RCs 2-FMA (2-Fluoromethamphetamine) - Megathread

[cybergollum]

I couldn´t find any real dosage informations. Everyone says something else. Could someone make a suggestion/chart about dosage?

Don't know if we can trust this source but it's better than nothing: Psychonautwiki.org.
Few erowid reports says something similar: #1, #2, #3.

Soon I will get 2-fma and will start from 10-20 mg oral (anyway don't consider this as advice, it is just my plan).
Actually I wonder if it really will be better/good enough as 3-fp which I liked (don't consider this as advertisement ).

 

[cousinskeeter]

Soon I will get 2-fma and will start from 10-20 mg oral (anyway don't consider this as advice, it is just my plan).
Actually I wonder if it really will be better/good enough as 3-fp which I liked (don't consider this as advertisement ).

Fuck the haters, just because you enjoyed a drug doesn't make you a shill. I very much enjoyed 3FP. Unfortunetaly it's too smooth and doesn't really have a rush. I was using 2FMA on and off almost daily for about a year. It's smooth and in low doses spread out during the day is awesome for mood, energy, and even has a tinge of anti anxiety in there. You can still eat while on it, but make sure if you plan on sleeping it will be at least 4 hours (in my case at least) after your last dose unless that is, you pop some benzos or something.

Problem is I was using it as my everyday drug and my party drug as well. Eventually I stopped hanging out with friends and co-workers as much and just wanted to sit around, write music, occasionally fuck and snort lines. It's not extremely euphoric or more-ish compared to other drugs out there, but when you get into a daily regiment of mental state change you lose focus on reality, it got old quick. The only drugs I do now are super intense ones, I no longer intend on being slightly high to get me through the day. Rather I wait to get home and go ape shit 2FMA just isnt ape shit enough for me now.

I will mentioned that I had zero noticeable negative health related effects besides a ever so slightly eroded septum after that 1 year + period, and no noticeable mental effects either. Sometimes going pee was a bit difficult, but that problem started back when I was abusing Mephedrone like there was no tomorrow, I probably fucked up my prostate. I digress.....


2FMA mixes very well with benzos I might add, makes for a very enjoyable experience. Do too much and you get anxious and over stimulated, but the cool thing is even if you power through the over-dose it won't ruin you, make you paranoid or anything like that. Anytime (which was many) that I went overboard on dose, and snorted .5gs or more in one evening I never felt like I would need to go to the ER, got paranoid or anything like that. Even if I had no benzos either laying down in bed and zorbing with the body high, or masturbating brought me back to baseline very fast.

Only tried 2FA once, but it burned like hell. 2FMA burns but its not bad at all, and compared to most chems not that caustic.

If you need to get through the work day an oral dose of 30-40 mg was a good starting point for me but I had a crazy tolerance. It will get you horny no doubt about that. You will also last a bit longer in bed, if not a TON longer (a blessing and a curse) and the sex is more enjoyable, but don't expect to want to fuck the living room clock with your dick like MDPV or aPVP makes you want to. Never had any health issues stem from my year long use either.

I don't do needles so I can't comment on IVing, and I have a very high tolerance to stims so I won't try to give dose advice. Oral dosing makes your entire day energetic, uplifted mood-wise and a tad euphoric. No need for a second dose. If you take it early you can probably sleep at night no problem especially if you have a physical job. Snorting effects last about half as long.... 4-7 hours for me. Produces more of a rush and more euphoria, obviously more sexual stimulation too. Can get a tad bit more-ish, and over stimulation is easier to achieve. Everyones different.

Vaping/smoking seems completely useless which is strange. When you vape the chemical (pipe or foil doesn't matter) it leaves zero residue, and just vanishes. The amount of vapor you get is extremely minimal, it tastes like pure shit (makes you want to puke) and has almost zero effect. No fucking clue why, I'm just the messenger.

I hate to say this about research chemicals, and by no means is this scientific fact.... but 2FMA seems like a very safe and solid fucking drug, whether for work, or play. Can't comment on studying because I was already out of school by the time I first tried the drug, but it seemed to work very well for concentrating on writing music.

 

[cpuller]

After testing this for while I have to say its a good stabilizer. Functional like 2FA but less euphoric but also longer lasting and it can potentially get you through the whole day.

