With this stuff, by comparison to my other forays into excessive stim use.. the recovery seemed far more hard. It could very well have a lot more to do with my new addition and the fact that one cannot really get REM sleep while being screamed at by an infant lol. But I was just wondering if anyone else felt this crippling amount of physical and mental exhaustion, or if it was more just a combination of things.
I haven't experienced any more exhaustion than I would've, for example, after a night of staying awake. This exhaustion is usually the strongest around 24-36 hours after the last nasal dose (though I didn't feel exhausted after the first few days of using this chem), and is mostly gone after the second night of sleep. My pupils are dilated up to 48 hours after the last dose, not as much as with psychedelics or MDMA, but obviously dilated and they barely react to light.
A brief overview about the symptoms :
- pressure on different areas in the back and front of the head, coming and going, as if there is foreign matter, I would say it is one level below a cluster headache, really unsettling and worrying
- aching joints
- dizzyness
- limited responsiveness to stimuli and other humans
- nausea and very limited appetite (ate well the last day, i.e. one day after the binge)
- no urge to drink, although I am obviously thirsty and dried out
These pretty accurately resemble the after-effects I've had. The differences being
-I only have had light headaches, focused in the back of my head and my neck; not something that I find worrying.
-Not so much aching joints as aching muscles
-Dizzyness and nausea go away almost completely as soon as I eat something
-Nausea is mostly present when I smoke too much cigarettes in a short period of time. I normally light one once every 1-2 hours, but when high on 3-FPM, I have the urge to smoke less than twenty minutes after the previous one. If I give in to the urge I first get nauseous, then after a few minutes I usually end up vomiting, after which I feel better. This is why I've had to keep notes on when I smoke and make sure at least an hour has passed since the last cig.
-Appetite is definitely suppressed, but not to the point where I can't eat (as is the case with most amphetamines IME); I just don't have an urge to.
-It definitely makes my mouth dry, but I always keep a full glass of water next to me.
Rarely see a thread go so fast lol,, beside that waiting for your report, didnt try yet on foil, used my vaponic with like 7-10mg, couldnt say much about. This coupound is obviously having interesting research to make on , as his parent was, but be carefull guys, i feel it much more fiendly than mpa, and with for sure less side effects than most amphetamines so probably a substance made for abuse, that were it start to be wrong. Cautious advised
Sorry, I didn't gain much reliable info on vaping the chemical today
If one is to vape this chemical, one should start with no more than five milligrams and work their way up. I didn't have my milligram-scale with me today so I don't have more specific dosage info than that.
The first effects were felt within 20 seconds or so after exhaling the pretty much tasteless vapour. I might be completely wrong as I have way too little data about this ROA but I think the negative effects (restlessness, etc.) were more pronounced compared to the positive & neutral effects than with other routes of administration I've tried.
I
THINK that there is less residual stimulation left via this route than intranasally, possibly allowing one to fall asleep quicker & sleep a bit better/longer. Currently I'm just basing this on me being much more tired after the last dose than I would be if I'd snorted it, so don't take my word for it!
More information tomorrow, I promise!
EDIT:
This drug gets weirder, sniffed three hundred mg in two hours, barely feel high...last week a tenth of this had greater effect, this is my new batch, same vendor, ordered a week apart, earlier I did seventy five mg, with twenty five mg, four hours later, was clearly stimulated...I'm completely confused at this point.
I'm feeling reduced responses to other stimulants as well, mpa is having a significantly decreased effect as well... Maybe it's just drained my dopamine receptors, I'll be taking some dopa supplements to be safe.
I made a cocktail of mpa,eph and 3fpm..this combination should have me flying, my jaw is tense as Hell but I'm acutely feeling stoned from my weed and twitchy, but not...the high that any of these three stimulants should pricier...
Could it be breaking down in my saline? Will try hundred mg orally after a break to recharge and see what happens.
Hey yaksha, what you're experiencing is most likely tolerance building up, or in other words your brain's dopamine and norepinephrine levels are through the floor. Therefore, no matter how big doses you take, (from my point of view), you won't get any euphoria/rush/high. Your brain is at its limit.
I
REALLY suggest you to take a break, AT LEAST a week (two would be better), while eating healthy, taking vitamin supplements, and the whole works.
I'm sorry for probably sounding like your mother, but please, for the sake of your own health (and possibly your life; we don't know a damn about this substance's toxicity, and there seems to be different batches so you never know what might be left from the synthesis, etc.), give your body some rest.
