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RCs 2-FMA (2-Fluoromethamphetamine) - Megathread

2FMA is much more research paper oriented, on 4FA i was able to learn 16 cover songs on my bass in 1 night, redosing periodically.. which is pretty nuts imo..definitely gave me the energy and focus. 2FMA feels more mathematical and 4FA feels more like creative energy.

I definitely agree with this comparison of these two fluorinated amps subjective effects. On 4-FA I get very creative and am often inspired to write stuff I would never dream up on 2-FMA (or soberly), probably because the empathic qualities of 4-FA allow for new thought patterns while the dopamine release provides some focus to the 4-FA euphoria.

On 2-FMA I crave task completion, I seriously get off from making To-Do lists of every little thing I know I could get done and crossing things off that list, but I've never felt inspired or experienced any mind-expanding qualities from 2-FMA.

For your purposes, I would say 2-FMA for gaming or repetitive tasks and 4-FA for songwriting. I would imagine the 4-FA euphoria might be distracting for gaming, plus since it is a serotonin releaser I would suggest saving it for something special like songwriting and not mindless gaming
 
has anyone tried a proper IV speedball with 2 FMA?

I've plugged it alongside morphine, methadone, diconal and oxycodone and all have given me amazing rushes.
 
Lasts longer than meth (the useful parts). A good long time..
Little to no comedown with proper nutrition
Cracks back like glue in the pipe and takes 5-10 sec. (In contrast with 4-fma - which comes back completely clear (blew my roommates mind))
More appetite supression than meth (i assume due to PNS stimulation from levo-2fma.)
More paranoia than meth (at times)
I literally did not need or want sleep for 3 days. Then my body had finally had enough and the ettects just lost their reward-induced reinforcement and I slept and ate fine.

This stuff release maassive DA and Ne. I feel like d-meth's serotonergic effects kind of act as cushion/insulation to the socalled wild west of exponential ininhibited DA in the synapse. iv route is preferred due to massive rush but itll guaruntee you look/act spun all day(and night).

Order of fav routes: IV, oral, vape off foil, sweet puff, sniffed. If i was a plugger id proll get my jollys at the same mg's iv.

Its not meth. You need alot more for a rush followed by really analytical type thinking (excellent study aid in lowest oral doses - large amts might affect memory.

Overall I prefer it to dmeth when ivd. Less crazyness. But for smoking d-meth wins. Its just as moreish if not moreso. Only consequences of extra high doses are high blood pressure and pulse. Also with medium-high doses there are some visual effects (hard to describe, different than intense colors/blurry speed vision.)
 
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I really don't see any comparison to this stuff and meth at all, actually. This is probably the worst substituted amphetamine I've tried for productivity as well as the least euphoric.

Buuut I'm in fiend mode. Thinking about combining 30mg orally with 600mg gabapentin and maybe some etizolam.
 
For the sake of keeping this thread alive, I'll post some more insights regarding 2-FMA that might be of worth to some. This thread is virtually the only solid body of anecdotal information about 2-FMA anywhere on the web (not a single report on Erowid, nothing accurate or useful on other forums and not much on BL besides this), so let's try to keep the ball rolling.

The initial reduction in effects from dosing on consecutive days occurs after about 2-3 days of repeated use, as is the case with most any drug ever. After this, however, this "new" level of effects can be recreated on consecutive days (or weeks even) from the same amount of 2-FMA for pretty much as long as you care to continue dosing. I've been using 20mg oral in the morning on an empty stomach before my hour-long daily commute to work, and the effects are consistent every day.

Any redosing, however, consistently produces greatly diminished effects during periods of prolonged use. What I mean is that, as I stated above, I get the same effects from my daily 20mg morning dose every single day. A second (or third or fourth) dose of the same or greater amount as the initial dose, however, produces significantly diminished effects. It's as if the brain recharges enough overnight to allow the first dose of a day to work properly, but there's not enough recovery time within a single day for subsequent doses to be as effective.

Also, during periods of prolonged daily use I've found the effects I experienced on the first couple days of using 2-FMA with zero tolerance CANNOT be recreated no matter how high you push the dose. For example, if I haven't used 2-FMA in a month or more and take 20mg oral it produces focus, mood-lift and other dopaminergic effects similar to d-amphetamine but much, much smoother. The same dose taken the next day will have more or less the same effects, and on the third day these effects can be recreated with a slightly higher dose (30-40mg). After the 2nd or 3rd day however, oral doses as high as 60 or 80 mg will not reproduce the same elevated mood or productive focus and instead result in over-stimulation and insomnia.

If you plan on using 2-FMA for extended periods of time, you have to accept that it will not feel as good as it did the first day or two of dosing and not try to chase that initial high or you'll end up overstimulated and not be satisfied. That being said, 2-FMA has been fantastic for me over the last month or so, with my use being daily on weekdays and taking a break from it on weekends. Far more functional and sustainable than daily d-amphetamine use IMO, you just have to find the lowest dose that provides desired effects and is still functional and not try to push the limits.

