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Bupe *New Suboxone film * official thread*

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Ok so I really have looked around for like 15 minutes and have not been able to find an answer to my question and time is a factor, so here's my few quick questions:

- What recreational value does suboxone have? I have experience with opiates/opiods and the like, but none with suboxone, so I have no idea what effect it really gives you.

- What is the best route of administration? I am about 95% against the IV route, because I ended up getting a horrible infection from an improperly sterilized needle a year and a half back that had some serious consequences for months and ended up putting me in the hospital. But if it's really a million times better than snorting or swallowing.... once a drug addict, always a drug addict. I think I'd prefer to go intranasally though if that route works well. (I'm assuming it's water soluble?)

- What is an appropriate dose for someone who has some opiate experience, but has, as far as I remember, no experience with suboxone. (Also, would it go well with a couple mgs of xanax?)

Your prompt reply is greatly appreciated!
 
Personally I think suboxone is definitely not recreational. The first time I ever used it I sniffed a whole 8mg pill and I was sick for 3 days. Some people do like the effect it gives them though. What kind of tolerance do you have? Which opiates do you use and how often do you use them? Without knowing that it's kind of hard to say how much, but I would definitely start out small, maybe 2mg and if you aren't where you wanna be do a little more. I IV heroin and tried to IV one of my suboxone strips the other day and I just felt sick. I wouldn't really recommend IVing it if you haven't even taken them before.

And about the xanax, I have never taken it with suboxone so I can't really say.
 
Neeoon23 said:
Personally I think suboxone is definitely not recreational. The first time I ever used it I sniffed a whole 8mg pill and I was sick for 3 days. Some people do like the effect it gives them though. What kind of tolerance do you have? Which opiates do you use and how often do you use them? Without knowing that it's kind of hard to say how much, but I would definitely start out small, maybe 2mg and if you aren't where you wanna be do a little more. I IV heroin and tried to IV one of my suboxone strips the other day and I just felt sick. I wouldn't really recommend IVing it if you haven't even taken them before.

And about the xanax, I have never taken it with suboxone so I can't really say.
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You really, really should not IV Suboxone film strips without a micron filter. I am sure this is why you got sick from doing so (barring the possibility of precipitated withdrawal).
 
ravaged_eden said:
- What is an appropriate dose for someone who has some opiate experience, but has, as far as I remember, no experience with suboxone. (Also, would it go well with a couple mgs of xanax?)

Your prompt reply is greatly appreciated!
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It can be dangerious with xanax, if your looking for a high look some place else. Your better of with other opiates.
 
there have been some recorded overdose deaths from buprenorphine - in all cases I believe the buprenorphine (in whatever form) was injected and the person also had benzos on board.

That said - overdose risk is even higher if you combine benzos with some other injected opioid like morphine, heroin, oxycodone etc
 
ravaged_eden said:
Ok so I really have looked around for like 15 minutes and have not been able to find an answer to my question and time is a factor, so here's my few quick questions:

- What recreational value does suboxone have? I have experience with opiates/opiods and the like, but none with suboxone, so I have no idea what effect it really gives you.

- What is the best route of administration? I am about 95% against the IV route, because I ended up getting a horrible infection from an improperly sterilized needle a year and a half back that had some serious consequences for months and ended up putting me in the hospital. But if it's really a million times better than snorting or swallowing.... once a drug addict, always a drug addict. I think I'd prefer to go intranasally though if that route works well. (I'm assuming it's water soluble?)

- What is an appropriate dose for someone who has some opiate experience, but has, as far as I remember, no experience with suboxone. (Also, would it go well with a couple mgs of xanax?)

Your prompt reply is greatly appreciated!
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I would go up the poop shoot route. I know it sounds gross as hell, but compared to your mouth, your intestines will do a much better job absorbing everything. Just fair warning.. You will metabolize your suboxone much faster going this route. And if you've never done sub, if you do more than 1mg i'd be willing to bet your going to be sick.

I've done Subutex and Sub for almost 2 years and when I want to feel a different perspective I prepare - 4mg (less is more with sub) I would never do more than 4mg (your basically wasting it after 4mg.. in me opinion).. Then I crush up the purest acetaminophen i can find - 500mg, 1mg of lopermide and 75 mg of diphenhydramine (break the capsules) all hard ingredients go into a 1/8 cup of warm sterilized water... mix ... add another 1/8 cup of cool water... and then I add the sub film last after everything is mixed well.. go buy a plastic syringe (walgreens sells them for $2.50), lube and insert slowly (yes you can bleed to death if you rupture your intestine).

Two other words of advise if anyone is thinking of plugging. If you do decide to add benadryl make sure you counter the drug with acetaminophen, if you don't diphenhydramine without it makes one helluva laxative and you'll lose everything. I've done this with both pills and film and they both work fine plugging. This is by far the best method I've experienced and I save it for special occasions, concerts, holidays etc. Peace
 
they are very easy to portion out milligram wise by just cutting halfs in halfs on a plate or somethin i obtained a sample the other day. they have practically no taste and if they do i wouldnt label it as unpleasant. be carefull though they seem to take about 45 mins to become active

o and i believe ceiling effect is reached at 32mg

mod note: please edit your post if you have something to add right after posting instead of posting again.
 
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Pegasus said:
^Neither generic nor name brand will prevent you from abusing the medicine. You have to keep yourself from abusing it.

If you're talking about switching to Suboxone so that you can get strips, they work more efficiently so there would be less desire to snort in the first place. ...However, if you still had the desire to snort the film, I can't imagine it would be too difficult to make a nasal spray out of this film for intra-nasal use. This is what brings me to my original point, that the medication will be used in a manner other than prescribed if you allow it to happen. The only delivery method that I can think of for buprenorphine that would not be very easily abusable would be the transdermal patches, but I'm pretty sure those are not given out for bupe maintenance very commonly (if at all)... I imagine that these also could be abused fairly easily with a little bit of ingenuity / research...

