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Meth ⫸Methamphetamine Megathread⫷

Candy_Raver said:
How much should one person take at a time?

If your dealing with pure ice, I'd say between 50-150mgs. 0.05gram to 0.15grams. I've did 0.15 150mgs my first time trying meth. I've never smoked or snorted it, I went into IV my first time trying because I wanted the best high.

How often should you do a shot?
Try not to redose, I'd say wait a week. When you start coming down, don't redose, have some benzos on hand. It really helps with the paranoia and hearing voices.

How do you know when you have been 'smoked down'?

No Idea what this means.

When is it time to up your dosage?

When you build a tolerance.

What are the steps in preparing a shot of ice? Water - Dope ratio
Use all sterile equipment, use about 40-60units of sterile saline, 100 unit syringe, about 30-31 gauge, swab with alcohol, insert syringe, register and push plunger. Don't miss the shot otherwise you won't get the intense rush.

I've only shot meth 5 times, and its highly addictive. Only reason I've managed to not do it is the fact that I don't have a dealer. Otherwise I'd do it every week if possible. I don't suggest injecting meth. I've been clean off meth for 3 months now.

-PLUR
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If your talking ICE[4 methylaminorex], not meth, then for a very casual user like me, .35 of a point[35mg], is plenty, 50 at the most, a point of GOOD ICE would be very unpleasant, maybe even hospital!! Even GOOD, clean meth[homemade], 40 mgs is plenty:) PURE!!
 
I'm just curious about IV in general but it's going to be meth that's most likely used. IV catheters. Has anyone ever done such a thing?
 
I'm just curious about IV in general but it's going to be meth that's most likely used. IV catheters. Has anyone ever done such a thing?
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a catheter in this case is just a needle tip attached to a length of medical tube.

is that how you'll be performing the injection? as if to perform a drip over a length of time? or instantly?

from my perspective it would be wiser simply using a simple insulin syringe for safety factor unless you've got a professional setting it up. it seems so unreasonable to set up a catheter if you're wanting to inject meth.
 
First time i've tried meth... clear shards, melt, fume as expected. But not really speedy. IV'd 30mg in two doses (nervous, cautious) Vaped 100mg now. Not totally buggered / tweaked like i was expecting.

Does anyone know about cross tolerance with MPA? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methiopropamine

Started 6 months ago, 2g MPA lasted me a week. Lately I was up to 1g per day and iv'ing 130mg doses. I quit the stuff, no longer worked, can't be good for you either.

You think cross tolerance could be it or is there dodgy, mildly speedy shards about? Can you have bad clear glasslike shards? L isomer instead of the D? Racemic maybe?
 
Pharmanaut said:
You think cross tolerance could be it or is there dodgy, mildly speedy shards about? Can you have bad clear glasslike shards? L isomer instead of the D? Racemic maybe?
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Crystal methamphetamine can be cut with inactive ingredients, although it's generally one of the more pure drugs available in the drug scene these days.

And yes, if you look at the DEA micrograms, you'll see different ratios of isomers for huge quantities of seized methamphetamine; one seizure was almost 100% d-isomer, others were almost all l-isomer. It's hard to gauge how quality your product is unless you're a seasoned user.
 
So, there's been a couple of posts up about missing a bit of a shot, and getting a big. hard lump.
I currently, am the proud owner of a big, hard lump. I missed the last 3 or so units from a BD 100.
Im not mega concerned about it right now. It's not getting bigger, it's not warm or red. No bad smell, and it's HARD. No squishy places to indicate pus formation. No fever or aches or pains. The lump is a bit tender to the touch, but that all.
So, knowing that there is not currently a raging infection in there, the questions.

WHAT IS IT? My roommate and I discussed the notion of it being the bolus from the shot, plus some inflammation. Since meth is lipophobic, it would make sense that it wouldn't readily absorb into all of the surrounding tissue. This may be a total twacked out fallacy. Input?
How long should I expect it to last?
Anything I can do to improve it or hasten the healing time?
I have been told that necrosis can be an issue. What are the early signs, and what home care can be done to prevent it?
 
Captain.Heroin said:
Crystal methamphetamine can be cut with inactive ingredients, although it's generally one of the more pure drugs available in the drug scene these days.

And yes, if you look at the DEA micrograms, you'll see different ratios of isomers for huge quantities of seized methamphetamine; one seizure was almost 100% d-isomer, others were almost all l-isomer. It's hard to gauge how quality your product is unless you're a seasoned user.
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Well, after some experimentation I can report the depressing fact that consumption of the cheap, legal and mild stimulant methiopropamine gives rise to a huge cross tolerance with crystal meth. The meth turned out to be absolute rocket fuel when tested by someone else who had never used MPA. Whereas I was left with a pleasant, warm glow & little else the other test subject started out by suddenly leaping up and doing the dishes &, some 12 hours later, having totally cleaned, tidied, disinfected, polished his entire flat launched into that fateful, endless sentence any true speed freak loves / fears in equal measure... "It all started when I was four yeas old and......"

Hopefully it will be reversible and to this end i've stopped using MPA and will let you know how it goes.

Pharm...
 
I snort it on a regular basis --I've heard those "voices" konshuss was talking about the whole "just do another one you'll feel better"
Of course though after a first good hit off of a bong or a couple snorted lines the high isn't the same which I have discovered.

I've been using all together for 8 months but only consistently for 5mo. I don't think I'd ever have the balls to inject anything mainly because it doesn't "feel right" within my rational thinking. For example; I hear those voices but most of the time especially at night when I know I have to get up the next day I find myself ignoring them. As if there were different levels of thought within my brain--top most important would be my philosophical level and everything else haha

Anyone else feel that way in here?
 
