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The GHB/GBL Addiction & Withdrawal Thread
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That's fair enough, can anyone help me via pm? it looks to me like there are literally only 3 websites to get GBL. I'm sorry if i sound desperate, i just want to see how it effects me - im a disciplined guy. I want clarification on here because it's quite clear a number of you know a reliable source, i assume on the web, it might save me getting ripped off!
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Jaylib, read the whole of this thread before you buy some.
While you may be disciplined, you may open a can of worms you wished you hadn't. WD's from GABAergic drugs are particularly horrific and something you'd want to avoid.
While you may be disciplined, you may open a can of worms you wished you hadn't. WD's from GABAergic drugs are particularly horrific and something you'd want to avoid.
phenibut arriving tommorow 
2gs first day, then dropping rapidly, then clean, no benzos this time so i dont get hooked on them again. Cant wait to be free of this shit, i get withdrawals an hour after dosing, horrible shit.
2gs first day, then dropping rapidly, then clean, no benzos this time so i dont get hooked on them again. Cant wait to be free of this shit, i get withdrawals an hour after dosing, horrible shit.
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They are all basically the same if you are going for the 'buy gbl' google route.
You are not getting BASF GBL, just convery to GHB and hope you have self control
PLEASE read AL my posts on this thread as I only started to use GBL as I felt it was a magical cure for my need to not use alcohol.
This left me with a warm glow of happiness like it had been the secret safe answer which had elued me unecessarily for so long.
It's stolen my life now.
DON't get frustrated because you think you are missing out on some cure all magic elexir.
STAY AWAY from it. It fuckS you up!
If you want more examples I can give you details of experienced long term recreational drug users who have done pretty much everything (heroin excluded) but been climbing the walls having been lured into the false sense of security of the initial effects and supposed non addictive properties of GBL.
Whether you convert it to GHB or not I can warn you now as someone that thought it was the easy, safe option of not drinking, if you have had a problem with alcohol in the past DON'T go near GHB/GBL at all or you will wish you were still getting pissed.
I say this as someone that knew me through my alcohol problems years ago and was very scornful contacted me in pieces asking for my help and saying that they had only understood addiction having used GHB & GBL recreationally and then not been able to stop and watched their life and relationships fall apart around them as a consequence.
This was a person who did not know at that time that I was in the initial magical stages of taking this myself.
I will add however that the person who GBL and GHB brought to their knees has used EVERY other drug recreationally apart from heroin for many years and nt had a problem stopping any of them.
Like I siad previously if you have not started then please do not think you are missing out and start.
You are one of the lucky ones.
It's a fu**ing ba*tard of a drug and if you have had alcohol issues in your past then you are lighting your own death touchpaper so forget looking for online ordering.
Get something else safer from a reliable dealer if you are lucky enugh to know one. Unfortunately I don't but I would pay all the money I have spent on online ordering for GBL and the costs financially and emotionally and physically that ikt has had on me to use something much safer and less destructive.
After a while it's like when you drink PLEASE HEED this. The fun stops. It does not have the same effect.
This may be different for other users and their experiences, but if you have misused alcohol in the past then I would say you are pretty likely t experience sdimilar effects to me as some non alcohol users have said the same, but having drunk a lot of alcohol we have already messed up our central nervous system.
I'm trying to taper with a heap of shit medication I would never use in tie for a serious appt I can'n cancel in time for Weds. I am still thinking inside 'why go thru it you have enough to just keep dosing to stay ok and no one will know'. I also do not wat to do thru the withdrawals.
I have a REALLY serious infection in my eye which looking up online I am afraid could affect my sight as it should be dealt with immediately. However I have become so confused as to how to self medicate to hide my symptoms to the Dr that even though I had decided to try and stop the alcohol that I introduced to attempt to stop the w/d symptoms (major mistake) I thought I could keep dosing with GBL as well as drinking and tapering and using valium and or clonodone and/or propanolol and or nightime Kalms (homeopathic) and massive strengthe vitamin B and all the others GBL and alcohol strip from your body, I even have shed loads of valium to assist me-I have got to the point where it's like a one armed bandit guess of what the f*ck I am getting physical, mental an emotional symptoms trying to get off what.
And when I have successfully got off of everything even after a couple of weeks, I still get bored at times and then forget all this sh*t I have been experiecing for the past 2 yrs and have a mental block just like drinking and think I will have a bit of a cheeky GBL to liven up the night.
For a start it NEVER has the same effect as it did when I first fell in love with it, secondly I still then use it perpetually to try and replicate the initial effect and add in other things.
I've also really made a pratt of myself and lost mates over this who do not know I am using it but know I am not drinking so therefore I just look like I am a c*nt naturally!
PLEASE heed what I have said and don't think you are missing out. It's quite the opposite!
People are only wary because they have heard it all before jaylib -- justification for ones' need to use various drugs to treat ones' health conditions etc. Yes, some drugs do help a great deal. No, abusing them, developing addictions and fucking the rest of your life up will NOT.
