disappeared into the black void surrounding me…
Last words:
For me 3-FPM is an interesting substance in the sense that it is so different from any other stimulant I have tried. Any dose up to 50 mg had no basically no positive or negative effects other than keep you awake and lessen your appetite. At 80mg and well beyond it, a strong increase in talkativeness appeared, paired with a slightly pleasant overall feeling that I intentionally will not call euphoria, since it really does not compare to the MPH rush at only 30 mg.
Overall, I would not advise against trying 3-FPM a few times and testing its boundaries. However, I certainly will not recommend it – mostly because it basically is a completely unknown chemical compound that can damage your health in god know what ways. At the same, time there are no especially pronounced “fun” effects, even at 100+ mg it is just marginally “fun”.
Addendum:
- I did write all of this while being “high” on 3-FPM
- Apparently it does cause an extreme urge to talk/write/share at very high doses 80+ mg
- While doses up to ~50 mg seem to produce a weak wish to redose, doses beyond 80 mg seem to make you redose without even realizing it. Here it becomes extremely fiendish. For a week , I only took 50 mg max at once and rarely redosed. After doing 80+ mg tonight, I just kept using my saline/3-FPM solution and I am currently at what should be around 400mg in 6 hours according to my calculations!
- Despite the insane amount of 3-FPM I took/am still taking tonight, I still have not experienced any uneasiness or severe physical side-effects.
- My order is almost gone now, I will continue with the “research” tonight and then I am going to flush whatever is left (if anything) down the toilet. I do not intend to be ordering again.
- I will post an update in the next 3 weeks as to how this extreme, and hopefully last experience with 3-FPM went.