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28 year old male. libido pretty much gone since I was around 23

you are right. I guess my fear is that I'm never going to get it back. Like I wanna be able to enjoy good sex before I'm 40 lol quite honestly there's other things in my life that I need to get into place. I figured once I am happier with my situation, cut back on substances maybe it will return
The "rush to the orgasm" is the #1 thing I dislike in sexual partners and frankly I only have patience for people who have patience for sex. A lot of gay men (in my experience) are aiming just for the orgasm, which is sad and not the only thing I want. It's sure great but not everything I'm looking for.

I can't imagine straight people are the same (but maybe they can be?)
 
The "rush to the orgasm" is the #1 thing I dislike in sexual partners and frankly I only have patience for people who have patience for sex. A lot of gay men (in my experience) are aiming just for the orgasm, which is sad and not the only thing I want. It's sure great but not everything I'm looking for.

I can't imagine straight people are the same (but maybe they can be?)
I absolutely agree it's about the journey, not just the destination. What I meant by the rush is that "natural high" you get when you are sexually excited. My issue and concern is that I have the difficulty in enjoying the stimulation while being erect while I am with a girl. I wanna be able to experience pleasure. I know this sounds extremely derogatory but guys would tell me "pussy is pussy, your dick doesn't discriminate." For me I do not feel that is the case. Of course I've never been able to "get lucky" with a girl who I was really attracted to. I also respect the fact that a girl I am with won't necessarily have a "pornstar physique." It seems like some guys can just have sex with women who they really aren't physically attracted to, but again that may not be entirely true as I can only know how my own brain works.
 
I want someone to look good if I'm fucking them... I can't imagine guys don't care what kind of chick they're fucking that's pretty nasty.

But um I don't know what else to say.

@madness00 any thoughts?
 
I want someone to look good if I'm fucking them... I can't imagine guys don't care what kind of chick they're fucking that's pretty nasty.

But um I don't know what else to say.

@madness00 any thoughts?
lol. I'd imagine a lot of these guys might be drinking before hand, who knows
 
People would always tell me my standards are too high. I mean I'm not saying all girls I get with have to be a pornstar
 
I want someone to look good if I'm fucking them... I can't imagine guys don't care what kind of chick they're fucking that's pretty nasty.

But um I don't know what else to say.

@madness00 any thoughts?

Drugs wont really help, over thinking wont help, but in regards to standards and "the journey" what id do is try to explore my kinks on my own and see if theres something that turns me on that i wasn't even aware of. And when you're in the moment just fantasize about that and try to play it out with her if you get the chance.

Does OP have any interesting fetishes or paraphilias?
 
Drugs wont really help, over thinking wont help, but in regards to standards and "the journey" what id do is try to explore my kinks on my own and see if theres something that turns me on that i wasn't even aware of. And when you're in the moment just fantasize about that and try to play it out with her if you get the chance.

Does OP have any interesting fetishes or paraphilias?
Great advice like always. Madness is like a natural SLR guru.

Definitely explore your kinks on your own, get a feel for what you may/may not be into naturally and don't hold any judgments over it.

Be in THAT MOMENT, man, such great advice. That's totally what I do when I go for sex. I'm so glad you have these words madness... I sure as hell didn't yesterday.

<3
 
Drugs wont really help, over thinking wont help, but in regards to standards and "the journey" what id do is try to explore my kinks on my own and see if theres something that turns me on that i wasn't even aware of. And when you're in the moment just fantasize about that and try to play it out with her if you get the chance.

Does OP have any interesting fetishes or paraphilias?
I often feel like I have to imagine the types of porn that I watch in my head. I'm really really trying to get used to using my imagination again. I feel like porn is some sort of mental drug that you build tolerance to
Drugs wont really help, over thinking wont help, but in regards to standards and "the journey" what id do is try to explore my kinks on my own and see if theres something that turns me on that i wasn't even aware of. And when you're in the moment just fantasize about that and try to play it out with her if you get the chance.

Does OP have any interesting fetishes or paraphilias?
there are certain things that I first saw in porn that would turn me on. it's almost as if I need to see or imagine it when I'm having sex. I never imagined in a million years I'd have this issue. Like I should just instantly get turned on by seeing an attractive female like my younger days.

forgot I replied to this lol
 
I often feel like I have to imagine the types of porn that I watch in my head. I'm really really trying to get used to using my imagination again. I feel like porn is some sort of mental drug that you build tolerance to
This would probably qualify as an "obsession" or "fixation" in psychological sexuality. You totally need to stop thinking about scenes of porn, because they are not real. They are pixels on a screen. You were not one of the participants and should not sexualize that in your mind so directly. You're alienating yourself from your own sexuality, if that makes sense IMO.

If you're watching two people in real life have sex then you were there in real life, that may be different. But really you need to place yourself as a participant in your mind. I do believe that is important.