Also, all of this only applies to oral dosing. Nasal doses seem to be qualitatively different than oral doses and I suspect that, as some others on this thread have speculated, that something in the metabolization process causes oral and nasal doses to essentially be different drugs in terms of effects and side-effects. I don't find nasal dosing to be sustainable over multiple days due to excessive side-effects and "sketched-out" feelings and greater feelings of neurotransmitter depletion.
 
So my last batch of 2-FMA (from a reputable source) caused all kinds of worrying side effects. Sore muscles, burning urination, stomach pain, back pain and other weird stuff. The lower back pain got so bad I ended up in the ER thinking it was a kidney stone or smtg (no stones showed up on tests). I drink about a gallon of water a day--sometimes more--so I don't think it's dehydration. Just got sent home with Lortabs and "take it easy" orders. No real answers.

2-FMA might not even be to blame, but the more I used it the worse the symptoms got. Never had anything resembling this from 4-FA or any of the other stimulants I use. I was using about 20-35 mg of 2-FMA plus about a half-gram of kratom per day at the time.

Take this post as you will. I haven't seen any similar reports so it's probably just my weird body reacting poorly. Still worth mentioning though.

@ Hatrix - How does one "plug" something like 4-FA? Does it burn as bad as snorting? (God I hope not). Ever try plugging 2-FMA? I get horrid stomach acid from it and wonder if plugging might help.
 
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For the sake of keeping this thread alive, I'll post some more insights regarding 2-FMA that might be of worth to some. This thread is virtually the only solid body of anecdotal information about 2-FMA anywhere on the web (not a single report on Erowid, nothing accurate or useful on other forums and not much on BL besides this), so let's try to keep the ball rolling.

Hear hear! That's a very good point, and inspired me to contribute a bit with my experiences with 2-FMA:

In my search for a legal alternative to Adderall/Vyvanse, I came across 2-FMA and have tried it many times. I would typically dose 20-30mg (in a gel cap) right after eating a light breakfast. Within an hour, I noticed being more alert, sweaty palms, increased heart rate - the typical physical affects of a PNS stimulant. I never really got that "push" or "urge" to get work done like I do with Adderall/Vyvanse, which is what I was hoping it would do. For me, low doses of 4-FA make a better (albeit not wonderful) substitute for when my monthly meds run out early.

The few times I tried 50mg, thinking it would give me that rewarding push, I just got uncomfortably stimulated and wished I had taken a bit less.

I do like that one dose lasts 12 hours, and there is virtually no comedown. It's a very, very gentle stimulant in my opinion. I don't have experience with redosing or using it to stay awake for days. I hope my limited use of 2-FMA is helpful to somebody out there!
 
I`m about to get some 2-fma today. I`m glad this thread is available! It`s really the only thing out there useful. I plan on keeping my dose low,around 20-30mgs and oral.
 
I`m about to get some 2-fma today. I`m glad this thread is available! It`s really the only thing out there useful. I plan on keeping my dose low,around 20-30mgs and oral.

Yes and yes to this. I don't understand how some people manage the "recreational" doses they report of 100mg or more, I've always found 40mg to be as high as I can push things before inducing some anxiety and some worrying cardiovascular issues (shallow breathing, rapid heartbeat, chest pains, etc.).

Stick to 30mg or less, avoid shoving it up your nose, and don't take any within 8-10 hours of when you need to sleep and you should find this a very useful substance. Problems arise when you start losing sleep, binge dosing, or snorting this substance. Oh, and make sure you get proper nutrition, even if you don't feel hungry. As others have noted, whey protein shakes are an excellent way to do this, as they are easy to get down and are packed with amino acids that refuel your brain and body.
 
2-fma is by far the most pleasant rc stim for vaporization to date. the smoke goes down like air, no harsh burn, no bad taste, no complications at all with a proper vaporizer at temperatures around 190-200° even the HCl goes into easy to inhale smoke. while vaporization might shorten stim duration one can expect a nice rush even at small doses like 10mg. rush ends pretty fast tho and turns into a functional stimulation. no jaw clenching, no shakes, no sweats, no heartrace with small doses. never did more than 20mg in one session and never had a problem with sleep 3-4 hours after last vape dose (always around 6-10mg), however it greatly reduces appetite (even the day after).
 
So my health issues were definitely unrelated to 2-FMA (diagnosed with lady problems that I won't mention here). I've been using 2-FMA about 5 days a week since then and find it very effective for focus/motivation. ~10-20 mg per day max. Good stuff!
 
