RCs 2-FMA (2-Fluoromethamphetamine) - Megathread

[HighestWhenLow]

I figured I would make this post as I am not sure how many people have done as much 2-fma as me, anyway after plugging aprox 300-800mg at a time several times every 24 hours with small breaks here and there for a few months of my life (on top of heavy use before) I noticed some serious effects that methamphetamine on its own never produced (however I never quite used meth for as long I tended to go harder nd longer without food or sleep, I noticed meth never had much of a cross tolerance with 2-fma, however there is some for sure). On to the main side effects:

Anyway I know these effects are for the most part in parallel to what amphetamines do to your body I would just like to note most likely 2-fma and DEFINATELY 4-fma are far worse for your body then meth, and that research should be done into these compounds into what the fuck they might be doing to our cardiovascular system and even brain that meth isnt.

Its nice having someone as extensively experienced with 2-fma as you are chime in on this thread, but I gotta wonder if you have any support or evidence for your blanket statement that 2/4-fma is more harmful than street meth, besides your personall experiences of course.

Consider this: for someone with absolutely zero amphetamine or drug tolerance, the oral dosages would be roughly equivalent, with 10mg of 2-fma being a good starter dose (as was the case with myself and several others I know) and meth being active orally at 5-15mg according to Erowid.

Now look at your anecdotes. If we're comparing 2/4-fma to meth, then would someone plugging 300-800mg of meth several times a day for "a few months" be in better shape than you currently are? I've never used street meth, but my common sense says anyone using meth that way wouldn't last a month.

 

[Nimhod]

Does anyone here have any kind of remedy / way to minimalize the up and down mood changes? Even the first few times I've tried 2-FMA , I'd eventually get this strange negative feeling that is extremely uncomfortable and brings down my mood temporarily. I just want to stop whatever I'm doing and do nothing until it goes away which hinders productivity.

My main hope is that 2-FMA is roughly as harmful as prescription stimulants like dexedrine or Adderall. We desperately need some human studies on this class of drugs since people (me included) are using them daily.

I agree entirely.

 

[HighestWhenLow]

Does anyone here have any kind of remedy / way to minimalize the up and down mood changes? Even the first few times I've tried 2-FMA , I'd eventually get this strange negative feeling that is extremely uncomfortable and brings down my mood temporarily. I just want to stop whatever I'm doing and do nothing until it goes away which hinders productivity.

Sleep and spacing out 2-fma experiences are probably the simplest solutions. As far as I can tell, the negative effects of 2-fma can be largely eliminated by spacing out uses even by as little as 5-7 days, and it definitely doesn't seem to require as long of a waiting period as stronger monoamine releasers or even as long as 4-fa, which I have found really should be spaced out by at least 2 weeks between uses.

2-FMA is one of the few drugs I can combine with cannabis w/out freaking out lol. 800 mg might be a different story though

It's interesting you like the 2-fma & weed combo, my experiences have left me feeling the exact opposite haha. 4-fa for me is phenomenal with a bit of high-grade herb, and to a lesser extent I find 4-fma goes nicely with weed.

2-fma and marijuana, however, makes me prone to some intense paranoia and also negates the productivity-boosting effects of 2-fma while simultaneously preventing me from falling into a nice, content and relaxed pot high.

 

[Nimhod]

Appreciate the replies. Sleep and water are definitely what I'm least concerned about , as I make sure to get ample amounts of both. Vitamin wise though , what should I be looking to get? I already use vitamin B6/B12 and am probably going to get some magnesium as well. Will be spacing out usage as well for good measure.

Also, from what I understand, using antacids / baking soda aids in slowing excretion of amphetamine. Anyone have any experience with doing this with 2-FMA? Sounds potentially useful as it could stop one from redosing as often.

 

[Crashing]

I originally had claimed that 2-fma was kind of shitty, but upon getting a job working overnights and having a couple stints with it over the past few months, i have realized that it's potential is absolutely incredible. If this shit is safer than adderall by any chance, it's a fucking goddamned miracle.

When used throughout a 9 hour period, dosing 2-3 times in the former half, this compound is fantastic for getting things done. By the time i go home, i eat and sleep fine. I've found that the more I take, either at once or throughout the night, the longer it lasts. The effects don't really get stronger, though. It's more like... I get what I get with it, and that is energy, focus, and wakefulness for 6-10 hours.

