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RCs 3F-Phenmetrazine (3-FPM)

serotonin-system said:
Does this stuff have a strong odour/taste? Ie would you be able to slip it in your drink and not notice/remember you put it in there?
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Are you putting it in water or an alcoholic beverage? It has a sort of salty, chemical taste to it. Not that bad, I can handle putting it under my tongue but a lot of people cannot. My friend today was saying it tastes like bug spray in the back of his throat after doing some lines lol.

Mine came in and damn fuck am I high. Contemplating vaping some but I dunno, I know I'll just compulsively redose until its all gone.
 
I really miss 3FPM. And, like cr00k, I gave up so many beautiful veins on my arms to it, loading up multiple barrels with it.

Finally resorting, after getting rid of any useful veins I could see on my arms, to injecting it into the veins on my hands.
 
NiceEnough said:
i love it, prefer it to amphetamines and even cocaine. But you need to try and use it sparingly. I like the buzz, mixture of dopamine, serotonin and noradrenalin but. I like to start off with decent lines, and then repeat as necessary. I actually find it gets slightly psychedelic at high doses. Pretty modish though, and cheap in the UK.
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Aaah, a fellow masochist. Though I would not dare to claim, that I snort decent lines. Frequent screwdriver-tips provide enough pain and kick to keep me on the dubious track. An advantage with this is the relatively calm nature of the alteration. Even after an all-nighter you do not look like a hardcore tweaker, wasted because of the sleep dep. for shure, but not obviously on something like with street speed.

And the come-down is - disregarding the occasional physical after effects (noone knows the dangers of the ingestion) - pretty fair. It feels more drawn out compared to similar compounds (probably because it is a metabolites slingshot),
 
Crashing said:
So if I get some 3-fpm and toss back a lingy, i'm blaming you if it tastes like trash.
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HEY NOW! I didn't say it didn't taste a bit.. like chemicals. It's got a weird, salty/bitter taste going on. Kinda sour. I dunno. I can handle it but my friend I was doing it with said his mouth tasted like bug spray after a few lines, lol. The only chemical's taste that I've ever had a problem with is MDMA.
 
Crashing said:
For a drug, salty/bitter sounds rather palatable.
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Indeed. It's not really bad at all in my opinion. Nothing too over the top.. exactly as you'd expect it to taste, if that makes sense. The appearance is really beautiful too, nice tiny fishscale-esque crystals. Just sublingual'd the rest of my stuff, me and a friend went through a gram in 8 hours or so.. we were doing fat lines though, I'd imagine 50mg maybe even more redosing every hour about. Time for another break, I guess! This stuff's too good.
 
I've been using this pretty much daily for the last week with one or two days off. Insuffilation being the main ROA, with some sublingual here and there. I've fallen in love with 3fpm but it really dose feel like acid to my nose and gums and I'm starting to wonder how much damage I'm doing to them.

Anyone else sniffing this on a regular basis?

Tried oral multiple times and doesn't really do shit IMO, and not got a pipe for vape unfortunately.
 
Ziiirp said:
Aaah, a fellow masochist. Though I would not dare to claim, that I snort decent lines. Frequent screwdriver-tips provide enough pain and kick to keep me on the dubious track. An advantage with this is the relatively calm nature of the alteration. Even after an all-nighter you do not look like a hardcore tweaker, wasted because of the sleep dep. for shure, but not obviously on something like with street speed.

And the come-down is - disregarding the occasional physical after effects (noone knows the dangers of the ingestion) - pretty fair. It feels more drawn out compared to similar compounds (probably because it is a metabolites slingshot),
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Dangers of ingestion you mean possible long term affects on the stomach / organs?
 
greamekeegan said:
Dangers of ingestion you mean possible long term affects on the stomach / organs?
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By ingestion I actually meant application, independent of the ROA. Dangers could be anything, because nothing can be excluded.

Numerous survival reports of administering 500mg IV (whereas 50mg is already a recreational dose) lead me to conjecture, that it has a competitive recreational (therapeutic) index, though.

I will report back regarding the long term effects of irregular high dose use.
 
Strange stuff this 3-Fpm got a gram over new years, whilst on holiday would place very small doses >50mg and as low as 25mg in a small amount of water and than drink it and wash away with fresh water. Got decent stimulation and mild euphoria, went very well with a few beers to keep away the drowsy feeling i get with alcohol which is part of what i am after in a stimulant, a mild boost so i can talk and drink and make music and such, not a huge fan of being overly stimulated.

So this pattern of use carried on for a month using it every 5-6 days with absolutely no problem. Bought 3 more grams with some other RC's and figured this would last me all year as i wasn't redosing more than once and was not significantly upping doses.

I then saw you can vaporise it on tin foil and being curious i tried it, this is where it gets strange because while the smoking was alright, i still felt it was more effective and even harder hitting in a way to just take it orally but i would always smoke more and than more while piling up the negative side effects. I cant seem to take it any other way now i just want to smoke it even though it cant be good for my lungs and it is not the best ROA.

Im through my 3g now after a month where i would take it as soon as i woke up on my day off and hide usage from my GF and generally being very shady despite not enjoying the effects that much and all the while knowing the negatives outweighed the positives for me, it was very compulsive and seemed out of my control.