Well SWIM is currently trying to come down off some fucking proper ice. But in regards to IV meth, ESP with ice, use little water, just enough for it to dissolve in the liquid (using your plunger to stir if need be), process should take around 15-20 seconds depending on quality. For example, newer users should use maybe 0.1g of ice for a shot, and maybe around 25-30 units of water. Do not cook your shot, it'll fuck your meth. Just cold shoot it after the methamphetamine dissolves. Use a cotton to filter, hit vein of choice, register, slam it on in there and enjoy the fucking show. Remember the less water and more concentrated the shot, the better the result you will get. I love it. SWIM also smokes, snorts occasionally and eat its. Entirely depends on what kind of experience you're am looking for. Generally the "oh fuck, I did too much" doesn't convey in the world of IV drug use. You can always hit again, rule of thumb, try a point, see how it hits yah, and go from there.


Enjoy
 
Fuelmeonce said:
For example, newer users should use maybe 0.1g of ice for a shot, and maybe around 25-30 units of water.
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No; this is too high of a dosage for a first timer. I used to IV methamphetamine for 9 months (quit a long time ago), and even if I was to start up again, I would only use 25mg to test purity/quality; 100mg (which is the same as 0.1g) is a HUGE dosage, and this would render me vomiting/dry heaving for a long time.

I don't want people to think 0.1g is a good first time IV dosage, because some people who are especially not in good health could have heart attacks or a stroke from IVing a point at the worst, but even at best, vomiting while on a stimulant is unpleasant.
 
Thank you for the clarification!

And yes, Capt Heroin is absolutely right I'm a case where my tolerance is pretty absurd, and I'm on day 3 so I'm little laggy so to speak at the moment. Apologize for the first dosage recommendation, I'd have to agree on the first time dosage being in neighborhood of around 25mgs.


If the ice is really good I usually don't go beyond 250mgs in a single dose, but PLEASE DO NOT ATTEMPT THIS UNLESS YOU KNOW YOUR TOLERANCE WELL.
 
Fuelmeonce said:
Thank you for the clarification!

And yes, Capt Heroin is absolutely right I'm a case where my tolerance is pretty absurd, and I'm on day 3 so I'm little laggy so to speak at the moment. Apologize for the first dosage recommendation, I'd have to agree on the first time dosage being in neighborhood of around 25mgs.


If the ice is really good I usually don't go beyond 250mgs in a single dose, but PLEASE DO NOT ATTEMPT THIS UNLESS YOU KNOW YOUR TOLERANCE WELL.
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No worries. :)

There definitely is a huge difference between a first timer dosage and a "I've been going at this for a few days now..." dosage. ;)

You can always do another shot with a new rig, but you can't do less once it's in your system. And I can verify it's highly unpleasant to go through vomiting from doing too much in a shot.
 
One of the worst feelings is doing too much meth in a shot and thinking your going to seize or have a heart attack or stroke and maybe even die, is it really worth it? Seems people enjoy doing too much coke in a shot, ive never done IV coke and probably never will due to anxiety and damage surely already done by the meth. I have chronic anxiety too so it makes it sooo much worse. A few weeks ago I had a few shots of meth, a few MDMA pills and at the end of the night a few lines of coke and after I snorted the coke my friends were laughing at me because I had to take my shirt off as my heart pounding against it was driving me crazy and making me anxious. Ive been using a lot lately because im quitting heroin and opiates, coming down on my suboxone and really want to do well so ive been shooting meth to get that dopamine rush(smart logic hey :/ ) id usually get from heroin but I dont like it anywhere near as much as H and meth makes me so anxious and panicky. Benzos are a must for me for comedowns and sometimes even while im high. But now im addicted to xanax, fuck my problems just keep coming. Sticking to only xanax(which im reducing on before I have a fit from wd's) atm and I have some methadone for tomorrow so that will be my fun for awhile. Dont think ill ever do meth again, not that id like to I love it but its just too much for me these days and im only 22 :/
 
Mizz Djinn said:
So, there's been a couple of posts up about missing a bit of a shot, and getting a big. hard lump.
I currently, am the proud owner of a big, hard lump. I missed the last 3 or so units from a BD 100.
Im not mega concerned about it right now. It's not getting bigger, it's not warm or red. No bad smell, and it's HARD. No squishy places to indicate pus formation. No fever or aches or pains. The lump is a bit tender to the touch, but that all.
So, knowing that there is not currently a raging infection in there, the questions.

WHAT IS IT? My roommate and I discussed the notion of it being the bolus from the shot, plus some inflammation. Since meth is lipophobic, it would make sense that it wouldn't readily absorb into all of the surrounding tissue. This may be a total twacked out fallacy. Input?
How long should I expect it to last?
Anything I can do to improve it or hasten the healing time?
I have been told that necrosis can be an issue. What are the early signs, and what home care can be done to prevent it?
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it could be staph. Go get it looked at. Method isn't really the best shit for a vein. Ever.
 
Fuelmeonce said:
Thank you for the clarification!

And yes, Capt Heroin is absolutely right I'm a case where my tolerance is pretty absurd, and I'm on day 3 so I'm little laggy so to speak at the moment. Apologize for the first dosage recommendation, I'd have to agree on the first time dosage being in neighborhood of around 25mgs.


If the ice is really good I usually don't go beyond 250mgs in a single dose, but PLEASE DO NOT ATTEMPT THIS UNLESS YOU KNOW YOUR TOLERANCE WELL.
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Uh yea that's like a quarter of a gram in one go and a tenth in the arm. That's way tooooo much for a new user. If its pure that would be a line between an o.d. or a super bad time.
 
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