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Regional Heroin Availability v11 - Price discussion removed

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If you forgive the namedropping, many years ago I used to score with Thunders. My flatmate was employed as an 'assistant tour manager' - his sole task was to get drummer Nolan to the gigs and position himself behind his drum kit, to catch and prop him back back up whenever the nodding fuck fell off - and I got roped into an entertaining madness. Johnny's record company provided a flat off Shepherds Market and, walking home late one night, someone remarked on the apparent vulnerability of the local chemist. " I'm not breaking into any pharmacy," grumbled Thunders, " You forget, I'm a fucking superstar." In taxis, he'd elbow you in the ribs to point out every poster we passed advertising one of his gigs as if he couldn't quite believe how famous he'd become. A highly charismatic performer and a real person. A very sad end.

Jerry Nolan seemed like a great character too & he was as funny as fuck!!! :) In this clip he is talking about touring England, is the when you hooked up with them Charlie? Did you see the Sex Pistols as well? :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6-7Ja72o48

I'd say they were good times! Oh why was i born too late!!! Just like Katt i was 5 years old in 1977, but i have listened to & still listen to PUNK music from that time. Did you go to many gigs Charlie? Go on make me jealous!! :) I have always heard that the drugs were better/stronger around that time, do you agree with that Charlie?

@ Katt: I know how you feel about turning 40, i'm turning 40 next year as well & i'm starting to panic, but in my head i still feel 19! thats why i asked the question about live fast & die young, or live healthy & live long. I guess Charlie hit the nail on the head by saying once you look after your self you can still have your fun & live long! Sweet! :)
 
don,t you fucking hate it when you find a supply of half decent gear what you can catch a gouge on under half a sixth. Run out of money plan all day at work how u getting money
borrow the dough ring the dealer and his phone is fucking off same thing happened to me in july with decent gear dealers getting busted, not again #
this one only lasted the week wtf
 
Jerry Nolan seemed like a great character too & he was as funny as fuck!!! :) In this clip he is talking about touring England, is the when you hooked up with them Charlie? Did you see the Sex Pistols as well? :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6-7Ja72o48

I'd say they were good times! Oh why was i born too late!!! Just like Katt i was 5 years old in 1977, but i have listened to & still listen to PUNK music from that time. Did you go to many gigs Charlie? Go on make me jealous!! :) I have always heard that the drugs were better/stronger around that time, do you agree with that Charlie?

@ Katt: I know how you feel about turning 40, i'm turning 40 next year as well & i'm starting to panic, but in my head i still feel 19! thats why i asked the question about live fast & die young, or live healthy & live long. I guess Charlie hit the nail on the head by saying once you look after your self you can still have your fun & live long! Sweet! :)


Yes, he was a witty chap. And Sex Pistols gigs were fun. But it was all a long time ago and I was very much a peripheral anonymous. Remember, every old junkie played with Hendrix. It's you and yours who are the stars. Shine. Sorry to learn of your hard luck, 4x4, sure you'll rise above it.
 
i am sure i will but there is no consistency to life now a days
watching full metal jacket classic aint the word , dont make them like they used too
 
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@ Katt: I know how you feel about turning 40, i'm turning 40 next year as well & i'm starting to panic, but in my head i still feel 19! thats why i asked the question about live fast & die young, or live healthy & live long. I guess Charlie hit the nail on the head by saying once you look after your self you can still have your fun & live long! Sweet! :)[/QUOTE]

i am not bothered about turning 40 at all
all i am concerned about is the future of my habit
it can't just go on till i am the waster/pensioner
 
Worth a stab at street-scoring, CB? Or trying to track down idiot former acquaintances?

Or the same average-at-best gear that seemed to be the consensus when I asked about last week?

Don't say 'pengy'. Ever. Unless you're talking to babies about penguins. Or baby penguins. :)
 
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Havent had it this week as Im only messing up my methadone taper, even using one day a week, but I've been able to buy like half a half eight for 50euro just south of the city centre the last month or so. Seems to be in good supply and quality is decent. Looks and tastes proper on the foil. Not overly strong, I'd need .4 turn on to get a rush and nod.
 
Not overly strong, I'd need .4 turn on to get a rush and nod.

Hi Tryptamite :) hows you keeping? So you started using again? I'm the same - on & off!! I didn't score for about 7 weeks & then i caved in & got some last weekend!

Yeah i agree, the gear in Dublin is still not overly strong, i'm beginning to really think that this is the way its gonna be from now on! Its a pity coz there are plenty of reports of people getting proper full strength gear in England. Call me fussy, but we should all be fussy as gear is not cheap! If the quality doesn't get back to the way it was then i'm gonna really try to stay clean. I wouldn't mind as much if the gear even went back to the quality that we had a year ago, but i can never see it going back to the way it was up to three years ago. The gear took a dive in strength about 3 years ago & its just been going downhill since then....

