Going to Jail - Need to get massive.

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I'd give this a read for someone looking to start a cycle to gain some muscle fast (beginner)

Here’s some info for guys who want to gain 20-25lbs on a cycle.


Everyone wants to know how to gain high poundages on a cycle. We’ve all got a “friend” in a gym somewhere that gained 25lbs on his last cycle and we want to do the same. We ask ourselves…What is his secret? Is the juice he’s taking that good? Is it a good diet in conjunction with the test.. is that what is responsible? Well, here’s the answer.. NO, his particular anabolic compound of choice be it Sustanon, Winstrol, Dbol, Tren, etc… isn’t so great that whoever takes one of those compounds will grow.. nor is his diet so “on” that he will gain more than us.

Here’s the truth.. and some of you won’t like it.. Some of you may even get pissed off.. The reason these guys grow so much on their cycles is because they shouldn’t even be using steroids to begin with… And that’s the truth… That may sound a bit confusing.. yes? Well allow me to elaborate…

You take a 20 yr old male. He has been lifting on and off for six months or so… He’s about 6 foot tall maybe a little shorter.. 5’10” or so.. He weighs about 165lbs.. He’s got a little bit of definition.. nothing big.. when his shirt is off people can tell he’s been working out.. He decides one day that he wants to take steroids, He sees the really big guys in the gym and he wants to be like them right now.. he doesn’t want to wait any longer.. in his mind six months has been long enough.. ******************** .. he reads a little .. finds a hook up.. and decides to run 250mg of test and 300mg of deca for two months and ends up weighing around 185 or 190.. All of his friends are amazed.. he’s amazed He’s put on some size.. he looks like a weight lifter.. he doesn’t look like someone who could compete.. but he looks like he’s finally arrived on the Body building scene… His closest friends are so impressed that they want to run the exact same cycle .. He tells them exactly what he did.. how he ate etc… Now, a few months go by.. all of a sudden the kid is back to around 165 maybe 170.. He thinks.. “Oh man.. I’ve got to get back on cycle.. I need those drugs to be big.. if I don’t.. I just can’t grow… Steroids require that I stay on all the time to maintain the kind of size that I want”… I guess that’s what he has to do; huh; stay on all the time?

Now, here’s the reason he gained 25lbs on his cycle.. He was so far from his genetic potential that once the anabolic compounds were introduced into his system he grew like a weed.. His body didn’t need to struggle to put on that mass, because it was quite capable of adding that much mass naturally.. The steroids just sped it up..

it is for lack of a better or more accurate word.. a short cut to get to where he could have gotten natural anyway. His inevitable weight loss after coming off his "super" cycle wasn’t from the lack of steroids.. it was from a lack of a proper foundation.. a Lack of proper training skills, and a lack of muscular maturation…

Here’s the deal.. guys who need steroids aren’t the guys who are growing 25+lbs per cycle.. they are gaining 10lbs and hopefully keeping 5-8.. They are struggling to even do that.. I’ll tell you from personal experience.. I am 30 yrs old 6’2” .. I am 284lbs currently.. I am 17% BF (I’m a power lifter/strongman.. so I keep a little extra fat on me)…If I wanted to keep the same body fat % I have now and weigh 300lbs.. I would have to run a very long cycle. or in all honesty it will take me two full cycles to get to 3 bills..

An average cycle for me is about 750mg Test, 450mg Deca, 300mg EQ and Some Dbol in the front and at the end… Those are some fairly heavy dosages...Why don’t I gain 25lbs per cycle?

Because No matter how much gear I take.. no matter how much I eat.. my body is so far beyond it’s genetic potential that I simply can’t add that kind of radical mass anymore..

My body does a fairly good job of maintaining mass when I’m not on cycle.. but I do drop weight regardless.. and in truth, the only reason my body maintains it’s size as well as it does is because of Muscle maturation.. My body is used to carrying around that muscle.. it’s not a shock to my body to carry it around.. And I built a solid mass foundation naturally years ago.. I reached my genetic potential before I started using juice.. Lifting was a habit and a lifestyle for me because I played football from Junior high through College.

I’ve worked out in gyms all over the country.. and I have been doing so for the better part of a decade.. and I'll tell you, I have seen a lot of little guys blow up for a couple of months from a cycle only to deflate a couple of months later. It's the truth.. Muscle Maturation plays a huge key in keeping mass... that and proper training skills.. (and no hitting bench 3 days a week and squatting once every few months doesn't count)

So in truth, when you hear about some guy who gained 25-30lbs off of a cycle.. Please keep in mind that he is probably some impatient tiny punk that could have easily gained the same amount of muscle had he just been a little more patient.. If he had just been focused on learning how to train.. focused on how to eat…

This is a lifestyle.. there are no short cuts if you want to be the real deal.... There will never be a fly by nighter even win the smallest amateur comp in booney freaking Iowa if he hasn't been serious for years...