Focus is not extreme but good and it's mostly the wakefulness component that works. Very tedious tasks seem ok but thats about it. It still kind of works where other stimulants fail. Ritalin is good for focus but by now I could sleep on it after drinking a beer.

Modafinil is ok but way too often hit and miss because of its strange side effects. 2fma has always similar effects.

 

[Akbar Rabbitowitz]

I was cycling between modafinil, 2-FMA, dex spansules, 4-FA and 3-meO-PCP with days and weeks off in-between.

My normal dose of modafinil is 50 to 100mg. Last week I tried 150mg and felt it was too much for me. My typical dose of 2-FMA is 20 to 40mg which suits my purposes well.

I don't dose 2-FMA often nowadays, maybe once every week to 10 days.

 

[Shpongleton]

Well, I thought I might share some of my 2-FMA experience since there is not much information on this one. So, I finally quit using kratom back in December of last year and had quite a bit of this stuff sitting around at the time. It helped give me the push I needed to get through withdrawal which then became a daily habit. I basically went through around 8 grams since then. The worst of the effects was definitely on my circulatory system. I was getting crazy tachycardia, shortness of breath, strange gastrointestinal behavior, overheating, dizziness. It was nothing horribly unmanageable, just frustrating given 2-FMA's ability to provide that extra motivational factor and contentedness.

Anyway I ran out 2 days ago and so far I haven't experienced any sort of terrible crash. I am getting what you might call a sort of lapse in concentration like you get when you are really really tired and your brain just sort of gives up. It's almost a strange feeling of newly found awareness as if my body is sort of saying, thank god he's not putting this stuff in me any more. Maybe I'll provide an update if withdrawal kicks in, but so far I'm kind of surprised.

 

[Ziiirp]

Thanks for telling about your long-term experiment. Good to hear, that you stopped, since there are rumors (with anectdotal evidence about a doctor's analysis) about the metabolites of 2-FMA being cardiotoxic. Of course it is a matter of frequency and dose but taking it regularly I consider significantly more dangerous than for example a Kratom habit (which also depends on the dose of course).

Regarding the crash of 2-FMA : My impression is, that the metabolites linger quite some time in the organism and during that period you won't experience the typical stimulant comedown symptoms. Perhaps you can give feedback on that a few days later.

 

[Shpongleton]

Yea thanks for the response Ziirp. The stuff definitely has a long half life and who knows what kind of damage it has done that I may not be aware of yet. For now, I'm feeling ok, just sleepy and a bit out of it. I mentally crave it out of habit, but physically my body is feeling better than it has in a while.

 

[NoArtFlav]

After some years finally getting to dabble soon

 

[Akbar Rabbitowitz]

2-FMA gets a Yellow Light for Safety

Last year I was taking 2-FMA twice a week or more along with a few days of modafinil and 4-FA and ritalin. It was not a sustainable cycle. It became boring and did not provide a consistent level of stimulation needed for creative endeavors.

There was some days I was dragging in mental energy, which i attributed to the cumulative effect of all my meds and substances, including a statin and Lopressor.

It takes time for all the metabolites and dregs of drugs to get worked out of the system, i've learned my limits and tolerances and spread out the dosing of 2-FMA and similar substances, due to an overabundance of caution in my old age.

In the mid 70s i was regularly taking windowpane, geltab LSD, using a unique and rarely discussed ROA, directly into my eye. It's been a most interesting life, 2-FMA may actually be more dangerous than the old days, perhaps?

There is a crash but I am not convinced it is too cardiotoxic as there are several users such as Lady Codone who seemed to be ok on long term low daily 2-FMA doses.

 

[higherconciousness]

I finally had the chance to try 2-fa, as well as 2-fma. 2-fa wasn't bad especially if its for certain purposes such as studying and what not, other than that very minimal euphoria. Just after my first trial with 2-fma, I'd say this my preferred one.

Others mentioned not as much euphoria induced by taking it orally, with which i tend to agree. Plugged on the other hand was a different experience. I'm going to try IV tomorrow since the consensus is that it's one hell of an roa.

 

[Mescalin3]

I've also been experimenting with several of the fluorinated amphetamines lately (every now and then, not daily use by any means), namely 2-fa, 2-fma, 4-fa and 3-fa, and various combinations of these.

