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Phenethylamines [25X-NBOMe Subthread] Comparisons & General Discussion

David the Chansey said:
What is weed like with 25[B,C,D,I]-NBOMe? Would it help with vasoconstriction? And would it prevent nausea/vomiting during the come-up?
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Works very well for me, increases the intensity, makes it easier to drift off and melt into the inner landscape of CEVs. It makes the heavy body-load of 25I more comfortable, or bearable for me, I assume it's vasodilation at work, lower BP, lower heart-rate. Don't really suffer with nausea with NBOMes so can't really answer your last question. Perhaps.
 
Sounds good. I don't mind the body load myself, but I can imagine my friends will. I hope cannabis can relieve it somewhat.
 
just got a hefty stock of 25b,25c,25c,and 25d. i tripped a lot of 4 aco dmt in the last few weekends, 5 dayys ago to i did a 4ac-dt trip waited 4 hours and started eating butylone.iv eaen 2bi 6 times, highest doses at 1350mcg 3 weeks ago. not a big fan of 25i, to much stimulation on onset. two nights ago i IVed butylone twice, and snorted some butylone last night, all while smoking large quanities of pure pb-22. so tonight im doing quailty control with the 25b, complexed blotters, figure im gunna buccal 1.5mg. i hace a super high tolerance and trip every, usually twice, week, on one various RC or another. to say the least i can handle myself, and think a dose even though my first time with 25b, i am failiar with all the 2c-x's, and handled 25i like a champ everytime. so i thinking that would be a good dose, while of course smoking pb-22, il be at home and maybe go out for a walk tonight. ill let you know how it goes :)
 
David the Chansey said:
What's wrong with smoking synths with NBOMes? If I had some I would haha
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Dude, I smoked too much UR-144 one time and woke up having no memory of what date it was, where I was, or anything. I had complete amnesia and regained all my memories over the next couple of hours. There's something wrong with synthetic cannabinoids, specifically the ones in that family. I think the one's closer in structure to THC are probably going to be a lot safer, the non-indole ones.

I definitely wouldn't play with fire (nBOMe) while I'm playing with fire (synth cannabinoid)

The ONLY drug you should mix with an nBOMe is weed or another psychedelic (remember to be smart and experienced with both beforehand)
 
Thanks for the concern, but I personally am not worried about trying weed/synth'noids on an NBOMe, and neither are my friends. I'm more worried about the vasoconstriction, because I know it worries one of my friends in particular. Has anyone got any suggestions to reduce this? Also, approximately what dose of 25I-NBOMe would cause this to be a problem? And finally, are any of 25[B,C,D]-NBOMe more comfortable in this respect? I get the impression that 25I has particularly more body load than the others, but I'd just like to make sure.
 
David the Chansey said:
Thanks for the concern, but I personally am not worried about trying weed/synth'noids on an NBOMe, and neither are my friends. I'm more worried about the vasoconstriction, because I know it worries one of my friends in particular. Has anyone got any suggestions to reduce this? Also, approximately what dose of 25I-NBOMe would cause this to be a problem? And finally, are any of 25[B,C,D]-NBOMe more comfortable in this respect? I get the impression that 25I has particularly more body load than the others, but I'd just like to make sure.
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That's cool that you're worried about that more than coma or organ failure or any the other dangerous side effects that could come as a result of this combo. (Synth'noids do this on their own in overdose in very rare cases, nBOMes have also done this if I recall correctly, so don't tell me the risk doesnt increase when they are done at the same time, I highly doubt they don't potentiate each other.)

Remember folks, don't smoke "synth'noids" on an nBOMe unless you're a reckless drug user (as opposed to a recreational one like myself)
 
25d = courage the cowardly dog

25i = Johnny bravo

25c = animaniacs
 
bloodshed344 said:
Having done Johnny Bravo and Animaniacs, Courage the Cowardly Dog freaks me out honestly... what kind of a description is that?
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What's freaky about Courage the cowardly dog? unless you've been reading through hidden complexity theories, then you can get some pretty weird narratives
 
Well, weed was lovely with 25I-NBOMe. It soothed the muscle tension immediately, and just felt orgasmic. After a few hours, the tension I get with 25I turns into a body high (with or without weed).
 
My solutions of the nbome family seem to not be homogenous. I shake and swirl them before sticking the pipette in, but it somewhat concerns me as i still see small particles in the vortex. Has anyone else encountered thus phenomena? They're in grain, btw.
 
How do the 25x chems differ from the 2cx chems other than potency/dosage. I've done so much research and can only find a cluster of mixed reviews. I expect that because everything effects everyone differently, but I can't come to a consensus from the mess of experiences that I have reviewed.
 
psykedenlitenment said:
My solutions of the nbome family seem to not be homogenous. I shake and swirl them before sticking the pipette in, but it somewhat concerns me as i still see small particles in the vortex. Has anyone else encountered thus phenomena? They're in grain, btw.
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How long have they been in solution for? What volume of liquid, and which liquids are you using?
I have 13mg of 25I & 25C (separately) in 65 drops which is roughly equivalent to 3ml. This is just dH2O. While it took a lot of time to dissolve the 25I - about 50 hours, shook probably 5-10 times in this period quite vigorously - none if it has precipitated out at all. 25C dissolved very easily, no residue was left after 3hours, about 1 hour of that was shaking & moving though. Again no precipitation. Mine have been left for a while now and they haven't ppt'd yet. Do make sure it's fully dissolved to get proper dosage.


