A good example of how meth might be more enjoyable and thus more addictive and dangerous is the compariosn to another famous drug. Cocaine as a milestone but meth makes it look like a cheap caffine high. Its similar when comparing it to other amps. While this might seem like an incentive to use it, the truth is that its the opposite.
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Meth ⫸Methamphetamine Megathread⫷
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Deadhead420
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HOLY FUCKING SHIT I FINALLY GOT THE IV METH RUSH (Plus a couple questions)
So yea you may have read some of my posts regarding my experimentation with meth. I had never done it before besides in ecstasy pills (probably... you never know what's in those things but I've had some speedy ones.)
Anyway this was my first attempt at IV (third post on there):
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/671554-Comparing-different-ROAs-(Meth)
After that I stayed sober from my last use (Sunday) until today (Thursday.) Well I did use some marijuana on two occasions but no meth and nothing else except caffeine.
Anyway, HOLY FUCK that rush. Last time it was just like 30 seconds of my heart beating fast. This time it was the best rush I've ever had and I've IV'ed a lot of drugs (coke, hydromorphone, oxycodone, morphine, heroin, oxymorphone... maybe some more I'm forgetting.) Coke I've never gotten a bell ringer and I've only IV'ed it a couple times. I mostly just added a little dash of coke mixed in with an opiate to increase the rush. So yea some people say IV coke is better... I probably wouldn't know. The best rush I've ever had thus far has been hydromorphone. The only heroin I've done is black tar so maybe powder is better there and with oxymorphone it was Opana and those things are hard as fuck to IV so I'm sure I didn't get the full dose there.
So yea that leaves hydromorphone with that maybe 10-15 seconds of tightness in your chest and then a warm release (maybe I'm underestimating here, I used to be hooked on that shit IVing it 3 times a day so I obviously loved it.)
The meth though just blows it all out of the water. As soon as took the needle out my whole body just went numb. I put my arms on the sink, and just kind of started lifting my legs up and stretching my arms out because I couldn't really do anything else but be immersed in pleasure. I ended up just laying down on my bath mat and rubbing my head and hands on it (it was pretty soft and felt good lol.) The rush seemed to last forever too. I was probably in the bathroom for like a minute or two before the rush wore off (maybe less but that's what it felt like.)
Differences this time:
1. A period of abstinence from meth (last time I IV'ed I was already up all night from snorting it.)
2. A bigger shot (I was scared last time so obviously wanted to start small.)
3. I actually made sure to crush and mix to let it dissolve into the water properly (meth is clear so last time I just squirted some water in there, shot it, then noticed there was still some stuck to the spoon)
4. There may have been some marijuana in my system last time... probably not this time but if so much less. (last time I snorted some meth, went out with a friend, ate some doses of cheeba chew (marijuana edibles and those things are POTENT and last forever) got home, laid down in bed stoned yet awake from meth (actually a pretty awesome combo, took away a lot of the weed anxiety for me) but couldn't sleep so at 9am I said fuck it I'm gonna try IV and just stay up another day since I had shit to do. This time I had shared a blunt of midgrade weed with 2 friends the afternoon before and slept like a baby last night (partially because I was helping said friends move and physical exertion always leads to awesome sleep for me (note that I did not use meth that day... physical exertion + meth = bad right?)
Question time (lets make this a valid discussion):
1. The last time I used, I ended up with some chest pain. Not while I was high but during the comedown especially and some minor pains for like 2 days after. It was like a sharp pain in my chest off to the left but under where I think my heart is. Also, had a pain in my back near my left shoulder blade. WebMD says angina (it didn't have any of the symptoms of a heart attack thank god because I'm in my 20s.) Could have also been heartburn though because I was also experiencing that on the comedown. Anyone else have chest pain on or after meth?
2. Is excersing a bad thing on meth? I'm probably a little overweight (5'6" 178 pounds... mostly fat too
) I have a treadmill at my house but I'm a lazy fuck but with this meth I've found my energy and motivation lol. More than just the weight though I'm just out of shape. When I was helping my friend move yesterday (was not on meth to do so) I felt worn out too soon so I'd like to improve my stamina. I know meth is super-bad for your health but this is an experimentation thing and my primary use is not to lose weight (though it might be a plus lol last time the only thing I had to eat for two days was a milkshake and I didn't feel hungry at all.)