I never imagined in a million years I'd have this issue.
Hey, it's way better to have to deal with something like this... than... oh I don't know my horrible intravenous abuse obsession/fixation. And I still somehow let go of that. It was really fucking hard. But I did it.

If I could do that, I do have faith that you can get back to an organic mental sexuality man. You really can.
 
This would probably qualify as an "obsession" or "fixation" in psychological sexuality. You totally need to stop thinking about scenes of porn, because they are not real. They are pixels on a screen. You were not one of the participants and should not sexualize that in your mind so directly. You're alienating yourself from your own sexuality, if that makes sense IMO.

If you're watching two people in real life have sex then you were there in real life, that may be different. But really you need to place yourself as a participant in your mind. I do believe that is important.


Hey, it's way better to have to deal with something like this... than... oh I don't know my horrible intravenous abuse obsession/fixation. And I still somehow let go of that. It was really fucking hard. But I did it.

If I could do that, I do have faith that you can get back to an organic mental sexuality man. You really can.
I know. I started getting into more "amateur" types of porn stuff that seems more realistic and made by pornhub uploaders lol. the flashy brazzers fake tit stuff got old. granted theres probably a lot of editing going on in those as well. but yes I have to try and actually imagine myself having sex with someone if that's what youre referring to.
 
there is an episode you should watch......... fuck me if I can find a free link though


I watched it. It was very revealing about the human psyche.

I grew up with porn but until I was an adult I had 56k dialup which meant pictures, not video. An afternoon could be dedicated to downloading an album. It might take days or weeks to get a full video game. No way in hell I'd have wasted that much time/bandwidth to one porn video! So I really never watched porn videos until I was already having sex.

I don't think it altered the way I have sex, I have sex very organically (animalistically "like a wolf" I am told; there is a shift in my eyes/actions/behavior when I go into this mode and I have been told this by someone I've had sex with a lot over 12 months now...) but I can imagine it having an effect on other people who exposed themselves to it at a young age.

@tazz20

When did you first start watching porn?
 
there is an episode you should watch......... fuck me if I can find a free link though


I watched it. It was very revealing about the human psyche.

I grew up with porn but until I was an adult I had 56k dialup which meant pictures, not video. An afternoon could be dedicated to downloading an album. It might take days or weeks to get a full video game. No way in hell I'd have wasted that much time/bandwidth to one porn video! So I really never watched porn videos until I was already having sex.

I don't think it altered the way I have sex, I have sex very organically (animalistically "like a wolf" I am told; there is a shift in my eyes/actions/behavior when I go into this mode and I have been told this by someone I've had sex with a lot over 12 months now...) but I can imagine it having an effect on other people who exposed themselves to it at a young age.

@tazz20

When did you first start watching porn?
I discovered images of it probably when I was like 12 probably remember finding the playboy channel when I was like 13 or 14 lol. I wanna say somewhere around those ages. maybe each a year later but you get the idea. definitely interested in watching this
 
This would probably qualify as an "obsession" or "fixation" in psychological sexuality. You totally need to stop thinking about scenes of porn, because they are not real. They are pixels on a screen. You were not one of the participants and should not sexualize that in your mind so directly. You're alienating yourself from your own sexuality, if that makes sense IMO.

If you're watching two people in real life have sex then you were there in real life, that may be different. But really you need to place yourself as a participant in your mind. I do believe that is important.


Hey, it's way better to have to deal with something like this... than... oh I don't know my horrible intravenous abuse obsession/fixation. And I still somehow let go of that. It was really fucking hard. But I did it.

If I could do that, I do have faith that you can get back to an organic mental sexuality man. You really can.
sorry to hear that man :/ hope youre getting through with all your traumas <3
 
sorry to hear that man :/ hope youre getting through with all your traumas <3
Thanks man.

I lost like 7 loved ones over a fifteen month period so I'm not doing too well, but the drug shit I have a much better handle on so that's something. :)
 
This would probably qualify as an "obsession" or "fixation" in psychological sexuality. You totally need to stop thinking about scenes of porn, because they are not real. They are pixels on a screen. You were not one of the participants and should not sexualize that in your mind so directly. You're alienating yourself from your own sexuality, if that makes sense IMO.

If you're watching two people in real life have sex then you were there in real life, that may be different. But really you need to place yourself as a participant in your mind. I do believe that is important.


Hey, it's way better to have to deal with something like this... than... oh I don't know my horrible intravenous abuse obsession/fixation. And I still somehow let go of that. It was really fucking hard. But I did it.

If I could do that, I do have faith that you can get back to an organic mental sexuality man. You really can.
I always noticed that my libido and bloodflow of my dick is lowest at night during the day I can kinda get erections. does this seem off? I know a doctor told me our testosterone is highest in the morning
 
How do I increase my libido? Cos I don't even wake up with morning wood.
 
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