Glad to hear it wasn't the 2-fma giving you issues. I have no complaints with 2-fma. Long lasting stimulation with little in the side effect department. Only negative experience was from using it too often , leading to dysphoria / low mood as Lady Codone pointed out earlier in the thread. What do you Bluelighters think about the recent blue batch of 2-fma that has been making its way around in terms of quality?
 
^ I thought the blue batch was excellent. The blue color faded permanently once I left the bag open for a while. It reeked of mothballs so I let it set out for a while in case any weird impurities were left behind (not sure if that even helps, but no adverse effects were noted).
 
Appreciate the info. Also for anyone who may be wondering , someone had theorized that the reason for the blue tint in the current batch floating around is from oxidized ammonia. This isn't lab proven by any means though.
 
So I`ve had 2-FMA on and off the last 2 or so weeks. I like plugging small doses which I find to be some what euphoric as the day progresses. I`ve eaten gel caps with 2-FMA inside but I don`t enjoy the effects as much compared to plugging.

So far I`ve been enjoying this chem.
 
Regarding different batches & potency, I can't comment on this "blue" batch but my most recent orders have been a darker shade of beige than earlier batches and the recent orders have been more potent as far as I can tell.
 
Apologies if this has been covered (I searched but no luck) -- Many people have compared 2-FMA to d-amphetamine or adderall, and I have a couple questions:

1) I'm wondering if anyone could speak to approximate equivalent dosages. I realize they aren't quite the same drug so there is no dose at which they are perfectly equivalent, but basically, if I wanted to achieve as close as I could get to 30mg of adderall / 70mg of vyvanse, how much 2-fma and by what ROA?

2) Has anyone combined 2-fma with adderall/dexedrine/vyvanse/desoxyn? If so, did you take them at the same time, one before the other, etc.?

My goal is not to party or socialize, but to be able to focus on an *extensive* writing project (and preferably do so in such a way that I can avoid getting distracted by tangents that lead me to spend several hours on footnotes that, in retrospect, concern rather trivial matters. So basically smooth, very long acting, rather constant strong (not not overly-hyperfocus strong and certainly not tweaking strong) focus. I think I can do that if I can add approximately 30mg of d-amp (oral) worth of 2-fma.

Also, I'm new -- so apologies if this is worded in a way that is inappropriate... still trying to internalize the norms here.
 
While I can't help you with dosages in relation to other amphetamines, I can say that 2-FMA performs great on its own. I don't feel as if I need to add anything to the experience. I've had some small amounts of caffeine but definitely not anything substantial. A 30mg dose of 2-FMA orally gave me the focus to work for four hours on a math project of mine , completing it with stimulation still being apparent. I wouldn't combine it with any other stimulant, due to fear of increasing my heart rate to an uncomfortable point, personally.

On another note, interesting to hear about the pink 2-FMA. This stuff seems to be something straight out of Breaking Bad. :)

Also, I found HighestWhenLow's post on page four to be pretty ridiculously close to my experiences. It is extremely easy to get to the point of regular use. The smooth comedown as well as almost complete lack of side effects honestly makes it rather difficult to reinforce that its probably not the most healthy. The worst I have gotten is slight kidney pain and palpitations but those are honestly pretty rare Recently finished a gram of it and plan on taking a nice long break now. I find it almost comparable to MXE in that you never need it , but things would feel a lot more swell on it.
 
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1) I'm wondering if anyone could speak to approximate equivalent dosages. I realize they aren't quite the same drug so there is no dose at which they are perfectly equivalent, but basically, if I wanted to achieve as close as I could get to 30mg of adderall / 70mg of vyvanse, how much 2-fma and by what ROA?

2) Has anyone combined 2-fma with adderall/dexedrine/vyvanse/desoxyn? If so, did you take them at the same time, one before the other, etc.?

1) I am prescribed vyvanse. I typically take anywhere from 70-120 mg a day to get where I like to be. When my script runs out early, I substitute with either 2-FMA or 4-FA (I've been switching between the two because I'm still trying to find out which one I prefer as a replacement for when my script runs out). For me, personally, 35-38 mg 2-FMA (pink and fluffy batch) gets be going pretty good and lasts allllllll day long. Be careful, though. Any more than 40 mg and it gets more uncomfortable than functional: noticeably increased heart rate, uneasy body load, so stimmed to really get things done properly.

2) To try and stretch my vyvanse script, sometimes I'll take 35-38 mg 2-FMA in the morning. Then an hour later, I'll take 40 mg Vyvanse. This combination is WONDERFUL for days when I'm exhausted for whatever reason, or need to wake up extremely early. The 2-FMA provides a feeling of complete alertness, and the d-amp from Vyvanse really makes me want to accomplish.

On another note, interesting to hear about the pink 2-FMA. This stuff seems to be something straight out of Breaking Bad. :)

You said it! The pink stuff is wonderful
 
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