3. Does smoking meth give you even half the rush that IVing does? Snorting didn't give me any rush at all but still gave a good high. It's kind of ironic I've IVed before I smoked but I'm an opiate user (haven't used opiates in over a month now though
) so I have the gear for IV but have never owned a crack/meth/DMT pipe (are they all the same, also can you smoke heroin out of these.) I'd like to shy away from IV so I'm looking into smoking as a possible alternative. Also, I'm not really sure how to get a meth pipe? Any ideas? Or any ideas on how I can make a good homemade one?
4. My eyes aren't really dilated. Except for my freaky left eye that is always a different dilation from my right eye. First found that out when I flipped my car about 8 years ago and that was the first thing paramedics noticed. Apparently it's a sign of brain damage but also some people's eyes are just like that for no reason (is this true... maybe I have a little brain damage lmao because I have no idea if my eyes were like that before the car accident. Anyway last time I used, I don't think they were dilated on the first day but definitely were on the 2nd day.
PS: Also had a revelation about taking selfies in the bathroom mirror. Instead of pointing the camera at the mirror and getting the reflection like most people do, point the screen at the mirror and the camera at yourself. Use the mirror to see your screen and your pictures will come out much better
5. Why do people on here say things like "don't miss a shot of IV meth or insta-abcess" or implying that IV meth is more dangerous than other drugs IV? It seems to me it may be safer due to the simple fact that this is BY FAR the cleanest dissolving substance I've ever injected. Maybe coke (almost always mixed with opiates so I wouldn't know) or ECP (I've never done it) heroin comes close but damn this shot was crystal clear (I made a pun lol), I got nearly all my water back (BTH and I tend to lose like 20-30 units), and there was almost no residue left in the spoon afterwards.
6. Is it safe to eat cotton? I always eat my cotton filter (I use Q tips) because I'm not keen on saving them because of HR concerns and cotton fever so I just eat them so I don't waste anything. Will I just shit it out later or... what I just thought of: it isn't like human hair is it? Where it can't be digested and so it just builds up in your stomach creating a beazor (spelling?) God I hope not because I've been doing this with almost every shot I've ever taken of anything.
7. Erectile dysfunction. Does anyone else get this? I thought meth was supposed to be a sex drug. At least it's gained a reputation for that among the gay community especially (I'm straight, not that it matters unless the "gay gene" includes the ability to get an erection on meth.) But yea it made my dick shrink. It's like I just got out of a tub of ice water lol. I normally have no problem getting it up even on drugs like opiates and alcohol (can get it up but hard to finish.) I can definitely see how it would reduce inhibitions and give you all kinds of energy and stamina for sex though. Do people just take Viagra or whatever to have sex on meth? I have a couple 20mg Cialis pills (I've never actually used any type of ED pill though.) Now, I'm not going to take any of that today since I don't have a lady with me and I don't want to end up like this guy. I can't even imagine how raw his dick is after that lmao. Today I just want to have energy to clean, fill out some job applications, and play some video games... not jack off to porn all day. I just watched some simply to see if anything would happen but... nope. No effect and not much interest in continuing to try. Just wondering how common ED is on meth vs the wild crazy sex it's known for.
So yea you may have read some of my posts regarding my experimentation with meth. I had never done it before besides in ecstasy pills (probably... you never know what's in those things but I've had some speedy ones.)
Anyway this was my first attempt at IV (third post on there):
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/671554-Comparing-different-ROAs-(Meth)
After that I stayed sober from my last use (Sunday) until today (Thursday.) Well I did use some marijuana on two occasions but no meth and nothing else except caffeine.
Anyway, HOLY FUCK that rush. Last time it was just like 30 seconds of my heart beating fast. This time it was the best rush I've ever had and I've IV'ed a lot of drugs (coke, hydromorphone, oxycodone, morphine, heroin, oxymorphone... maybe some more I'm forgetting.) Coke I've never gotten a bell ringer and I've only IV'ed it a couple times. I mostly just added a little dash of coke mixed in with an opiate to increase the rush. So yea some people say IV coke is better... I probably wouldn't know. The best rush I've ever had thus far has been hydromorphone. The only heroin I've done is black tar so maybe powder is better there and with oxymorphone it was Opana and those things are hard as fuck to IV so I'm sure I didn't get the full dose there.