If you are on the edge of suicide and experiencing depression etc, getting loads of GBL off the internet under the assumption that it is the best drug to treat your condition(s) could well end very nastily. You are 20 years old, have some humility, people are warning you about a very psychologically/physically addictive drug which has been a catalyst for many on this boards fucking themselves up, requiring a long term recovery process. Why do you think this thread is 24 pages long?
As for helping you buy GBL and 'point you in the right direction' use you brain. No one is going to blatantly help you buy G, you sound like the last sort of person who should jump into using it as a daily 'cure'. Yes you have tried a few drugs and you don't have a drink problem, and quite possibly you can use G recreationally too with no problems, but your attitude is way off, in taking that to be a certainty.
Be aware it is also an illegal drug now, and on top of getting scammed by sites if you're trying to buy it off dodgy/unresponsive ones you might also be importing a controlled substance and get customs letters of the sort asking you to prove it's not for your consumption etc. Such things do happen.
I'm not denying there might be health benefits for GHB but this is the addiction and withdrawal thread, and you are brazenly talking about your plans to play with fire, basically. What do you expect the reaction to be? Believe me, adding GBL addiction to your list of problems is something you will be able to do without....
If you are on the edge of suicide and experiencing depression etc, getting loads of GBL off the internet under the assumption that it is the best drug to treat your condition(s) could well end very nastily. You are 20 years old, have some humility, people are warning you about a very psychologically/physically addictive drug which has been a catalyst for many on this boards fucking themselves up, requiring a long term recovery process. Why do you think this thread is 24 pages long?
As for helping you buy GBL and 'point you in the right direction' use you brain. No one is going to blatantly help you buy G, you sound like the last sort of person who should jump into using it as a daily 'cure'. Yes you have tried a few drugs and you don't have a drink problem, and quite possibly you can use G recreationally too with no problems, but your attitude is way off, in taking that to be a certainty.
Be aware it is also an illegal drug now, and on top of getting scammed by sites if you're trying to buy it off dodgy/unresponsive ones you might also be importing a controlled substance and get customs letters of the sort asking you to prove it's not for your consumption etc. Such things do happen.
I'm not denying there might be health benefits for GHB but this is the addiction and withdrawal thread, and you are brazenly talking about your plans to play with fire, basically. What do you expect the reaction to be? Believe me, adding GBL addiction to your list of problems is something you will be able to do without....
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I'm sure you've read the horror stories of tapering phenibut too bnb, be careful.
Jaylib - bear in mind that you're posting in the addiction and withdrawal thread, where people have been through the absolute worst because of this drug. They only want to help prevent you going through the same agony they have.
Perhaps head over to the megathread for some less cautioned discussion, but make no mistake, GBL is definitely addictive and the withdrawals are HELL.
Jaylib - bear in mind that you're posting in the addiction and withdrawal thread, where people have been through the absolute worst because of this drug. They only want to help prevent you going through the same agony they have.
Perhaps head over to the megathread for some less cautioned discussion, but make no mistake, GBL is definitely addictive and the withdrawals are HELL.
QFT!
Obviously this thread shows the bad end of G users experience, but the vast majority of people I know who have dabbled have ended up with a problem and the WDs can be horrific, plus it's really hard to get medical help for a G addiction so you have to fight it alone most of the time. Some managed to stop, some have had repeated ugly battles. It's not fun.
And this thread is here to help people like that, and reduce harm...
Good luck
counting down to my next pheni dose, it was kicking in quite strongly to start (1800mg) but as the withdrawals have got more intense its not masking all of them, had to take beta blocker for heart rate and some mild physical anxiety, and sweating a bit. Not as bad as normal withdrawal, but certainly still not pleasent.
ergh just walked to the shop looking like a strungout retard, almost having a panic attack whislt paying lol. The phenibut obviously is helping, otherwise i would be in a much worse state but my brain feels like its taking a right beating, feel so disoriented can barely string a sentance together.
Anyone know if a few shots of vodka (literally just a few or 3-4 units) worth is ok to have on phenibut and propopanol? need to get my head straight before forcing some food down me.
Whats even more stressful is my mum at work ive had to look after our new kitten literally all day, i cant take it
Anyone know if a few shots of vodka (literally just a few or 3-4 units) worth is ok to have on phenibut and propopanol? need to get my head straight before forcing some food down me.
Whats even more stressful is my mum at work ive had to look after our new kitten literally all day, i cant take it
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Alcohol is fine with propanalol, but if your having GABA withdrawals, just stear clear imo.
Hangover on GBL withdrawals ARE hell
Hangover on GBL withdrawals ARE hell
To the guy person saying they were suicidal and gbl may help, I wasn't suicidal until i used GBL.
I agree with flippingtop on the leave out alcohol if you can.