WrekoN9ne said:
How do the 25x chems differ from the 2cx chems other than potency/dosage. I've done so much research and can only find a cluster of mixed reviews. I expect that because everything effects everyone differently, but I can't come to a consensus from the mess of experiences that I have reviewed.
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Can't answer this fully, but redosing is practically useless from what i've heard due to the rapid tolerance. Tolerance seems to be much stronger and longer lasting than most psychedelics
 
MrPorter said:
How long have they been in solution for? What volume of liquid, and which liquids are you using?
I have 13mg of 25I & 25C (separately) in 65 drops which is roughly equivalent to 3ml. This is just dH2O. While it took a lot of time to dissolve the 25I - about 50 hours, shook probably 5-10 times in this period quite vigorously - none if it has precipitated out at all. 25C dissolved very easily, no residue was left after 3hours, about 1 hour of that was shaking & moving though. Again no precipitation. Mine have been left for a while now and they haven't ppt'd yet. Do make sure it's fully dissolved to get proper dosage.

All my nbome products are in 1:1 with grain alcohol as the laying medium. With 25I, I added 20 ml white vinegar, thinking I maybe had freebase, but it's physical conditions didn't/haven't changed. They've been kept for nearing a year in their current state. When I DO lay a blotter, I agitate the solution and pipette it up as immediately as I can to ensure an mixed laying medium. In the worst case scenario, I'm currently under-dosing (?). I really haven't touched them since the new year, but have had rewarding experiences with the handful of times I've experimented. I'm not sure they've pp'd out, but I CAN see the particles when the agitation begins to slow.
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What exactly are you guys using to store your solutions?

I have 10mg of 25i HCl I am going to dissolve in 2ml of 40%abv vodka but havent been able to find any sort of suitable container other than serum vials and I can only seem to find them in bulk online which is severely beyond my needs. Obviously whatever it is has to be well sealed to prevent any evaporation.. I've yet to try it, but given that some people get floored by 500ugs there is a potential I'll have 20 doses which quite honestly should last me upto 2 years or more. However for the cost I won't cry if it turns to shit, but i highly doubt I'll be using it all that much unless I truly fall in love, but there are so many other compounds I wish to try. I mean theres also the chance that I'll need 1-2mg to feel anything.

Also I have a question about what you guys think about the deaths/hospitalizations at extremely low or supposed threshhold levels? Its pretty clear that not only do these drugs have a very steep dose/effect curve, but that individual tolerances vary widely. I've so far only really read about problems with 25i, do you think that could be because its a full agonist for the 5ht2a receptor and because of its limited receptor interaction, combined with genetic variaces, is the reason for the extreme variance in doses required? As far as people have seriously bad trips and or being hospitalized I feel as if I must take those circumstances with a grain of salt, typically nothing else about the person is mentioned, whether theyre on any other drugs that may have caused interactions and so on and so forth.. I've known plenty people in my life on anti depressants and other crap taking any drug under the sun without a single thought to interactions and what not.. some of them just seem so highly suspect.
 
infantannihilator said:
What exactly are you guys using to store your solutions?
do you think that could be because its a full agonist for the 5ht2a receptor and because of its limited receptor interaction, combined with genetic variaces, is the reason for the extreme variance in doses required? As far as people have seriously bad trips and or being hospitalized I feel as if I must take those circumstances with a grain of salt, typically nothing else about the person is mentioned, whether theyre on any other drugs that may have caused interactions and so on and so forth.. I've known plenty people in my life on anti depressants and other crap taking any drug under the sun without a single thought to interactions and what not.. some of them just seem so highly suspect.
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I don't think anyone can say for certain what the cause for variance is but I think that what you're getting it is the general theory behind it, the stories often do give suspiciously little info, it makes a better scare story to say 25I killed someone then to say someone died while, mixing 25I with alcohol, MDMA, speed, coke etc. having said that, always far better to err on the side of caution if you ask me.

Anyone know why someone might not be able to get high off 25C specifically? I've worked my way up to dosing 1.5mg bucally with complexed blotters (after waiting for tolerance to reset) and nothing except agitation, yet 25I and 25B via the same ROA cause me to trip hard with 1mg, they're all from the same vendor, any ideas?

25C was also the one I was looking forward to the most as well :(
 
Lazaraus45 said:
I don't think anyone can say for certain what the cause for variance is but I think that what you're getting it is the general theory behind it, the stories often do give suspiciously little info, it makes a better scare story to say 25I killed someone then to say someone died while, mixing 25I with alcohol, MDMA, speed, coke etc. having said that, always far better to err on the side of caution if you ask me.

Anyone know why someone might not be able to get high off 25C specifically? I've worked my way up to dosing 1.5mg bucally with complexed blotters (after waiting for tolerance to reset) and nothing except agitation, yet 25I and 25B via the same ROA cause me to trip hard with 1mg, they're all from the same vendor, any ideas?

25C was also the one I was looking forward to the most as well :(
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My friend had the same problem with 25C, and had to push the dose past 10 mg to feel any real effects. In hindsight, not worth it at all and potentially dangerous.
 
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