 

[HighestWhenLow]

I've found that the more I take, either at once or throughout the night, the longer it lasts. The effects don't really get stronger, though. It's more like... I get what I get with it, and that is energy, focus, and wakefulness for 6-10 hours.

Well said, I've read other reports that also describe a ceiling-effect on 2-fma's desired effects, meaning that taking more creates greater effects only up to a certain point, at which point increased dosing only increases peripheral side-effects and duration.

@Nimhod: My experience with potentiating amphetamines with antacids was that the neutral and negative effects of the drug (racing heart, vasoconstriction, anxiety etc.) are potentiated much more than the pleasurable effects, and I've read many anecdotal reports that have also suggested this. Obviously this is all subjective, but I would suggest avoiding highly acidic foods and eating a more alkaline diet instead of using antacids.

 

[alkz]

I am a huge fan of this chemical.
At 30mg notice a strong yet very fluid euphoria that lasts 80 minutes after dosing which then tapers off into a residual stimulation that can last up to 10 hours.
It is a very adaptable chemical as I can take this at parties with dosages like 30mg every hour or two.
I have also mixed MDMA with 2-FMA and it was incredible but I acknowledge also dangerous.
The other use for it is studying which I use at doses of 15mg taken every 80 minutes.
Concentration is increased a lot (especially at maths) and studying or writing is a pleasure.
Today for example I did 5 hours continuous study with the stuff.
As far as comedowns , they are basically nonexistent with this as it very gently tapers off.
I am planning on dosing this relatively high for the next 3 days due to exams and will report further when they are done.

 

[alkz]

Ok here is an update.
I ceased dosing early in the second day as negative effects became massively evident.
Every time I stood up I would get a very intense head rush along with very concerning tinnitus.
Hallucinations in my peripheral vision where also becoming more frequent.
I still love 2-fma though

 

[Issac Sinclair]

I have used adderall, dex, meth, ritalin, 4fa and tons of stimulants like modafinil and seleguline.
Are you looking for a meth replacement? Don't get 2FMA!
Its a very smooth and comfortable high that lasted the whole day when I smoked it. Very pleasant feeling, like modafinil but better, not fun at all though. It feels like a blanket of energy, not tweaky adderall energy or even dexedrine energy, its closer to modafinil than anything else. Not fun at all, I want to emphasize this. Adderall is fun, 4FA is fun, but this is nothing more than an all day coffee to me, without the tweaky feeling.

Highwhenlow's report is very accurate, but I have no problems with redosing. It lasts too long, its not for me.

Its a functional stimulant with no real enjoyable effect at least when I smoked it. I'll update it if I change my mind.

 

[Lady Codone]

^ Interesting you don't find it "fun", Issac! I guess I don't really either, but there is some euphoria at times...the euphoria of not feeling like an exhausted zombie, which is my natural state of being.

My main complaint right now w/ this chem is how tense it makes me. My doses are insanely small and spaced out over the day, but I still get some dysphoric tweakiness from it. Jaw clenching, tight leg muscles, restlessness, etc. I feel bored but nothing sounds fun. Hard to describe.

Wish I could try Adderall or dex for comparison. You're right about it being nothing like meth though

 

[tweex]

Got a couple questions...

Does anyone know if (pure) 2-FMA will react to (common) field test kits for illicit substances?

Does anyone know if 2-FMA falls under the Federal Analog Act or not?

From 21 U.S.C. § 802:
(i) the chemical structure of which is substantially similar to the chemical structure of a controlled substance in schedule I or II;
(ii) which has a stimulant, depressant, or hallucinogenic effect on the central nervous system that is substantially similar to or greater than the stimulant, depressant, or hallucinogenic effect on the central nervous system of a controlled substance in schedule I or II; or
(iii) with respect to a particular person, which such person represents or intends to have a stimulant, depressant, or hallucinogenic effect on the central nervous system that is substantially similar to or greater than the stimulant, depressant, or hallucinogenic effect on the central nervous system of a controlled substance in schedule I or II.


Seems to fit (i) completely given only difference to meth is a couple fluorines... but for sections (ii) and (iii)... IDK sorta kind maybe a bit like meth and d-amp... but to a great enough extent to be an issue!? IDK!?

I'm possibly interested in using it for non-recreational purposes as a mental performance enhancer.

 

[borega]

legal questions are not allowed here.

