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The GHB/GBL Addiction & Withdrawal Thread

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There is quite a big difference in the withdrawals from powdered pharm-grade GHB, and GBL. GBL gives you some really nasty withdrawals, while Pharm-Grade GHB Powder, I have never had any very serious w/ds. If I did, they were resolved within about 24-36 hours.

But G withdrawals don't even come close to Hydromorphone or Benzodiazepine withdrawals IMO.
 
After discovering i only had 25ml left last night and that my guy had messed up the order of my benzos so i cant get them til wednesday, ive only done 4ml since then, one time i went 9 hours.

At about 5 hour mark i was feeling uncomfortable, then at the 6 hour mark suddenly it felt like i got hit by a train and that up until 9 hours was pure hell, the shaking uncontrollably, my heart rate through the fucking roof and i started to get some strong visuals setting in, all along with extreme anxiety and panic.

i redosed, only small ish to take the edge off, not since then, feel the withdrawal coming on again but drinking vodka to see if i can go 9 hours again, thats how hard im trying just so i can face this with some benzos on wednesday morning, and not have the shakes whilst signing for the post lol. Im desperate for advice, at 9 hours it hadnt even peaked yet, and my mum is around so i cant see her seeing me like this, but chances are if i dont make this 20-25ml last to the extreme til wednesday she'll find me lying down in a ball crying and talking to myself (probably convulsing too).

Do benzos really help? or am i putting myself through hell trying to make this gbl last til wednesday til i get them? I should have some xanax and temazepam.

thanks to any advice whatsover, i just cant beleive how bad i felt at just 9 hours, what is it, maybe at least 12 hours to peak? Fuck.
 
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(sorry ! ) bump

Just had my last dose, wish me luck :\ thats 330ml at nearly 3 weeks 24/7 (started off around 30-35ml a day, last few days ive reduced to around 20-25ml), this is gonna be tough.

Have a few xanax, alot of valium, a couple of clonaz, might go get some vodka too.

Also beta blockers.

Furthest ive got so far is 6-9 hours, and that was bad enough, im absolutely bricking it, i've been awake for almost 48 hours already because of how worried i am. I think the first time i got wd's from this was over 2 years ago now, why didnt i fucking learn back then to stay away.
 
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You mean this thread? Yes read it all the way through.

Got to the 6 hour point, which is where i generally start feeling the awful effects, popped 40mg diaz and its given some mild releif, i dont want to go crazy on the benzos though and i used to be addicted and dont reallly wanna finish the G withdrawals then have to go onto a benzo taper again :\ Will clonazepam be off any help? It lasts a good duration too, i have some xanax but not much, would only save it if i felt a panic attack coming on.

Also whats the deal on redosing on beta blockers (prop), its got a short half life but then i read its duration of effect is much longer than the half life, dont want to od on heart meds lol.
 
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Sorrry B&B but if you had read the thread you would have seen the number of people telling you convert to GHB for the taper. I really feel for you but you mdont seem to have prepared for this one
 
Careful with the propranolol BnB, you're right about the duration of action vs half life - it can build up in the brain + other tissues even after it's been cleared from the blood, so go steady. If you are at all worried about your pulse rate being dangerously high or low, get some medical advice ASAP..

The medical world are pretty ignorant about G and G withdrawals but they'd be able to help with the consequences of it (and of propranolol OD) so don't hesitate to get help if you need it. Go steady, am sorry you are having such a rough time..

I am no expert in G withdrawals myself, sorry. But this thread really is full of good info, and if you've got medical concerns that can't be answered by this thread, it's a sign that you need to see a medical professional I think..

Good luck <3
 
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atm23 said:
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Sorrry B&B but if you had read the thread you would have seen the number of people telling you convert to GHB for the taper. I really feel for you but you mdont seem to have prepared for this one
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I know people say converting to GHB helps massively, but i just couldnt i had such a small amount of gbl left there was just no point, im confident i can get by on just benzos, i just dont wanna overdo the benzos and be back with a benzo habbit though.