In my experience 2-fa is definitely the most forgiving of these in terms of after effects, closely followed by 2-fma. 2-fa at around 20mg orally is great as a performance enhancer for me, or to help you get through the day after a night of too little sleep.

2-fma has more recreational value though and I definitely prefer this one for parties at around 60mg orally (~65kg male, mid 20s). I'm a pretty introverted person usually, and wouldn't normally enjoy parties with loud (not too good...) music and lots of people that much (especially when there are mostly people I don't know..). With 2-fma I enjoy it quite a lot though and will find myself talking with various people throughout the night without any of the awkward silent moments that would probably occur otherwise haha. Plus, because of the near absence of after effects I don't have to worry about performing badly at work either - at least at this dosage on a friday or saturday night (redosing once at 60mg at around T+6h doesn't seem to make this any worse either).

At higher dosages and/or repeatedly redosing (e.g. 2 day binges / 250mg+ sessions) there (unsurprisingly) is a definite amphetamine-like hangover though - for several days I'll be unmotivated, tired, find myself wanting to go to bed at 4 or 5 in the afternoon, and I'll sleep a lot more (can easily sleep 10h or more a night). Considering the amount of abuse these after effects are still quite mild though in my opinion.

With regard to combinations, if I want to give it little more of an mdma like feeling I love adding a low dose of 4-fa (also 60mg orally) to the mix! There seems to be a great synergy there. At this low of a dose (4-fa), the serotonin-depletion hangover effects are also very mild, but there might be some slight depression 1 or 2 days after use. I'm very sensitive to the "serotonin hangovers" though, which is also why I usually avoid any serotonin depleting drugs, unless it is a very special occasion and I have plenty of time to recover from it. I do like the mdma effect a lot more than the pure amphetamine effect, but the hangovers are usually not worth it for me.

I find 2-fma also combines very well with alcohol, as long as you stay responsible. Don't drink more than you would normally do without any stims. Here there also is a great synergy though. With mdma I completely avoid alcohol because in my opinion it ruins the high - I just get drunk instead of having that amazing mdma feeling. I'll never understand people combining alcohol and mdma. Some alcohol with your 2-fma, though: amazing! I think someone else mentioned it as well, it will almost immediately flush your face. Even only one mouthful of beer will send a wave of warmth over my face. It's great But keep it safe.

Any other combinations didn't seem to stand out much. I have on occasion used very low doses of 3-fa (~10mg insufflated) in combination with 2-fma, 2-fa, and 4-fa which gives me a very short (~1h long), very dopaminergic mild/moderate high. This can be nice if it is something you are looking for but it's nothing too special. I've used it a couple of times right before taking 4-fa to bridge the time it takes for the 4-fa to start working, which can take up to an hour for me on an empty stomach.

I always have some etizolam on hand by the way to help me get to sleep after a night out Especially with these long acting stims like 2fma and 4fa it's a huge help, and a good night of sleep helps a lot in preventing after effects. Any stim user probably knows this but I cannot recommend it enough.

I am a little curious regarding my usual 2-fma dosage of 60mg by the way, as this seems to be in the 'heavy' range? To me it doesn't feel like a particularly high dose at all, not by any means weak either, just a moderate to strong dose. Are those who report using it at around 30mg looking to use it primarily as a study aid?

Recently the place I get my RCs also has 4-fma now. I haven't read up on its effects much yet, but I have a feeling it might fall somewhere in between 2-fma and 4-fa effects-wise. Seeing as to how that combination is pretty amazing imo, I'm pretty excited to try this new little chem!

 

[Vt K]

Wow so nothing has been added in 2 years.

So basically I wanted to give a brief overview:

15mg oral- You definitely can feel it.. amazing for wakefulness- lasted a good 3 hours. No physical affects noted. woke me up like 100-150mg caffeine
30mg oral- super so fucking clean.
40mg oral- noticeably scattered and jaw clenching.
50mg oral- always got me to scattered and would begin kinda sucking on cheeks. Obvious heart is working much harder. Similar to adderall heart beat. It always remains 'clean' but anything over 40 is just too much. For work and getting things done i found it best to take 30-40 and a 30 or 40mg redose 3-4 hours later, although if you redose it'll last every bit of 12 hours. I have never not redosed. *figures*
60mg oral- Nothing to write home about. Theres a ceiling to this chemical and Ive certain you reach it around 40mg