As for the testing kits, I tested it with marquis and it didnt rly come up with anything, maybe some very very slight orange at best!

 

[bob_arctor]

I'd like to throw out a question about 2-FMA in comparison to 2-FA; am I the only one the experiences 2-FMA as _way_ more vasoconstrictive (cold hands/feet, sometimes almost painfully so) than it's cousin? I think I've come to favor 2-FA over 2-FMA in regards to the transparency of effects as well - 2-FMA might be functional, but when it comes to cognitive labour I think my thought processes become noticeably muddled.

And in connection to this, I'd like to know how you deal with vasoconstriction (I'm currently using 5x piper nigrum extract in capsules, L-arginine, and taking regular breaks with some exercises - sometimes theobromine capsules as well - but still find the vasoconstriction irritating)

 

[tweex]

I'd like to throw out a question about 2-FMA in comparison to 2-FA; am I the only one the experiences 2-FMA as _way_ more vasoconstrictive (cold hands/feet, sometimes almost painfully so) than it's cousin? I think I've come to favor 2-FA over 2-FMA in regards to the transparency of effects as well - 2-FMA might be functional, but when it comes to cognitive labour I think my thought processes become noticeably muddled.

And in connection to this, I'd like to know how you deal with vasoconstriction (I'm currently using 5x piper nigrum extract in capsules, L-arginine, and taking regular breaks with some exercises - sometimes theobromine capsules as well - but still find the vasoconstriction irritating)

Might give guanfacine or clonidine a try.

And just two cents on the legal status, the only case I found where someone was arrested with 2-FMA ended with charges being dropped.

 

[Lady Codone]

Being an amphetamine, 2-FMA will likely test positive in a field test (which are generally non-specific). They could take your ass to jail but the charges might not stick once it's sent to a legit lab.

Anyway, not much new to report on my end. Still taking low doses of 2-FMA 5 days a week and finding it effective for boosting productivity/energy. My mood is a little unpredictable on it, but can't be sure that's the cause. Hoping to try some 2-FA soon to see how it compares.

 

[phactor]

I will second that this would likely test positive for amp.

 

[change-jug]

I'd like to throw out a question about 2-FMA in comparison to 2-FA; am I the only one the experiences 2-FMA as _way_ more vasoconstrictive (cold hands/feet, sometimes almost painfully so) than it's cousin? I think I've come to favor 2-FA over 2-FMA in regards to the transparency of effects as well - 2-FMA might be functional, but when it comes to cognitive labour I think my thought processes become noticeably muddled.

And in connection to this, I'd like to know how you deal with vasoconstriction (I'm currently using 5x piper nigrum extract in capsules, L-arginine, and taking regular breaks with some exercises - sometimes theobromine capsules as well - but still find the vasoconstriction irritating)

When ever I first start taking either 2-FA or 2-FMA I notice some vasoconstriction. I normally take a combo of 1 aspirin,2 or 3 B complex vitamins,a multi-vitamin and when I can get it(i.e. steal it from work)I wash it all down with a medical grade powdered L-arginine supplement called Arginaid. Kind of seems like a lot of shit to take all at once now that I type it out. LOL But it does really help out with the cold hands/feet,at least for me.

I do notice that after using 2-FA/FMA a few days in a row the vasoconstriction goes away for the most part.

 

[tweex]

Figure I'll give it a try. I've got a tiny quantity on order, and of course use Vitamin C/PQQ/Methylene Blue/Aspirin/Lucidril/Memantine.

I'll also try picking up a field test kit and see if it tests positive, and test common solubilities.

Will report back soon.

 

[tweex]

Got my 2-FMA. Experience listed under trip reports. Recommended

www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/685198-2-FMA-30mg-This-stuff-is-like-a-nootropic!?p=11725513

 

[tweex]

So this is interesting, and a bit unexpected. I got a chance to try reacting 2-FMA with Marquis reagent (bag #2). Bag #1 is d-meth for reference. These are each 5mg in 200 micoliters of Marquis, let to react for several minutes. The d-meth did the classic orange->brown inside a minute. 2-FMA starts clear, and slowly goes to light yellow after a minute or so.

Clearly, this stuff tests negative for amphetamines on Marquis Reagent. Interesting info for those out walking around with a baggie of it. %)

Still may be mistaken for MDPV or Methylone though, I have not seen them react in person but they are described as being light yellow.