So yea that leaves hydromorphone with that maybe 10-15 seconds of tightness in your chest and then a warm release (maybe I'm underestimating here, I used to be hooked on that shit IVing it 3 times a day so I obviously loved it.)
The meth though just blows it all out of the water. As soon as took the needle out my whole body just went numb. I put my arms on the sink, and just kind of started lifting my legs up and stretching my arms out because I couldn't really do anything else but be immersed in pleasure. I ended up just laying down on my bath mat and rubbing my head and hands on it (it was pretty soft and felt good lol.) The rush seemed to last forever too. I was probably in the bathroom for like a minute or two before the rush wore off (maybe less but that's what it felt like.)
Differences this time:
1. A period of abstinence from meth (last time I IV'ed I was already up all night from snorting it.)
2. A bigger shot (I was scared last time so obviously wanted to start small.)
3. I actually made sure to crush and mix to let it dissolve into the water properly (meth is clear so last time I just squirted some water in there, shot it, then noticed there was still some stuck to the spoon)
4. There may have been some marijuana in my system last time... probably not this time but if so much less. (last time I snorted some meth, went out with a friend, ate some doses of cheeba chew (marijuana edibles and those things are POTENT and last forever) got home, laid down in bed stoned yet awake from meth (actually a pretty awesome combo, took away a lot of the weed anxiety for me) but couldn't sleep so at 9am I said fuck it I'm gonna try IV and just stay up another day since I had shit to do. This time I had shared a blunt of midgrade weed with 2 friends the afternoon before and slept like a baby last night (partially because I was helping said friends move and physical exertion always leads to awesome sleep for me (note that I did not use meth that day... physical exertion + meth = bad right?)
Question time (lets make this a valid discussion):
1. The last time I used, I ended up with some chest pain. Not while I was high but during the comedown especially and some minor pains for like 2 days after. It was like a sharp pain in my chest off to the left but under where I think my heart is. Also, had a pain in my back near my left shoulder blade. WebMD says angina (it didn't have any of the symptoms of a heart attack thank god because I'm in my 20s.) Could have also been heartburn though because I was also experiencing that on the comedown. Anyone else have chest pain on or after meth?
2. Is excersing a bad thing on meth? I'm probably a little overweight (5'6" 178 pounds... mostly fat too
) I have a treadmill at my house but I'm a lazy fuck but with this meth I've found my energy and motivation lol. More than just the weight though I'm just out of shape. When I was helping my friend move yesterday (was not on meth to do so) I felt worn out too soon so I'd like to improve my stamina. I know meth is super-bad for your health but this is an experimentation thing and my primary use is not to lose weight (though it might be a plus lol last time the only thing I had to eat for two days was a milkshake and I didn't feel hungry at all.)3. Does smoking meth give you even half the rush that IVing does? Snorting didn't give me any rush at all but still gave a good high. It's kind of ironic I've IVed before I smoked but I'm an opiate user (haven't used opiates in over a month now though
) so I have the gear for IV but have never owned a crack/meth/DMT pipe (are they all the same, also can you smoke heroin out of these.) I'd like to shy away from IV so I'm looking into smoking as a possible alternative. Also, I'm not really sure how to get a meth pipe? Any ideas? Or any ideas on how I can make a good homemade one?4. My eyes aren't really dilated. Except for my freaky left eye that is always a different dilation from my right eye. First found that out when I flipped my car about 8 years ago and that was the first thing paramedics noticed. Apparently it's a sign of brain damage but also some people's eyes are just like that for no reason (is this true... maybe I have a little brain damage lmao because I have no idea if my eyes were like that before the car accident. Anyway last time I used, I don't think they were dilated on the first day but definitely were on the 2nd day.