BignBrown I am having the same problem as you with a pet situation, I xcan't move and take care of myself at tthe moment so even the simplest things seem mega complex and overwhelming and ead to panic. I;ve done a few days now bt still at the moment I can't think, I had community mental ghealth nurse visit today, it was panic for three days previous as I don't want to see anybody, and I have only seen her once or twice before for something seperste, she was impatient as when she arrived in her very jokky hockeysticks let's presss on manner all I did was cry and say I needed a break. I have been dealing withother stuff and asking for help for monthds and it's taken 10 months and several significant trauma's and I still have no support worker, she's just dropped in a couple of times, this is when my gbl use escalated/ She could have been talking chinese for all I knew.
Good luck BnB and Effie nice to see you as always very lovely and supportive. Hang in there everyone x
Also anyone heard from SnrG lately I have not posted enough to messsage to check in.
I also have an eye infection (developed it Sunday) it's very painful and really debilitating but the state I am in makes t impossible to leave the house and get it checked with my GP so I can barely see to read or write so excuse spelling x
I agree with flippingtop on the leave out alcohol if you can.
BignBrown I am having the same problem as you with a pet situation, I xcan't move and take care of myself at tthe moment so even the simplest things seem mega complex and overwhelming and ead to panic. I;ve done a few days now bt still at the moment I can't think, I had community mental ghealth nurse visit today, it was panic for three days previous as I don't want to see anybody, and I have only seen her once or twice before for something seperste, she was impatient as when she arrived in her very jokky hockeysticks let's presss on manner all I did was cry and say I needed a break. I have been dealing withother stuff and asking for help for monthds and it's taken 10 months and several significant trauma's and I still have no support worker, she's just dropped in a couple of times, this is when my gbl use escalated/ She could have been talking chinese for all I knew.
Good luck BnB and Effie nice to see you as always very lovely and supportive. Hang in there everyone x
Also anyone heard from SnrG lately I have not posted enough to messsage to check in.
I also have an eye infection (developed it Sunday) it's very painful and really debilitating but the state I am in makes t impossible to leave the house and get it checked with my GP so I can barely see to read or write so excuse spelling x
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as i just said in the other thread, im pretty much through this (last!) withdrawal, phenibut made it just about bearable, 54 hours in now so things can only get better, tommorow im just gonna exercise like hell and eat loads of healthy food, then saturday celebrate with some meph
cheers to all those who gave advice!
cheers to all those who gave advice!
^^^
Great News BnB good to her you are on the mend, I'm down to 35mgs of Diaz and about 10-12 units of alcohol and have more doctors and counseling appointments booked in over the next few weeks than you could shake a stick at.
Ahhhhh Meph, used to love the stuff despite it almost always making me chuck up for about 12 hours after i stopped taking it. in fact I used to take MDPV afterwards and stay up another couple of days. Stopped me throwing up but brought much bigger problems. Looking back doing 5gs + in one night proably didnt help:D
I avoid even having the connections these days for illegals
Great News BnB good to her you are on the mend, I'm down to 35mgs of Diaz and about 10-12 units of alcohol and have more doctors and counseling appointments booked in over the next few weeks than you could shake a stick at.
Ahhhhh Meph, used to love the stuff despite it almost always making me chuck up for about 12 hours after i stopped taking it. in fact I used to take MDPV afterwards and stay up another couple of days. Stopped me throwing up but brought much bigger problems. Looking back doing 5gs + in one night proably didnt help:D
I avoid even having the connections these days for illegals
update
doing an experiment to see which is ,essing me up tne most. I sed gbl a it meant o alcphol needed with all the same effecte initially.
Then I read doubling up getting offf gbl may be assisted with alcohol.
Mworks for some maybe but not me.
I've stopped everything and am doing a cold case of what messes me up. No repercussions on alcohol so far.
We'll see how it goes.
A part of my brain says that it cannot be just gbl extremely diluted.
Second thouhts now after using left over alcohol. No side reactions as adverse so far as opposed to the minimal intermittent dosage of gbl.
To be honest I am a bit shocked.
Anyway has anyone heard from SnrG to seee how it's going.?
Please let me know.
I can't type properly as have eye infection transferresd oveer to other eye so vry hard to check spelling.
I am scarwd to do a comparison against alcohol and gbl as so far I feel I already know the answers and can't face another gb wd.
doing an experiment to see which is ,essing me up tne most. I sed gbl a it meant o alcphol needed with all the same effecte initially.
Then I read doubling up getting offf gbl may be assisted with alcohol.
Mworks for some maybe but not me.
I've stopped everything and am doing a cold case of what messes me up. No repercussions on alcohol so far.
We'll see how it goes.
A part of my brain says that it cannot be just gbl extremely diluted.
Second thouhts now after using left over alcohol. No side reactions as adverse so far as opposed to the minimal intermittent dosage of gbl.
To be honest I am a bit shocked.
Anyway has anyone heard from SnrG to seee how it's going.?
Please let me know.
I can't type properly as have eye infection transferresd oveer to other eye so vry hard to check spelling.
I am scarwd to do a comparison against alcohol and gbl as so far I feel I already know the answers and can't face another gb wd.
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