Hope your keeping well Tryptmite :) its been a poxey summer, its said to be the coldest summer in 50 years!!! I heard them say on the telly this morning that it could snow in the next few weeks!!! Holy crap!!! 8( Although i look forward to lighting a nice fire & staying indoors, all nice & cosy!!Take care mate!! Talk to you sooooon!!! :)
 
pigs

got jumped on again by dibble, one smiling round the front of a van while the other tackled me from behind it, down my arsecrack in the street the dirty foks!, got fuk all though so fuk it everyone round by me gettin done must be a grassin cunt lurkin in plain site !!
 
got jumped on again by dibble, one smiling round the front of a van while the other tackled me from behind it, down my arsecrack in the street the dirty foks!, got fuk all though so fuk it everyone round by me gettin done must be a grassin cunt lurkin in plain site !!

phew!
glad you got out of that dave
keep in touch
 
good gear in bristol, lovrly dark stuff, im happy, have been good for a while now for me. things look back on track.. no more subs at all, and only methadone just in case but iv always dun tht. things are settled. sweet
 
Charle
When/where were BL meet-ups infiltrated?
Honestly I don't know but I think one meet up atleast was infiltrated in 2005 or there abouts, remmeber reading about it as a warning when I was new to the site in 08'. Apparently BL used to be more tolerant. Now I find talk about price discussions rediculous ( I have a thread called cannabis and terroir) were I had a link to a high times with prices for cannabis from the 70s and I posted from the 80s...I was told "I don't care if it was yesterday or 40 years ago price dissucssion isn't allowed.). Actaully this was in the lounge in all fairness which is a violation of their rules, which earned me a infraction...cannabis forum is more tolerant. My post had to do with classic landrace starins and the effect of climate, soils, ect...analogous to the concept of French wine and appelations and has some good links(or California AVA's).
. I researched it at length. I'll post my opium thread when i find it (if it hasn't been relegated to archives- the dustbins of BL history
At any rate I digress, but I've heard that sited in the past. The Hive which has snapshots that live on through Rhodium was taken down and its founder, a man from texas that was an MDMA chemist (and author of a landmark book on the issue) Hobart Houston or something like this, i think, was tracked down by CBS news and served a prison sentece. Others followed suit (there is a story of a florida cook that got a heavy handed sentence handed down by the US district atorney in their archives.) I think that's partly what their rules are based on- adjusted continent to continent based on the degree of free speach and tolerance.

But anyway, I thouroughly enjoyed your stories. I was not part of any rock scene but in my 20s was part of the clubbing/ San Diego underworld which were full of beautiful girls and E. Heroin was strating to make a presence in the methamphetamine saturated scene. Coke and Heroin actually had a subculture in affluent La Joja (a Beverly Hills by the beach) and mission beach back then full of 20 somethings that had either graduated college and were hanging out or were working in the tourists trade, but anyway lots of beach people...kinda like a ghetto by the beach for working class californians and people from across the US and, Brazil, and Europe. In the early- mid 90s it was off the hook. Not quite Ibiza like (because it had a permanet population), but there was a party every night were alcohol, E, coke, and meth, were prevalent. Lots of hot refreshingly down to earth girls (there was so many, they couldn't afford to be stuck up.) Thats the scene were I hooked up with my now wife, an I was young enough that gear didn't fuck up my sex drive too much (though methamphetamine is a cure for that and heroin + bezos mitigate amphetamine psychosis). That unique place is gone, the units turned into vacation rentals. Anyway, there was a small circle of junkies there, too. It was probaly like a poor mans seppo version of Ibiza, but with more permanent residents.

We just had an electrical blackout throught San Diego, part of Orange County, Arizona, and Mexico down to Encinada. Some dude apparently litteraly pressed the wrong button- My hospital has 4 generators, only 1 came on.:( So there was mayhem...but they restored partial power (generator 2 before we had to ambubag ventilated patients.)

Anyway, a love your stories...
It was from folks like Thunders I first appreciated the incredible phenomenon of celebrity.When incredibly hot women of impeccable lineage permit scrawny junkies to do unspeakable things to them just for an introduction
=D

I love hearing stories like that...infact you write some entertaining stories amongst your inciteful posting.

Nowadays, of course, about the most exciting person I meet is the milkman. Oh, but I was young once....
...atleast you have a milkman...i have to go to the store to get milk...my daughters drug of choice....milkman went the way of the dinousaur in this country in the 80s.:(

But in the 90s I had a dope man delivering to my door even though "veinte minutos" usually ment 2-3 hours, i hear now they have improved customer service. In Ohio you got a manager that follows up with a call- I hear they give you a free bag if they take more than 30 minutes to get their- they give you a free bag- or they were doing that a year ago per bluelight. Anyway hope all is going well on your side of the pond. Keep those stories comming. I actually got a responce or 2 on my Platzspiz post...not much but that was cool. Gonna update it...don't know where to post cocaine maintenance conisdersation or my long but insightful article comparing the British, Swiss, and US (squashed) models of heroin maintenance and harm reduction... its kinda a long read.