It's important that you guys learn that Juice may seem like the best short cut in the beginning... but whenever you add that much mass that quickly from gear.. Your body isn’t going to be ready for it.. it will literally fight you to keep it.. the sudden size and strength will stress the ligaments, tendons, bones and central nervous system and Your body will do everything that it can to shed those rapid muscle gains.. Decent muscle mass is only kept through time and hard work (cough.. cough.. it's a cliché.. but it's still true).. and it's important that your gains aren't so fast that the body can't adjust healthfully to it’s new weight gain..

I'll tell you, 80% of the people are wannabes and posers.. they are guys who won’t even be working out six months from now.. They are impatient and are looking for the shortcut.. they may even get a few short term results.. but in the long run they will come out behind everyone else (and when I say long run.. i mean less than a year or two)

These kind of guys will never be anything more than a hobbyist.. and in truth...that is probably the case in every other aspect of their lives as well, not just weight lifting..

So in the end my advice is this.. if you are wanting to add some mass. and you’re stuck.. learn a different training method.. change your diet.. and if you’re a good size.. (that’s when everyone who is in the room with you knows you’re a weight lifter.. if you walk in a room, and everyone in there doesn’t know that you lift… you are not ready for steroids) then come and sit down.. and we’ll talk about steroids.. until then… Learn how to train.. learn how to eat.. and spend some time in the gym.. you’ll be so much better off in the end…
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Yes I know this is an old thread
 
i've been to prison, and what i can tell you is there's a pecking order in prison.

know your place, don't act weak, keep to yourself, and you won't get "pecked".
 
Forget about bulking; forget about learning how to fight it is to late. Most of these guys lift every day and have been street fighting most of there lives. I spent 8 years in a maximum security prison for manslaughter. My advice make yourself a shank and be prepared to use it without any hesitation. The very first guy that tests you and one will: you stick him with that shank and don't stop til he is not moving.
 
I'm not gonna lecture you and tell you steroids are bad or you should do this or that etc. Right if you wanna bulk up fast I suggest you get some Test and some Decca and inject 5ml of each so mix them both together, twice a week. I did mine on wednesday and sunday. Hope this helps! Also eat loads and the fat will melt away aswell!
 
im skinny.always was.1,78 in height around 80 kilos tops.i spend very litle time in some jail.

the guys who were the leaders are ALL normal bodytypes and many are shorties and skinny guys.but they WILL fuck a man up in seconds.some people are killers by nature.others by the life they experienced.i think u are really scared and as one guy above said,no matter how big u are,them carnivores will smell that fear and devour you.anyway back to my experience.i got jumped by this monster the second day inside.he beat the crap out of me.after 3-4 days he jumped me again.that time he obliterated me.he was demanding some pretty weird shit from me.after 3 days hospitilised i took something from someone went up to him and told him im gonna devote the rest of my days on how to split his neck artery.he looked me in the eyes and he never bothered me again.its almost certain u will go through sum tough situations but i think is best to go down a few times as a fighter and earn your respect soon enough than avoiding contact and living constantly in fear and uncertainty.

of course the stronger u are the better but prison has other rules.when they say the strongets survives sometimes they mean the strongets is the one with both a healthy body AND a mind.

i wish u a peacefull time man.
 
Just read this whole thread now, and all I'm going to say is if you need gear to make you "hard" or "tough", you're never going to survive. The yard is not the same as your local gym across the street. Walk around with your arms out, you will be put in your place faster than you can say bitch tits.

soldier173 said:
Forget about bulking; forget about learning how to fight it is to late. Most of these guys lift every day and have been street fighting most of there lives. I spent 8 years in a maximum security prison for manslaughter. My advice make yourself a shank and be prepared to use it without any hesitation. The very first guy that tests you and one will: you stick him with that shank and don't stop til he is not moving.
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I really do not think this is good advice. Going from drug trafficking to murder is not a good transition. The guy fucked up by doing that, doesn't mean he should make it even worse and never get out. Keep to yourself, don't act like a tough guy and nobody will bother you.

That being said, look how old this thread is. OP is probably being pounded as we speak.
 
TheGlimmaMan said:
Clomid and Novla for PCT, why? please explain your logic in that?
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Nolva and Clomid has been the standard for PCT for decades. Both work to jump start your natural Test and Nolva helps prevent gyno from the estrogen rebound after you come off the gear.
 
Heck been awhile since your post and I hope it all went well...I spent a good amount of 9 yrs in my life in prison. Walked in skinny and came out fit as a hunting dog and with more courage than I had before I went in. Unfortunately I was an idiot to get there...oh well such is life. Aint it good to be out though ? Women smell f...ing wonderfull.
 
The way I see it you have 3 options...

Option 1: Do all the roids you can get your hands on. THen when you go to jail you lose your motivation, your aggression, your sex drive, and maybe even your will to live. You might end up LIKING that cack in yur arse. (Dont underestimate the negative side effects of roids).

Option 2: Flee the country. Duh? Get the fuck outta autralia, im sure youve have your fun there, the worlds a big place time to move on. Dont be a casualty of the war on drugs.

