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RCs 3F-Phenmetrazine (3-FPM)

There is little to no paranoia from 3-fpm in the lower dose range which for me is 30-80mg. I typically wont get it unless im dosing 150-200mg. I always purchase a benzo though to go with it just in case because I pretty much always take massive doses for euphoria rather than taking small 40mg doses throughout the day. If I want minor stimulation I'll just drink some caffiene. 3-fpm is a very clean stim though when used in reasonable doses.

I found 4-mph to give paranoia in the 30 mg dose. I only used it twice and the first time I ended up doing 3-fpm before I had enough time to gauge effects. The second time I took 2 15 mg pellets and got stimulated but it had zero mood lift and minor paranoia. I didn't like it at all. Who knows if it was the batch or what but I can't see how so many people like it. Just like MPA seemed to be pure stimulation and no euphoria some claimed to get euphoric from it so I guess you never know.
 
This may just be me and not the drug (I haven't read this happening to many other people), but just in-case as a warning - coming down from this (80mg, two 40mg doses over the day) I got a really bad headache (I almost never get headaches) and ended up throwing up a lot. I'm fine now so I don't think it was dangerous, just unpleasant.
 
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i love it, prefer it to amphetamines and even cocaine. But you need to try and use it sparingly. I like the buzz, mixture of dopamine, serotonin and noradrenalin but. I like to start off with decent lines, and then repeat as necessary. I actually find it gets slightly psychedelic at high doses. Pretty modish though, and cheap in the UK.
 
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i found it rubbish at first from a solid source, but i think i was just trialing way too little with each experiment, recently, i wouldn't knock it as long as you have enough to work with...

Is this stuff like phenmetrazine? hypothetical insane iv buzz?
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The only fault I have with the stuff is the relative impotence compared to most stims, which isn't too terrible until it gets combined with the shonky barely-above-Cocaine duration.
The IV hit places this drug in that rare category of those I literally refuse to shoot up again - it will eat organic tissue with ease and induces tremor to an insane degree on top of rattling the visual field like the cam footage from Cloverfield but a decent dose shits all over 99.9% of IV stimulant rushes.
 
Really I injected up to 200mg and just mild euphoria Idk I know its from a reliable source where its gets tested at 99.6% pure . guess al try again tommorow?
 
^ I personally find it far less euphoric than meth or amphetamine or even -phenidates... but also far more compulsive, and far more recreational (it's qualitatively more relaxing, prosocial, less body load and/or physical anxiety, less motor stereotypy/restlessness... In other words the perfect "weekend" stim: sharing a few lines with friends to accompany drinks and chat late into the night. I would have said HDMP-28 would do a good job of this role too, except that it has an unpredictable body load, gets terribly shitty after you redose, and doesn't play to well with other chemicals.

I know everyone loves IVing this drug (everyone loved IVing Preludin too), but it's just... so incredibly damaging to be worth it. It's just an unreasonable amount of drug required to do the job--there's a very good reason why the medical establishment trends towards highly potent full agonist drugs in intravenous applications.

I know I know, everyone already knows how dangerous it is. Just repeating the sentiment.
 
Well, decided to give this one a chance as a functional stimulant. Weighed out 25 mg and split it b/w 3 lines over 2 hours.

Results were great. Got a lot of work done, without a terrible crash. 4 hours after my first dose I was able to fall asleep easily with a small dose of a benzo.

Today I feel some residual stimulation, but it's not bad at all. Very smooth this time, like a nice afterglow. Small urge to redose, but the thought is easily fought off.
 
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I know everyone loves IVing this drug (everyone loved IVing Preludin too), but it's just... so incredibly damaging to be worth it. It's just an unreasonable amount of drug required to do the job--there's a very good reason why the medical establishment trends towards highly potent full agonist drugs in intravenous applications.
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Oh man how I wish I still had all those pretty veins that used to serve me so well before I introduced them to 3F-P. :/ Oh and having used amphetamine on a daily basis for years and having injected all major stimulants, I can safely say this is by far the most euphoric stimulant I know. The rush of 500mg IV surpasses that of IV MDMA doses that will put me to sleep (done up to 100mg per shot), but I suppose that is a very unusual reaction. Most IV users seem to be underwhelmed by 3F-P, with a few exceptions (yes SproutOnSmack, I am thinking of you). I know I've mentioned this before, but I've been off 3F-P for 10 months now and I still crave it very very badly. I recently had a buddy hand me 2g of very fine (free) cocaine and all I kept wishing was that it would turn into 3F-P. It goes like that with pretty much any stimulant I use. That 3F-P rush is just completely insane. Eventhough I managed to not order any since I dumped my remaining 450g into the trash, I still hope it will become illegal where I live so I won't run the risk of ordering it from some public site in a weak moment. No drug has ever wreaked such havoc on my body in such a short amount of time.
 