NOW... to good the stuff I absolutely love porn and stimulants. These days a-PVP and a-PHP are simply too psychotic and delusional for me. Whether snorting, vaping or plugging as soon as i ingest it im catapulted into a state of extreme paranoia. I cant even beat off because i have to keep checking the windows and that the door is locked! Its literally retarded

75mg plugged provided much less body load than 50mg oral. I never really received a 'knocking heart' on plugged 2-fma. 3 minutes after plugging im immediately on the computer... With NO paranoia! However, if someone were to try and have a conversation with me it would be clearly noticeable i was on something. Obviously scattered. I dont have to redose for a couple hours in which ill do another 75mg and few hours after that 4mg of etizolam lays me down sooo nicely.

I am simply AMAZED how LONG this chemical is.... but im even more impressed that if i havent redosed in like 3 hours... 4mg of etiz and literally 45 min later im asleep. 2mg works just as well.

 

[Bal0n]

Sounds familiar, but what about your crashes? I found those quite nasty with this compound.

 

[Vt K]

Sounds familiar, but what about your crashes? I found those quite nasty with this compound.

Honestly I was always still going when I would take 2-4mg to go to sleep. For me, with copious stimulant and caffeine tolerance, was not even slightly comparable to Adderall or ice. For me, the comedown was as minute as one coming down off a very strong cup of coffee, without the fatigue. Its so hard to describe because it SO benign. 4 hours after my first redose, 2mg etiz and i could sleep in 30 to 45 min... Always woke up refreshed. I never stayed up more than 24 hours... and this is SO FOREIGN to me. i always end up binging

 

[Bal0n]

Unfortunately, I have no reliable benzo source, so I would always just end up riding it out. I guess those etiz's of yours do the trick for you.

 

[higherconciousness]

Not much discussion about 2-fma these days. Has anyone been able to acquire any lately? I’ve been seeing it around, but am skeptical about its quality.

 

[Sp33dster]

Not much discussion about 2-fma these days. Has anyone been able to acquire any lately? I’ve been seeing it around, but am skeptical about its quality.

Ordered a couple grams this past weekend. Tracking says it'll be here tomorrow, but I'm sure it'll be Friday at the earliest. PO around here is understaffed and having to deal with excess packages being dumped on them due to a big box distribution center here being temporarily shut down. I'll try to remember to report back on quality. Claim is it's 97%, but I'd be surprised if that's the case.

 

[higherconciousness]

Mine also claimed to be 97%. I tried plugging 30mg this morning and definitely felt it although there wasn't much in the euphoria deparatment. I didn't sleep at all last night so perhaps that's why it left me a bit agitated and tense. Over the next 4-5 hours I plugged 20mg 2x with a few mg's of Pyrazolam and now I'm beginning to feel a lot better. I think it takes a few times of usage before you find that sweet spot. Haven't been able to find this stuff for years so am glad it's still out there.

Probably ended up consuming 100mg throughout yesterday via rectal administration. With the help of some benzos and clonidine I managed to get some sleep and woke up this morning feeling decent, but a little fried. There were some minor peripheral side effects still present (slightly elevated heart rate, vasoconstriction, negligible muscle tension).

I told myself I wasn't going to use anything today, but I just couldn't resist. I loaded up an oral syringe with 60mg of 2-fma, 1mg of suboxone, and .5mg of Pyrazolam and proceeded to plug away. I was expecting to experience diminished results and subsequent regret, but I was pleasantly surprised. In fact, I'm feeling exponentially better than I did with my initial trial.

 

[Hexenstahl]

Some people say this stuff makes you horny but I just insufflated 50mg which is considered a high dose and I don't feel horny at all. Wish I hadn't thrown away my Speed (amphetamine sulfate). You think I should take another 50mg or is it a waste of material?

 

[Buzz Lightbeer]

Some people say this stuff makes you horny but I just insufflated 50mg which is considered a high dose and I don't feel horny at all. Wish I hadn't thrown away my Speed (amphetamine sulfate). You think I should take another 50mg or is it a waste of material?

I wouldn't expect to feel particularly horny on 2-FMA.
You could take another 50mg but I wouldn't expect a big difference in pro-sexual effects.
100mg in total will have you speeding pretty hard, I think.