Option 3: Dont do any roids, keep your natural testosterone, keep your aggression, keep your natural edge given to you by your hormonal axis. This is enough for you to intimidate any and all of those clowns in jail, you dont need to risk roiding.
 
Im 19.

I am weight training, in about 4 months i have went from lifting 5kg on each arm,
to now lifting 14kg, but when i look in the mirror. i have definition but im not massive.

IF i ate lots more i think i could bulk up a bit more,
But i think mainly its genetics, my dad was a skinny runt until 21 odd then he kapowww and got big.

so im going to just enjoy being able to eat loads and not put it on for now, then wait until i fill out naturally.
 
google?

um why didn't the OP just google "australian jails, rape".

In about 1.2 seconds I got things like:



  1. Prison Rape
  2. "A study conducted in Australian prisons found that prison rape was experienced by at least 10% of male prisoners aged 18-25, with a small number of these victims reporting sexual assault on a daily basis. However, author Jeremy Prichard (2000) has contended that the incidence and frequency of prison rapes depends upon the unique social climate and institutional culture of the specific prison, and whether or not the prison houses certain individuals who may promote or spread sexually-abusive attitudes and the acceptance of prison rape within the prison subculture. Prison rapists, according to Prichard, sexually-abuse other inmates to gain a more powerful position in the prison sexual hierarchy, known as the "pecking order," and it is these "prisoner leaders" that must be targeted by correctional staff wishing to curb the incidence of prison rape. It is these individuals that "rule the roost," and maintain their dominance over their sex-slaves as an expression of their power and masculinity."

  • Hungry Beast Prison Rape

    If you knew that a man was going to be raped, would you want something done to stop it? Now, what if that man was in prison? Estimates on the sexual assault rate inside Australia’s prisons range from 2-14%. But the truth is, we don’t really know, because most of our various state-based Corrective Services Departments don’t ask. And even when they do, most prisoners are too scared to report it.

    The majority of men sexually assaulted in prison are not powerful, violent criminals. They are young and vulnerable, like the man with cerebral palsy who tells Hungry Beast his story of being raped after going to prison for driving without a license.

    This investigative report reveals a culture of rape inside Australia’s prisons that we - government and citizenry - seem to ignore. Do your human rights really stop just because you’re behind bars?
 
-Guido- said:
Nolva and Clomid has been the standard for PCT for decades. Both work to jump start your natural Test and Nolva helps prevent gyno from the estrogen rebound after you come off the gear.
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Guido, that was written in that manner as I already know why, I wanted to hear whoever posted that threads logic. Yes it has been the stanhdard for yrs, but times change bro, and so does pct. And not to slam you, but if you had read the entire thread you qouted me from, why would you quote me and tell me what I know, and then ask how deca is as a bulking drug? I know this site isnt all about the AAS, but give me a small break please!
 
TheGlimmaMan said:
Guido, that was written in that manner as I already know why, I wanted to hear whoever posted that threads logic. Yes it has been the stanhdard for yrs, but times change bro, and so does pct. And not to slam you, but if you had read the entire thread you qouted me from, why would you quote me and tell me what I know, and then ask how deca is as a bulking drug? I know this site isnt all about the AAS, but give me a small break please!
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I give break. Ball breaking that is lol.
 
-Guido- said:
I give break. Ball breaking that is lol.
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See I give breaks too, but what I like is to fuck with a mans testicles, just like you except my method is a lil funny, good for insanity and is perfect for the movie Hostel. They are so important for so many reasons, especially for keeping you male, but if someone were to hypothetically drive me into a blind psychopathic rage, that I would completely blame on the brown acid I took in 69 back at Woodstock, when I was back stage with Jimi Hendricks, and I told the man, its 69 we got the war in fuckin 'nam you gotta be patriotic while you rock the fuck on! and what does jimi do? He plays the Star Spangled Banner!! And so here we are back in 2011 Guido, and Im still bat shit crazy and someone puts ice picks in your balls. This would be a HUGE problem for your leydig cells as alas no matter how much HCG, Clomid or Novla you inject and swallow, once they rupture your an alto for the rest of your days, capisce?

And if anyone takes this seriously, cut back on the dose of whatever your taking as that is pure rambling nonsense, made to make no sense, except that his leydig cells would be fucked, and thats it. 8(
 
i really lol'd at this.
im turnin 25, n jus got out a few months ago....
i was bout 60kg when i got locked up,(and im back to around that again now, dammit...) for armed robbery with actual violence, home invasion, assualt gbh, n a few other things.
i had maybe 1 fight a month, and usually coz i wouldnt take shit.(wouldnt start it either but) i was fine. no rape, no floggins (cept once by four screws)
being "big" will bring as much trouble as it will save u from.

you will be viewed as a chance to gain status n pick on by ALL the other guys who are tougher than you.
ide put my money on myself winning in a fight against you, for the one simple fact, im not scared, i have heart, and i wont back down tilll im knocked the fuck out.
dude, seriously, size dnt matter, its mentallity.
your gunna learn all about that.
jus dnt talk up, do your own time, be respectful, n dont be a pussy (or fake being tougher than u are) n youll be fine.
 
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