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Damn. This shit is really hard to stay away from once you start. Spent all day craving it and then decided to do some after I took some benzos (which I was hoping would chill me out and make me stop thinking about it), but that only led to me doing more. I've taken ~60-70mg over the course of the night.

I have work in 3 hours and I'm off 8 from now, thankfully. Only one other person to deal with. Just gonna bomb 60 more and push through with maybe a little bump towards the end and some etizolam (my functional diazepine).

Not feeling that bad or craving at all despite my last real line having been a couple hours ago. Although, I did take a very small (10mg) dose maybe 20 mins ago.

Also, just wanna chime in and say I can't imagine this stuff being any worse for you than meth or crack. Maybe a night or two of binge drinking is more comparable.

Sure, I'd take some good ol' d-amp any day over this stuff (as 3-fpm's main effects only last for 2-3 hours tops and I'm left irritable and withdrawn quickly), but I lost my last dexedrine connect after a breakup.
 
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@SquidInSunglasses

Interesting, cause I just caught a few grams of the last batch a vendor had before they close and its done little to no effect insufflated compared to the usual doses i would use. However, I have spent the last two nights taking charlie so would my mucus membranes need some rest?
 
Im guessing Charlie drained your brain of any possible enjoyment you could get out of 3f. Its really subtle shit, even at high doses.

Im considering flushing it because it stims you for so long that you get a week-long comedown even if you dont use that much...

Its pretty much the opposite of functional and Id rather burn out my dopamine receptors with something that actually gives you a decent buzz if Im going to use something recreationally.
 
I have to disagree about it being subtle, at least the stuff I have been getting in the uk (glass, crystal) and relatively large amounts insufflated. I even find it turns slightly trippy towards the end of a binge. Along with 4f-mph and -Eph at the right doses the best legal stims available in the uk now.
 
If you reach the morally and scientifically questionable conclusion, that it has a similiar monoamine receptor affinity profile as but simply is relatively impotent compared to (even all of the substituted) amphetamines, and therefore leads to the consumption of much higher doses, it is a decent stimulant. :D

The only thing, which prevents one from overdosing, is the corrosiveness.
 
Welp, bit of an update. Managed to ignore my sensible side by using my frugal side, and got one of the many many 5g deals around (not saying which or how much; don't worry). Was doing well on the self control front, using it no more than once a week, usually once a fortnight. Just enough to give me some motivation during the day. I'd then use that day for something like taking the mother for a day out, or doung housework. Stuff I don't usually have the get-up-and-go for.

Until things went tits up. Mum ended up having to go to hospital for a PEG placement (the feeding tube that sticks out your gut). Due to having to be up ridiculously early to make sure the rest of the family was organized for school/college/whatever, as well as having to travel 10 miles on the bus every other day to drop off supplies and pick up dirty laundry, I ended up getting to the point where I was bombing ~75-100mg every other day (used a measuring scoop, not scales).

Burned through 5g in around 2 months, leaving me needing to order more a few days ago.... only to find out that almost nowhere has bulk deals on anymore, due to the impending ban (which I was unaware of). Finally found somewhere with A deal on, not as good as I'd had, but better than full price, and it arrived yesterday... 'cept looking at all that made me realise it's probably the last I'm gonna own. Sad times. Sad times indeed. Gonna have to start rationing.


Tl;dr: Seriously got to have an iron will with this stuff. It's sneaky. Didn't put this in my ramblings, but managed to cut back from once every other day to once every 10 days or longer, so it IS possible. Tolerance hasn't risen any, and it's a good functional stim. Farewell 3-Fluoro-Phenmetrazine, I hardly knew ye.

Addendum: Still kinda worried about the long term effects of repeated doses, but will accept any problems as they come. My own fault. Not yet found anything "safer" that works for me unfortunately :(
 
You're not going to get accurate doses at all using a freaking measuring scoop LOL...

but I can agree with you that this shit is sneaky. I got some coming to me right now it will be here within 20 hours or so.. time to anxiously await it. I'm not getting any sleep tonight...
 
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