PS: Also had a revelation about taking selfies in the bathroom mirror. Instead of pointing the camera at the mirror and getting the reflection like most people do, point the screen at the mirror and the camera at yourself. Use the mirror to see your screen and your pictures will come out much better
5. Why do people on here say things like "don't miss a shot of IV meth or insta-abcess" or implying that IV meth is more dangerous than other drugs IV? It seems to me it may be safer due to the simple fact that this is BY FAR the cleanest dissolving substance I've ever injected. Maybe coke (almost always mixed with opiates so I wouldn't know) or ECP (I've never done it) heroin comes close but damn this shot was crystal clear (I made a pun lol), I got nearly all my water back (BTH and I tend to lose like 20-30 units), and there was almost no residue left in the spoon afterwards.
6. Is it safe to eat cotton? I always eat my cotton filter (I use Q tips) because I'm not keen on saving them because of HR concerns and cotton fever so I just eat them so I don't waste anything. Will I just shit it out later or... what I just thought of: it isn't like human hair is it? Where it can't be digested and so it just builds up in your stomach creating a beazor (spelling?) God I hope not because I've been doing this with almost every shot I've ever taken of anything.
7. Erectile dysfunction. Does anyone else get this? I thought meth was supposed to be a sex drug. At least it's gained a reputation for that among the gay community especially (I'm straight, not that it matters unless the "gay gene" includes the ability to get an erection on meth.) But yea it made my dick shrink. It's like I just got out of a tub of ice water lol. I normally have no problem getting it up even on drugs like opiates and alcohol (can get it up but hard to finish.) I can definitely see how it would reduce inhibitions and give you all kinds of energy and stamina for sex though. Do people just take Viagra or whatever to have sex on meth? I have a couple 20mg Cialis pills (I've never actually used any type of ED pill though.) Now, I'm not going to take any of that today since I don't have a lady with me and I don't want to end up like this guy. I can't even imagine how raw his dick is after that lmao. Today I just want to have energy to clean, fill out some job applications, and play some video games... not jack off to porn all day. I just watched some simply to see if anything would happen but... nope. No effect and not much interest in continuing to try. Just wondering how common ED is on meth vs the wild crazy sex it's known for.
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Ksa
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Congradulations bro, you've felt what 99.999% of humans on this Earth will die without feeling. You've gained some advantage, just don't push it too much lol.
1. It's not heart burn it's the heart muscle being tired. It's all normal, just bare through it, it will hold just fine. Omega 3, rest, protein and lots vitamins to help it.
2. Do not do any kind of physical exercise while on a strong stimulant. Just sitting down while on meth is equivalent to jogging at moderate speed.
3. Do not smoke drugs.
4. You don't care how your eyes look.
5. Shoot carefully.
6. Don't eat cotton metal or wood.
^___^
LOL AARON, funny picture and name ^_^
1. It's not heart burn it's the heart muscle being tired. It's all normal, just bare through it, it will hold just fine. Omega 3, rest, protein and lots vitamins to help it.
2. Do not do any kind of physical exercise while on a strong stimulant. Just sitting down while on meth is equivalent to jogging at moderate speed.
3. Do not smoke drugs.
4. You don't care how your eyes look.
5. Shoot carefully.
6. Don't eat cotton metal or wood.
^___^
LOL AARON, funny picture and name ^_^
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Ksa
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"7. Erectile dysfunction. Does anyone else get this? I thought meth was supposed to be a sex drug. "
It is. In fact, when your dick is limb, that's when you're in buisness. Like, if you try to fuck with it you'll fail at life ya but it's not like you got a wife to please. Bj...
I need to stop teaching shit lol, do you got harm reduction questions?
It is. In fact, when your dick is limb, that's when you're in buisness. Like, if you try to fuck with it you'll fail at life ya but it's not like you got a wife to please. Bj...
I need to stop teaching shit lol, do you got harm reduction questions?
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Added one more question to the OP
I bet the number of people that have used IV meth is higher than .001%. Definitely higher if you count people using meth in other ROAs. But whatever, I'm an adventurous type and why not experience all life has to offer while you're here (including drugs.) Now I know addiction can bring you down to dark places because I've been there with opiates. I've also been much more careful with my drug use since I got off taking opiates and later Suboxone every day. I don't require drugs every day any more and only occasionally dabble in opiates (last time was over a month ago.) Trying meth was mostly about the novelty of trying something new.
