Help me plan my next cycle please

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Yellowcabs

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• Age
25
• Weight/height
180 lbs. 6'2"
• AAS experience (have you used AAS before, what doses, results?)
Have ran three bottles of epistane and two bottles of test prop, one bottle sustoject 250 and one bottle dbol
PCT was clomid and nolva. Later I did letro to get rid of gyno
• Goals (what are you trying to achieve with AAS?)
Put on muscle mass, lower body fat
• BF%
about 9%
• Diet
Healthy, all organic. No junk. Have all my macros in check.
• Work out schedule
Usually 6 days a week; split -back/biceps: chest/triceps: legs: shoulders


What I trying to achieve this cycle is to put some weight back on, and lower my body fat. After my cycles I listed above I was at 208 lbs with about 9% body fat. My summer job killed my routine and I lost quite a bit of weight. I'm back down to 180 lbs now. Right now I have ample time to train and the resources to eat what ever I want so I want to take full advantage.

I have a bottle of test prop left so I'll probably use that. What else should I add in to achieve my goals? I want to keep my water weight down, keep my hard look I have now. I want to have good stamina and keep/increase my sex drive. Put on maybe 10 lbs of muscle and lower my body fat 1 or 2%.

The other thing I'm worried about is my gyno coming back, so what should I do to make sure it doesn't? Letro through the whole cycle? I'm worried about my sex drive.

Thanks
 
your 6'2 and only 180 so test E 500-750mg a week for 16 weeks, Dbol 30mg a day for the first 4 weeks and adex .25mg eod . if your trying to gain 10Lbs ur not gonna drop any bodyfat either bulk or cut u can't do both at the same time just eat eat eat
cause even at your biggest 208 is tiny if your 6'2
 
Voxide said:
Winstrol. 50mg a day.

With the prop, that is.
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This sounds like what I want to do. I could use help setting up the cycle. Do you recommend I get Winstrol orals or injectables? I only have 10ml left of test prop do you think I should get one more bottle? How does 100mg test prop EOD and 50mg Winstrol ED sound?

The Real Fatman said:
your 6'2 and only 180 so test E 500-750mg a week for 16 weeks, Dbol 30mg a day for the first 4 weeks and adex .25mg eod . if your trying to gain 10Lbs ur not gonna drop any bodyfat either bulk or cut u can't do both at the same time just eat eat eat
cause even at your biggest 208 is tiny if your 6'2
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Yeah, I'm not trying to get that big again. I have to play basketball in multiple leagues and I had no stamina when I was on dbol.
 
You're going to need more than a 1g of test if you plan on running a full length cycle...And don't shoot the winny. Drink it.

If playing basketball is your goal then I would recommend swearing off gear altogether. Winstrol will fuck your joints during the time period you're on it. It's not bad enough to make you real-life dysfunctional, but playing basketball won't be in your best interest. It's not like any basketball player has size or strength anyway so don't worry about that. Rather than trying to make the best of your ample training time and limited calories with gear, you should wait until you're more stable, and fully take advantage of the gear once you're training hard again.


With all due respect, if you don't like even being average sized at 6'2 200, what on earth are you taking steroids for? You can gain those 20lbs back easily. Muscle memory isn't going to fail you. Start a clean bulk, run some ECA if you want to get the body fat down.
 
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Voxide said:
You're going to need more than a 1g of test if you plan on running a full length cycle...And don't shoot the winny. Drink it.

If playing basketball is your goal then I would recommend swearing off gear altogether. Winstrol will fuck your joints during the time period you're on it. It's not bad enough to make you real-life dysfunctional, but playing basketball won't be in your best interest. It's not like any basketball player has size or strength anyway so don't worry about that. Rather than trying to make the best of your ample training time and limited calories with gear, you should wait until you're more stable, and fully take advantage of the gear once you're training hard again.


With all due respect, if you don't like even being average sized at 6'2 200, what on earth are you taking steroids for? You can gain those 20lbs back easily. Muscle memory isn't going to fail you. Start a clean bulk, run some ECA if you want to get the body fat down.
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Yeah that's good advice. I have all of this gear just sitting here, a bottle of prop, bottle of letro, bottle of aromasin, half a bottle of dbol, clomid, and nolva. So I was just going to do one more cycle to use some of that up. And it's not like I didn't like being that big, I loved it. It's just that basketball along with lifting are the two things I like doing most. My shoulders got too big, it completely messed up my shot, I got slower and my stamina was terrible.