Not sure my actual point but I would recomend not smoking this and sticking with bombing or drinking it in smaller doses to minimize some of the worst side effects. Quite scary seeing my self control just crumble on me.

And tolerance will build quickly and takes more than a week to go back down not sure how long till my tolerance will take to get back to what it was when i started but it is way up there ATM.
 
I bought 3 grams of this 2 weeks ago and I've been using it daily since.

I bought it as a study aid, and it was great but I just couldn't stop myself from taking it recreationally. I'm just about to take my last dose and I'm so fucking glad. I've always known I lack proper willpower but I somehow fell in love with this drug and could not stop using it constantly. I think the lack of comedown was a big factor. I am going to miss it. If it wasn't for the new ban coming into place I think I'd be on a serious downward spiral.....

Now then, lets see if I get any bad withdrawals?
 
Slightly trippy when over done?

NiceEnough said:
i love it, prefer it to amphetamines and even cocaine. But you need to try and use it sparingly. I like the buzz, mixture of dopamine, serotonin and noradrenalin but. I like to start off with decent lines, and then repeat as necessary. I actually find it gets slightly psychedelic at high doses. Pretty modish though, and cheap in the UK.
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I get what you mean about psychedelic if i binge to me that was 3 grams insufflated over 4 days my depth perception was off, caused by what i can describe as faint swirly cobwebs. But nothing to write home about. Oh, actually on my 3rd night of almost no sleep i swore i could hear a radio being played softly but there was no radio.

I've just binged for 2 days after receiving 10g as the ban was looming, not sure when now. So I've been a bit stupid and just used a tiny headed spoon, with a long handle i use to dish out stuff like Ketamine. But obviously different dencities so but i think it was 1.5g max if that i've had. Got to ration the remainder.
 
Hongla said:
Strange stuff this 3-Fpm got a gram over new years, whilst on holiday would place very small doses >50mg and as low as 25mg in a small amount of water and than drink it and wash away with fresh water. Got decent stimulation and mild euphoria, went very well with a few beers to keep away the drowsy feeling i get with alcohol which is part of what i am after in a stimulant, a mild boost so i can talk and drink and make music and such, not a huge fan of being overly stimulated.

So this pattern of use carried on for a month using it every 5-6 days with absolutely no problem. Bought 3 more grams with some other RC's and figured this would last me all year as i wasn't redosing more than once and was not significantly upping doses.

I then saw you can vaporise it on tin foil and being curious i tried it, this is where it gets strange because while the smoking was alright, i still felt it was more effective and even harder hitting in a way to just take it orally but i would always smoke more and than more while piling up the negative side effects. I cant seem to take it any other way now i just want to smoke it even though it cant be good for my lungs and it is not the best ROA.

Im through my 3g now after a month where i would take it as soon as i woke up on my day off and hide usage from my GF and generally being very shady despite not enjoying the effects that much and all the while knowing the negatives outweighed the positives for me, it was very compulsive and seemed out of my control.

Not sure my actual point but I would recomend not smoking this and sticking with bombing or drinking it in smaller doses to minimize some of the worst side effects. Quite scary seeing my self control just crumble on me.

And tolerance will build quickly and takes more than a week to go back down not sure how long till my tolerance will take to get back to what it was when i started but it is way up there ATM.
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Sounds like something I'll stay away from..
 
After spending a bit of time with this drug for the first time, 1 gram in a few days, i realize that I probably have been sold 3-FPM on multiple occasions when attempting to buy crystal meth.

Having said that, this stuff is way better (and perhaps for the same reason worse) than meth. The only thing comparable to this is 4-MMC, 4-fa, Meth, or 4-MEC (a personal favorite, weird I know).

I'm not even going to try other ROAs after sifting thorough this thread. I like 20-50mg bumps orally throughout the day every couple hours. By the end of the day my girlfriend and I enjoy an glistening erection that is so hard and long lasting it appears to have essentially crystallized.

If that's not addictive, tell me what is! Strangely enough it is nowhere near as compulsive for me as PV's, cathinones, meth, coke, or even amphetamine... yet the high is so much better. I think it's largely because I'm sticking to oral dosing. With the flavor of the 3-FPM high, oral dosing really seems to me like its going to be the most enjoyable overall high. It's definitely better than snorting it imo.
 
Hi Crashing,

did you experience digestion complications when dosing orally ? I imagine it should be pretty harsh on the stomach and triggers acid reflux.I only tried it twice orally and the effects are more laid back than via insufflation. I want to switch to oral or rectal administration, because snorting is way too moreish and dysfunctional lately. :!
 
Does this "go off"? I have some from a few months back, I'm not sure whether it's safe to take.
 
Soon a year will have passed since my last dose. Still I just can't forget about that rush when IV'ing half a gram. Never did a substance have me crave it this badly, except for pot maybe lol. I don't care that much about the IV coke rush or the barely existant IV amphetamine rush, IV MDMA is a close match, but I would still prefer 3FPM over it any day. That's how fucking intense this shit is. Polyneuropathia and thromboses are a good reason for me not to go back though, at times it had me wake up screaming in the middle of the night cause the pain got so bad. IV doses of this size are not advisable at all, can't be said enough times.
 
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