Anyway "life suspended and other posts are fucking tight"... keep them comming my friend.
 
Crappy Gear

Hi

I'm just wondering if anyone else is having problems with heroin that they have been getting recently?

I've been pretty lucky, in the main, the gear I get is pretty good. However, I picked up a Henry last night and after smoking shed loads (and I mean, shed loads), I am not even getting a nod off of it. It's running on the foil but is really dark in colour and very sticky. It is leaving very dark tracks on the foil too. It seems to be holding me but I am not getting a buzz off it at all.

I remember about this time last year things started going downhill and wondering if it's yet another scenario of last year's events(?) I'm hoping I am wrong and that this is just a one off bad deal.

I would be interested to know if anybody else has been getting a run on bad gear recently?

Thanks
 
Ructions
Yeah i agree, the gear in Dublin is still not overly strong, i'm beginning to really think that this is the way its gonna be from now on! Its a pity coz there are plenty of reports of people getting proper full strength gear in England

A question I would have is who is responsible for bringing the gear into Eire. I would venture Paki, Turkish, or some other ethnic group. What criminal syndicates are supplied and who are the street level dealers? Are they ethnic Irish mostly or what you'all call asia (our definition of Asians are those from the far East- China, Taiwan, Korea, Japan, ect...But I digress... my theory and i believe it to be credible based on US models over the last 20 years I've been an on and off addict seem to suggest that when the street dealers or one step removed are of the same ethicities as the drug trafficking organizations- you see a decrease in the price and increase in quality/ although it takes time for the reajustement to take place. It doesn't hurt when Rx drugs compete with ilicit ones. So who are the players- atleast at the street levels- no set in stone predictions but it might help with market trend predictions. Based on my experience- dope can take a dive for a few years (94-95 sucked) but in 5 years tye price and quality started to soar- oxycodone was a source of competition but the priced dropped and quality increased inspite of hightened border security. 2 factors- the Border Brothers (slang for mexicans controlled the trade West of the Mississipi. East of that Colombians got in the gear game, making #4 distributed by dominican criminal syndicates, out compteting SE Asian # 4 ( Chemists were impoted from SE Asia to get the receipe right). Story was that your average coke head has a shelf life of 5 years were as gear fiends go on and on so the idea to grow poppies was initiated by an affilate of one of the syndicates that replaced the formidable Cali cartel- which proved a very profitable move. Chicago is unique in that The 4 worlds major heroins are available (though afghan and SEA are in shorter supply.) Ohio bucks the trend and is tar coutry controlled by Mexican DTOs-hence lower prices/ customer service

My point is the ethic criminal syndicate structure, if the is a crystal ball, though defective, can be predictive or indictive, based by past trends in this hemisphere- so whats the scene. What groups are invo.ved to ultimately put something together, Are the purveyors that you hook up from Irish or of a different ethnicity- belive me its relevant- discrimination is rampant in the drug world and the structure is potentially a good barometer of the future.

If you don't want to write about the scene take this take home message, in general, the more thnic groups involved, the higher the price, poorer the quality of the gear. Even if DTO's (and this is pure speculation), the dealers and criminal syndicates are gona take advatage of the perception of a drought until competions comes around.

The flip side is that they want the dope to be strong enough and cheap enough to have loyal customers and capture greater market share (new users)
The latter is more of a factor when their are competing syndicates.

Bottom line- price will fall and quality will increase- it could take months or years- but dope fiend with big habits are greater solid, long term customers. But in grought, they'll try to get by with the limited supply they have. The whole benzo cut is ludicrous...the future will tell, but what is the basic structure (least at the street level). Again less change of ethnicities_=lbetter quality overall, again based on the North American Model. So who are the players when putting somethig together in Eire?
 
Did you check out your regional forum? They have threads on the drought, and also a social thread about it as well.
 
I will move it into EADD, but it may get merged into the heroin availability thread.

Homeless --> EADD
 
Portuguese Heroin

As many of u know i haven't used in awhile , well i did late last night , and the gear was from Portugal ,

It absolutley pissed on anything i have had , in , well since the last time i was in Portugal.
I know my tolerance was down but still i didn't have more than half a . n i was nodding crazy , no benzos were used to potentiate so i 'm 100% sure it was the quality of the gear.

I was told that this was the average stuff that had been around northern Portugal and to not expect to much. As far better stuff had been availible on n off .

Conclusion Gear in the UK is fukin expensive , n the worst its been since i have used.

I still have about a .3 of this stuff left , its a grey powder , i have only smoked it n am to scared to do anything else as its so strong n my tolerance is low.

I still feel very nice now n if it wasn't for prior commitments i would pop a couple of benzos n gouch out again.
 
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