I guess need to really have lifting be my main focus if I'm going to be on gear. If I'm going to do this, I should get another bottle of prop and enough winstrol to run 50mg ED through the whole cycle? I'v seen it in tabs, injections, and one place I'v seen has it in drinkable form, you think I should get that one?

e92 said:
tren and prop
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The Real Fatman said:
wouldn't suggest tren for a basketball player that shit does not mix well with cardio
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I don't know much about tren, but yeah I'd like to keep my stamina up if possible.
 
You could always just sell the gear to one of your buddies and winstrol will fuck your joints for ballin if u really feel the need to juice maybe prop and deca or prop and epistane but the winny will not help you for basketball and u can drink the injecatble winstrol but it will taste like ass, the tabs would work fine
 
ok cool. I have done Epistane quite a bit so I'd like to try something else, I'll do some research on Deca.
 
I don't know the levle of competition you're doing yellowcab, but if you play NCAA or ever hope to go pro/semi pro i'd avoid any long acting esters like nandrolone deconate (deca). This will show up on a test for a WHILE. Stick to short acting esters like testosterone propinate. If you're looking for the benefits on your joints that Deca provides, try it's short acting brother - nandrolone phenyl propinate (NPP). Stick to a low dose and it will still do wonders. Best of luck!
 
HeavyMetal64 said:
I don't know the levle of competition you're doing yellowcab, but if you play NCAA or ever hope to go pro/semi pro i'd avoid any long acting esters like nandrolone deconate (deca). This will show up on a test for a WHILE. Stick to short acting esters like testosterone propinate. If you're looking for the benefits on your joints that Deca provides, try it's short acting brother - nandrolone phenyl propinate (NPP). Stick to a low dose and it will still do wonders. Best of luck!
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Good advice.
 
Thanks for the advice guys. I'v decided to to the mature thing this time and hold off on the gear for now. I feel like my natural sex drive is just now coming back, and like voxide said, with my muscle memory I am already gaining the weight back naturally.
 
Alright I think I'm ready to go again. I'v gained about 7 lbs since I started this thread and kept my body fat at 8%. Bball is over and I'm not working over the next couple months so I want to take full advantage.

What I was thinking of doing is:

10ml test prop (I'v been holding on to this for a while)
10ml test prop (gotta get another one)
2 Bottles of Epistane (I'v done this alot, but I know it works and I don't know much about other compounds that would do the same thing)

Does this look ok? What would a proper PCT be? Should my gyno stay gone with this?
 
Yellowcabs said:
Alright I think I'm ready to go again. I'v gained about 7 lbs since I started this thread and kept my body fat at 8%. Bball is over and I'm not working over the next couple months so I want to take full advantage.

What I was thinking of doing is:

10ml test prop (I'v been holding on to this for a while)
10ml test prop (gotta get another one)
2 Bottles of Epistane (I'v done this alot, but I know it works and I don't know much about other compounds that would do the same thing)

Does this look ok? What would a proper PCT be? Should my gyno stay gone with this?
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If you're still gaining lean mass, why are you looking at steroids?
 
I just want to take full advantage of all the time I have right now
 
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Yellowcabs said:
Alright I think I'm ready to go again. I'v gained about 7 lbs since I started this thread and kept my body fat at 8%. Bball is over and I'm not working over the next couple months so I want to take full advantage.

What I was thinking of doing is:

10ml test prop (I'v been holding on to this for a while)
10ml test prop (gotta get another one)
2 Bottles of Epistane (I'v done this alot, but I know it works and I don't know much about other compounds that would do the same thing)

Does this look ok? What would a proper PCT be? Should my gyno stay gone with this?
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You can't go wrong with Test Prop, 50mg everyday or 100mg every other day is good. Save the Epistane for the last 5 weeks of your cycle to harden your gains up and lower your body fat even more at 40mg every day. Personally, I love Epistane. To me it's the poor man's Anavar. During your cycle you should run Anastrozole at 0.50mg to prevent gyno and bloat. When you start taking the Epistane, lower the Anastrozole dose to 0.25mg because of the anti-estrogen properties of Epistane.

Proper PCT would be this after you are finished with your cycle:

Week 1: 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva ED
Week 2: 50mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva ED
Week 3: 50mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva ED
Week 4: 20mg Nolva ED
 
Thanks, few more questions:

I should take .50mg Anastrozole ED? I can get 100 tabs for $100 but they are only .25mg.

This cycle should take about 70 days right? with the PCT?

For my PCT this is almost exactly what I did for my last cycle, and about 3 weeks into it my gyno popped up with no real signs or symptoms. Anything I can do to make sure it doesn't come back?
 
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