Oh and thanks effie :)
 
Well nearly 10 hours now, maybe its because its the first time ive actually got a decent supply of benzos in before running out, i dont feel too bad, im still shakey and sweaty, feel depressed, have no urge to watch films or funny tv shows, will most likely browse BL, nothing as intense as when i tried with no benzos, without benzos i was reaching hell point at 9 hours before, but unless theres some huge peak in withdrawals at 16 hours in, and i take sensible amounts of benzos for 2/3 days, did 40mg valium at about 6 hours in, then recently just ate 1mg xanax, would prefer to save the xanax for a situation where i have to go out and not be pranging out, diazepam at home

2 things im worried about: prop dosing, i took a 40mg pill, then 20mg a few hours later, should i just take them if things like heart rate, sweats etc come back, they seem to help with the physical side quite alot.

benzo usage,trying to keep this at a minimum to avoid a tolerance addiction to them, last year i lost a year of my life to xanax/valium and it was a long drawn out proccess, 3 days of using benzos another few days after that or pregablin think i should be right as rain, so glad im prepared this time.
 
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Oh BnB, I hope you feel better and hope you don't fall into the G trap again. You'll get through it. I've got faith in you. Keep up the good work. As cliché as I sound I mean it and believe it or not, it will get better.

Wishing you an easy recovery.
 
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Well nearly 10 hours now, maybe its because its the first time ive actually got a decent supply of benzos in before running out, i dont feel too bad, im still shakey and sweaty, feel depressed, have no urge to watch films or funny tv shows, will most likely browse BL, nothing as intense as when i tried with no benzos, without benzos i was reaching hell point at 9 hours before, but unless theres some huge peak in withdrawals at 16 hours in, and i take sensible amounts of benzos for 2/3 days, did 40mg valium at about 6 hours in, then recently just ate 1mg xanax, would prefer to save the xanax for a situation where i have to go out and not be pranging out, diazepam at home

2 things im worried about: prop dosing, i took a 40mg pill, then 20mg a few hours later, should i just take them if things like heart rate, sweats etc come back, they seem to help with the physical side quite alot.

benzo usage,trying to keep this at a minimum to avoid a tolerance addiction to them, last year i lost a year of my life to xanax/valium and it was a long drawn out proccess, 3 days of using then another few days after that or pregablin think i should be right as rain, so glad im prepared this time.
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It sounds like your doing ok all things considered. As long as you have a decent supply of benzos and dont overdo it should be ok, I guess, at least keep positive if you can. You can worry about the benzo issues when you have the G issues done
 
I dont think 3-4 days of benzo use if i only use them as needed will bring back any benzo issues, its just always a worrying thought when you used to rely on them too.

anyway thanks for the kind words, now i just need to keep myself entertained all night (and the next night and so on lol)
 
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I dont think 3-4 days of benzo use if i only use them as needed will bring back any benzo issues, its just always a worrying thought when you used to rely on them too.

anyway thanks for the kind words, now i just need to keep myself entertained all night (and the next night and so on lol)
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you should be fine so. Its nice to have the benzos there as a safety net when you are going through this w/d
 
;So glad you seem to be through the worste....good job man....as you were;)
 
thanks guys, its nearly 48 hours in, i think i can recall people saying about 40 hours or so is when things start getting better rather than worse.

Im happy the benzos managed to get rid of most of the physical symptoms, although im still shakey and drenched in sweat, some minor visual distortions etc.

Mentally i feel like hell, so very low, i was considering taking a 100mg 5htp cap, but not sure if thats a good idea if ive been on benzos and prop, but i have no idea.

Ive taken quite alot of xanax the past 2 days which is worrying since i used to be addicted to the things and the last thing i want is to finally come off gbl then get a rebound from the xanax, i have a back up of some valium to smoothen that out i think. Ment to be seeing relatives tonight, might just pop a clonazepam as that seems to be the least sedating benzo ive tried, but good for anxiety.

Anyway, thanks very much for the kind words<3
 
hey bnb congrats on the g tapering, but dont replace one vice for another! do you produce music or anything creative? i find thaat helps take my mind off cravings, also as hard as it is get off bl for a bit, trust me it helps, moving somewhere new without wifi helped me no end!
 
Woo BnB, over the hump, well done, am really pleased! :)

Now you've got to stay un-addicted.. read over your posts here if you are ever tempted again!!
 
So i have a 25ml sample bottle of GBL. And I have been taking ~1.5 ml per night for about 4 days now. If I were to do this for another week or 2 will I be setting myself up for WDs/addiction? Or is this considered a benign amount?
 
benign.

Convert it to GHB for a better high and fewer side effects.

Are you taking it just too sleep, or for a bit of a high in the evenings?
 
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