1. Where do I get Omega 3? Can I get it in a pill or certain foods or what? I've been meaning to research what vitamins/supplements would help my body recovery from meth use but all I have around the house is some Centrum multivitamins (these are good and NOT expired) and some Vitamin B Complex (2 years past it's expiration date though) and some Vitamin B-12 (1 year past it's expiration date.) Are any of those worth a damn and does the expiration date really matter? I know most prescription medications will last long past their exp. date. Same for these vitamins or no? I did take a Centrum with my first meal the day after my last meth use... don't know if it helped or not though. And you are supposed to take most vitamins with a meal to help the absorb properly right?
2. Yea, I figured. I'll hold off on that till I'm sober heh.
3. And IVing is better? lol
4. Maybe you don't but I do (so it's not obvious I'm high.)
5. Will do. I'm an experienced IV'er (mostly with opiates) so I know what I'm doing. Regardless, this may be my last IV shot of this bag (can't promise anything though.)
6. Metal or wood? Nigga you cray (I'm not racist... seriously lol)
Ksa
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1. Omega 3 is in pills, I get packs of 300 pills, take 2 per day normally and more when you do that shit.
2. Dude your left eye was probably in the shade...like, theres a shade over it look closely...
2. Dude your left eye was probably in the shade...like, theres a shade over it look closely...
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Nothing harmful about sex right? As long as you trust your partner and you're both STD free. And the whole pregnancy thing... but fuck it I'm by myself today and I'm pretty sure I can't get anything from my hand lmfao. When I'm sober I can usually get it up and finish in no time but on meth... my Johnson is pulling a scared turtle the likes of which I've never seen. Like I said though, not really a problem, as I don't really feel the need to masturbate but I'm just wondering how common this is on a supposed "sex drug."
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1. Cool. Do you take them while you're high, afterwards to help recover, or both? And can I just buy them at Walgreens or GNC? (I'm guessing/hoping they're available without a prescription OTC)
2. No, I've had this weird "one eye dilated more than other other" for about 8 years now (or maybe my whole life and I just didn't notice it paramedics noticed it after I flipped my car about 8 years ago... not sure if it was like that before but apparently some people's eyes are naturally like that I think is what they told me.) It happens ever when I'm stone cold sober and haven't had drugs in a long time. And it's like that pretty much all the time. Drugs have nothing to do with it. I just posted that picture to show that my eyes aren't dilated more than normal. They almost look a little pinned even.
Ksa
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After usually, I try to keep my liver as fewly occupied as possible.
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Wait, is omega 3 found in fish oil pills? Because I do have some of those (and I believe they're even good NOT expired). Or is there a better source? Would be awesome to not have to spend any more money though if the fish oil pills work. I've just heard those things make you burp nasty fish taste afterwards lol but oh well I may give it a shot when I come down.
Ksa
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ya...
Stimulants, especially Meth, cause vasoconstriction (veins constrict). This causes less blood to your penis and makes it difficult to achieve an erection. The cialis/viagra route would work as they are vasodilators (I'm sure you can guess what they do).
Talking to people a generation before myself using--many would say (at least in the Midwest) the only reason why many started even using Meth was because it's very hard to find Cocaine uncut(or at least a majority uncut) since many dealers themselves were cutting Cocaine with Meth as it was because it would keep people awake similar to Adderall so then they'd feel it was the Cocaine which isn't entirely true.
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OntarioGuy
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Hmmm....Extreme pleasure after an IV dose of methamphetamine....Who'd have thought?
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Back home when I smoked what we called meth pretty often, it was a white powder usually with some rocks in it. We would take a little rock, put it on a foil "boat" and chase it up and down as it melted and got hard again leaving a trail behind it each time.
When I moved to my current location, I was excited to find it here. However, the stuff here was clear crystals. Like the stuff you see on Breaking Bad. It didn't run well on foil at all. It would melt then slide really fast without producing much smoke (much unlike the stuff from back home) and would be gone. Sucks because I wasted it by doing that and haven't been able to find it since. I keep reading that "ice", which is what I always thought this was, is the best stuff for smoking, yet, that's my experience....
Anyway, am I correct that the stuff I had back home wasn't actually crystal meth, but crank? Man would I love to be able to find THAT again!