Good luck maintaining your plan though, whichever route you take.

Edit- About the alcohol, what are you thinking is causing the change? You are picking up your old habit now; is it possible that after this long period taking bupe daily, your body is pretty much used to it, and therefore your craving for intoxication came back?
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I'd say that no matter what they do to keep ppl from snorting shooting and abusing suboxone or anything for that matter......someone will always find a way around it! If they did make patches those would be just as easy to abuse also! I know ppl that buy fentnol and morphine patches and chew them up or suck on them to get a more intense buzz! Also they somehow shoot them too. So I think it would be the exact same with the saboxone too!
 
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I'd say that no matter what they do to keep ppl from snorting shooting and abusing suboxone or anything for that matter......someone will always find a way around it! If they did make patches those would be just as easy to abuse also! I know ppl that buy fentnol and morphine patches and chew them up or suck on them to get a more intense buzz! Also they somehow shoot them too. So I think it would be the exact same with the saboxone too!
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They do make a buprenorphine patch called Butrans. There's also another name for it in other countries.
 
I hope you can help me- I'm very new to bluelight and still trying to figure the system out. A few months ago, I was taking 8mg sublingual suboxone 2x a day. I am now off of it, however the last 2 days 2 days ago I took 1 8mg strip to get buzzed, and yesterday took 2 8mg strips to get buzzed, and I did. It has been a bit over 24 hours, and I have an rx of norco waiting for me at the pharmacy. So-at about 30 hours, will I feel a few norco? (7.5mg hydrocodone with a small amt of apap, 325 I think) should I wait longer to take the norco, or can I take it & hopefully get all warm & fuzzy? Remember, I have not been taking the subox regularly for quite some time. Any advice is appreciated, I know all the experts are here, and your advice is appreciated and valued!
 
sorry for not reading the entire 24 to look for the answer that might not even be there lol

i was just wondering do you guys actually get high from this stuff ?

I am a methadone user and i do sometimes get high if i mess around with my doses but im curious about subs, do you get high at all ? and if so is it like a methadone high or better ?
 
personally I don't think so. people tend to have a "honeymoon" phase with it for the first couple weeks or so, but after that, it tends to just keep you normal. that's why I like suboxone because it gives me a taste of what real life without opiates is going to be like rather than methadone, which has done nothing but just keep me from doing heroin daily.
 
kanyeknievel said:
Well I've read that it is much better to spread it around not just under your tongue but other spots around the mouth for better absorption. Since if u keep it in one spot under your tongue you are losing a lot but keeping it only there and not a lot is being absorbed in that one spot, as apposed to around your mouth. No?
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That is my opinion too. I always wait till some of the Subs have melted to this "paste" under my tongue and when I have some paste I "paint" the walls of my mouth with it. Works good!

Edit: Sorry didn't realize this was the "Film strip" thread. But the same logic should be applied to these aswell.
 
comatoserct said:
personally I don't think so. people tend to have a "honeymoon" phase with it for the first couple weeks or so, but after that, it tends to just keep you normal. that's why I like suboxone because it gives me a taste of what real life without opiates is going to be like rather than methadone, which has done nothing but just keep me from doing heroin daily.
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So its kind of like when you first get on a methadone script you get that speedy kind of effect for a week or so and feel like talking to everyone lol
 
Hello all..My wife and i are about 2 weeks away from starting suboxone..we got 1 of our scripts filled for it already and are getting the new strips. We have been on oxycodone and xanax for 6 years...
anyway my question is., there seems to be warnings on combining xanax with suboxone? are these warnings only pertinant if you are an iv user as we plan to use the sub as prescribed and have never been fond of the needle...so is it safe to continue taking xanax..(2mg per day xanax insufflated) with sub film sublingual ???
thanks for your replies..

by the way i used TFSE 1rst and did not see an answer to my question
 
olskoolrollrz said:
Hello all..My wife and i are about 2 weeks away from starting suboxone..we got 1 of our scripts filled for it already and are getting the new strips. We have been on oxycodone and xanax for 6 years...
anyway my question is., there seems to be warnings on combining xanax with suboxone? are these warnings only pertinant if you are an iv user as we plan to use the sub as prescribed and have never been fond of the needle...so is it safe to continue taking xanax..(2mg per day xanax insufflated) with sub film sublingual ???
thanks for your replies..

by the way i used TFSE 1rst and did not see an answer to my question
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It should not be a problem if you don't overdo the xanax.
The ones who end up dying from Bupe are those who doesn't really have a opiate tolerance and benzo tolerance and the think they can take large amounts of benzos with Subs.

But if you are somewhat experienced with Benzos and opioids it shouldn't be a problem.
 
snorting

i goin crazy im on a taper i jus cut the film into tiny strips and sn00ted em up the sniffer any one else do this
 
i'm fairly new to suboxone... been on it for a week. have a bunch of the strips. can see no real recreational value except that it does relieve my chronic pain, making me more mobile and thus able to enjoy my sober life.

life - pain = joy

i don't need to be high to be honest. i'm not in pain right now and that's the awesomest feeling ever :)
 
halfoz said:
i'm fairly new to suboxone... been on it for a week. have a bunch of the strips. can see no real recreational value except that it does relieve my chronic pain, making me more mobile and thus able to enjoy my sober life.

life - pain = joy

i don't need to be high to be honest. i'm not in pain right now and that's the awesomest feeling ever :)
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That's what the first few months of this year was like for me :|
 
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