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Phenethylamines [2C-E Subthread] 2C-E Dosage and Methods of Administration

I am a very experienced astronaut. VERY. As in 1/4 gram of k at a time. Or 10 hits of LSD. DMT is great.
Did what I considered a "test" dose of 20 mg 2ce. Blew my f-ing mind. I mean 3D totally immersive OEVs. I've used this metaphor before, but it never applied like this, I felt as if I was dreaming with my eyes wide open. Like a k hole but totally physical and way more lucid. I would go in and out of a disassociative state for 4 hours or so.
At one point I literally though I had transferred my mind into a cybernetic panther and I was some sort of courier in a future Beijing engulfed by sand. I thought I could smell computer viruses on other panthers and my wife said I kept sniffing her. In the experience I had the memories of my life from the trip up to the point in the future I was inside the cybernetic panther. I was completely convinced the experience was real.
Has anyone had such an experience at 20mg? I'm wondering if I need a new scale, it seems to be calibrated well.
 
That's a strong possibility. I'm a gnostic though so there's no dif between the two. The universe is only our perception, so I perceived it so it's real.
So nah!
LOL!
Lily also believed his hallucinations were real, I wonder how that worked out for him.
 
LOL!
Anyway, to stay on topic. Has anyone else had full blown ego loss at only 20 mg? Or anything close to a disassociative experience?
I'm a little nervous here, maybe it wasn't 2ce (although my source is very legit), my scale tested good. Maybe I'm going schitzo? Usually I require very large doses of psychedelics, but only 20 mg totally kicked my ass. I mixed the 20mg w/ tea and drank it.
Man, it was a LOT like a K-hole.
 
i've had quite an intense experience on 20 mg. combined with a bit of pot, add pink floyd, i thought i was never going to be "normal" again. i almost freaked out a little.

other times i have had "visions" of being a homeless man, or an abused wife, or a starving child. i would call this ego dissolution but not full blown death. i don't think i've ever experience ego death. not sure though.

i wouldn't be worried about it though. 20 mg is a good dose. i like to take ~17 mg
 
Apparently its possible, but I've read that smoked 2C's are very unpleasant-- with increased bodyload, overall dirty feel to the trip, and its also very probably quite damaging to the lungs.
 
Beenhead said:
So would you say that 16mg would be a good start or is that on the low end of the spectrum?
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16 is a good starting point if you have any previous psychedelic experience... 16 isn't too pushy but still provides a medium trip. YMMW with this compound though. I gave a close friend 15mg and he was tripping so hard that he had forgotten how to breath until I had calmed him down... while 22 tends to be my sweet spot.

This compound also tends to feel completely different at different doses... but yes.. I'd say 16 is a good start point. If you have no psych experience... maybe try 12 or 14. :)
 
I'd recommend as low as 10mgs for a starter dose if someone doesn't have phenethylamine, preferably other 2c-x experience. While I personally tend to find them somewhat lighter on the mind than most common tryptamines (shrooms, dmt) and lsd, some of my friends have gotten way out there on relatively low doses. 1 of my friends became extremely paranoid then repeatedly balled his eyes out on 10mg of 2c-t-2. Granted, he had a lot of pent up anxieties that needed to come out, but I've seen someone who's taken ~25mg of 2c-e as well as shrooms, dmt, acid, etc... completely lose touch with reality on 8mgs of 2c-e and 10mg 2c-i. I mean talking to people who weren't there, crying uncontrollably, etc. Granted these things are very rare, best to err on the side of caution.

However, in all honesty, if I didn't have a quantity and was only going to have access to it for sure once, I'd probably take 15-18mg
 
Mentat23 said:
LOL!
Anyway, to stay on topic. Has anyone else had full blown ego loss at only 20 mg? Or anything close to a disassociative experience?
I'm a little nervous here, maybe it wasn't 2ce (although my source is very legit), my scale tested good. Maybe I'm going schitzo? Usually I require very large doses of psychedelics, but only 20 mg totally kicked my ass. I mixed the 20mg w/ tea and drank it.
Man, it was a LOT like a K-hole.
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Yes, I had a full-blown +4 ego-loss experience on 18mg (plus piracetam though). You've possibly read the report: http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=48983
 
I definitely remember that terror rabbithole report :)
What does it mean to you in retrospect, Xorkoth? Has it changed you in a way or has it shown you things? How positive or negative was it, I recall it was disturbing but can I safely assume you found it worth it in the end? Please reflect, kind fellow.

edit: By the way what is better, a good dose of 2C-E or an adequate dose of 2C-E on piracetam?
 
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disperado said:
snorting 2ce ive read said it stung like bloody hell, even tho it wasnt a full on dose.
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I believe a lot of people over react with how much it "burns" personally its just a little higher than if you were to snort Mephedrone. (And I have not snorted anything more than two times before I tried 2C-E, 15mg) as for the body load it was a little extreme with throwing up...Ect after the first hour tough it was pretty amazing very intense (for me at least) I would personally do it again, but I believe over all I would def choose oral over nasal when it comes to 2C-E
 
Oral dosages give you more of a well rounded trip. Instead of the punch in the face that snorting it gives you. A trip should be something that is experienced in different stages. And I don't know how you could say it doesn't burn that bad lol. More power to you.
 
I tried 17 mg. It was like super good cid. Nothing like the mind bending ego blast that 20 mg was. Different doses do seem to be SUBSTANTIALLY different.
I am trying 23 next time.
There's a lot of negative reports on snorting. Doesn't seem to be worth it.
 
I've used 2c-e nasally about 5 times now(up to 16mg) and trust me it hurts like HELL. However, while it may not be a pleasent feeling, at least I'm no longer afraid of it. ;)
Don't get me wrong, I'm in no hurry to snort it again, but I'm definately not scared of it anymore.
 
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