When I moved to my current location, I was excited to find it here. However, the stuff here was clear crystals. Like the stuff you see on Breaking Bad. It didn't run well on foil at all. It would melt then slide really fast without producing much smoke (much unlike the stuff from back home) and would be gone. Sucks because I wasted it by doing that and haven't been able to find it since.
I keep reading that "ice", which is what I always thought this was, is the best stuff for smoking, yet, that's my experience....Anyway, am I correct that the stuff I had back home wasn't actually crystal meth, but crank? Man would I love to be able to find THAT again!
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Fixed image so it's in natural dimensions...I like to stare at it...
Is this why we're here? Is this it? I mean...Jees...he's got a good point. He's got a good fucking point, look at him! All the people striving for assets, condos and IKEA furniture, all are instantly proven wrong by this pitty 556px × 97px image...it's beautiful.
That's it...that's just it. We can try to deny it and lie to ourselves but...fuck I gotta save this on my computer, it's so deep. ^___^
Is this why we're here? Is this it? I mean...Jees...he's got a good point. He's got a good fucking point, look at him! All the people striving for assets, condos and IKEA furniture, all are instantly proven wrong by this pitty 556px × 97px image...it's beautiful.
That's it...that's just it. We can try to deny it and lie to ourselves but...fuck I gotta save this on my computer, it's so deep. ^___^
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ELmao...yep its..indescribable. don't miss your vein though...also inde scribable. As far as the sex part imma girl..lol that rush can make u ..never mind..but be careful bro ...
But also no need to worry so...just..keep an eye out for the shadow people.. wink.
But also no need to worry so...just..keep an eye out for the shadow people.. wink.
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Fixed image so it's in natural dimensions...I like to stare at it...
Is this why we're here? Is this it? I mean...Jees...he's got a good point. He's got a good fucking point, look at him! All the people striving for assets, condos and IKEA furniture, all are instantly proven wrong by this pitty 556px × 97px image...it's beautiful.
That's it...that's just it. We can try to deny it and lie to ourselves but...fuck I gotta save this on my computer, it's so deep. ^___^
WTF are you doing with my eyes? lmao It's a little creepy now that I'm sober to come back here and have my tweaked out eyes staring back at me.
My eyes actually ended up getting more dilated on the comedown but not when I was tweaking really hard (strange?)
Anyway, I ended up taking those fish oil pills. It said to take 1 pill 3 times daily with food so that's what I did today. Also took a Centrum multivitamin. Not sure how it's supposed to help but oh well can't hurt. Couldn't sleep much last night but I think I may have dozed off for a little bit at least. I have a job fair coming up so I'm gonna hold off on doing more until I know if I have to take a drug test. And then... I'm not sure if I want to IV again. I mean, it was really fucking awesome, but at the same time it was almost too awesome. The rush scares me more than a heroin rush (which I had no problem IV'ing multiple times a day.) Feels like it's probably really bad on my heart.
Damn I'm jealous. I got a hell of an awesome rush but nothing sexual. I've heard that girls can get that though heh. No hallucinations this time but last time when I was up for 2 days I started having minor almost LSD-like visual hallucinations of still images moving on my computer screen but the weirdest part was audio hallucinations. I swore I was hearing music coming from the next room so I got up and went over there and then it was coming from the room I was just in. Couldn't even determine what song it was... it was just too quiet to make out but it was definitely music. Never had anything like that happen to me before from LSD or anything else.
Haven't ever seen "shadow people" though... not sure if I want to....
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using all caps like that will turn people away from your threads. maybe just say it normal.
70 mg of some solid shard was the right dose for me. I never took it up to 100mg, but depending on your gear you might need that much. with meth if you do a little more than necessary you wont straight up die like with cocaine, but thats not to say you wont be uncomfortable and tweaked out if you do too much. so try not to do too much, it's possible to die from it if say you have a bad heart or your physically weakened for some reason, so if that is the case then take it easy.
70 mg of some solid shard was the right dose for me. I never took it up to 100mg, but depending on your gear you might need that much. with meth if you do a little more than necessary you wont straight up die like with cocaine, but thats not to say you wont be uncomfortable and tweaked out if you do too much. so try not to do too much, it's possible to die from it if say you have a bad heart or your physically weakened for some reason, so if that is the case then take it easy.