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Bupe *New Suboxone film * official thread*

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Well I've read that it is much better to spread it around not just under your tongue but other spots around the mouth for better absorption. Since if u keep it in one spot under your tongue you are losing a lot but keeping it only there and not a lot is being absorbed in that one spot, as apposed to around your mouth. No?
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Honestly i spread it between my gums and under tongue... Cause it does cause significant irritation over time if you use the same spot.....
 
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ANOTHER bad reaction to Suboxone, to the tabs this time. Help solve the mystery?

Having bad reaction to tablets now.

I wrote a while back about a bad reaction to the strips and now I'm having the same reaction to the tablets. It was fine for a few weeks, but then I had a reaction where my heart was racing, my skin was flushed, I had a metallic taste in my mouth that came in waves. It was like a really bad panic attack but worse. I know that panicking made it worse, but I'm not sure what the initial reaction was from.

I started filtering after that and it was fine for a few weeks, but then I had the reaction again. It's been a few days, and I've been very carefully taking tiny doses (injecting) every five to seven hours. But it's not enough medication, so I've been taking a little bit orally too.

I know it wouldn't solve the issue of the initial reaction, but is it possible that I'm putting myself into withdrawal or something because I'm taking it intravenously and sublingually within the same day? I've been basically feeling like crap for the past few days. When I inject it, I have a very minor reaction similar to the major reaction, but I've noticed that concentrating on not panicking helps. But I'm also having a minor bad reaction when I take it orally. I've been having some minor kidney pain a couple times a day, but I get kidney stones regularly so that might be unrelated.

I'm not set on injecting, but it takes less Suboxone to do the job when I do it that way, and I only have a few left so I'm trying to use as little as possible.

So my questions are... am I making myself have symptoms b/c I'm using it too different ways at once? Also, does anyone know if maybe they changed the formula? Maybe I could be reacting to some of the new fillers/binders? I am filtering, but I'm just using tightly-packed cotton pads. I don't know what micron filters are or where to get them.

To answer the person who asked if people get high off of it. I'm not judging (of course) but that's not the purpose. To my knowledge, one of the purposes is to NOT let you get high off it. If you haven't taken any Suboxone in a few days and you shoot it, yeah you'll feel something, kind of like taking Vicodin. But when I did that, I threw up a few times too. And if you're already taking Suboxone orally and then you switch to shooting, I don't think you'll feel anything different. I never expect to get high off it. I just shoot it b/c I've been addicted to the ritual, and I can use less that way.
 
http://wsam.org/files/bup pain.pdf

interesting, it says the sub-lingual range absorption was from 15%-95%
the doses were from 2-20mg for chronic pain.

i burnt the hell out of my shoulders on sunday skating around the marina in the sun. apparently the euphoria may stop around 0.5-2mg but the analgesic effect tends to go far beyond, some have said. so i give it a shot for the awful pain around my blistered shoulders.

someone else mentioned some tissue alterations and/or damage to their tongue, which i have noticed as well. small patch of tough yet tiny bumps, where it seems to be constricted a bit from blood flow. is there anyone else out there with these changes?

what are peoples feelings about chronic pain management with this? does it work in the 8-16mg range for pain or do you think this is a waste...? perhaps in the same fashion maintenance users find it unnecessary to go into larger doses as well?

thanks
 
Sorry... I'm just trying to subscribe to the forum & can't seem to do it unless i post. So i'm posting. Newbie issue.

Anyway, has anyone had issues w/ simultaneous sublingual & intravenous dosing? Does this cause withdrawal? I'm asking again b/c i can't find info anywhere & i'm feeling like crap. Keep switching back & forth to try to solve the issue & wonder if i'm making it worse. Taking extremely small intravenous doses & then oral when i can feel the withdrawal symptoms starting? Any experiences w/ this anyone?
 
Been on the suboxone films(8mg) for several months now. At first I didn't like them, but it was mainly due to the slight irritation that I got under my tongue from where I was placing it. Since then I have changed my routine, and I would NEVER go back to the tablets. When I was on the tablets, I usually had to keep it under my tongue for at least 30 minutes. With the strips, I am done in no longer than 15 minutes and it's a little bit more discreet.

I usually place it right on the bottom of my tongue, near the base. Straight up and down. Then I lower my tongue and close my mouth and within 1 or 2 minutes it's dissolved and it feels like nothings there. After 10-15 minutes, I spit out the remaining saliva and within 20-30m I start feeling the relief/effects. I think the absorption is much better with the strips. When I first switched, I definitely felt a difference in strength that I can only relate to better absorption. I've been on suboxone maintenance for a year now, and to this day -- I can still feel the effects of suboxone(a very mild buzz, related to a lift in mood) 30 minutes after dosing that usually lasts for an hour or two.

I used to swallow the remaining saliva, but I started to feel kinda off and would get headaches. I then switched to spitting it out, and the "off" feeling and headaches went away and I noticed no change in effect between swallowing the saliva and spitting it out.

Long story short: Love the strips and recommend them to anyone using suboxone who has yet to switch over.
 
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Also, I'm wondering if anyone can answer me a question I've been curious about ever since I switched over to the films. Has anyone tried to inject these? Like to let them soak in water till they dissolve and then filtering the solution through a micron filter? Does it work? I know people say you shouldn't be injecting naloxone but I've also heard from numerous people that it's inactive even if injected and the warning is only put there to try and deter people from injecting their meds.

I have injected 4mg of suboxone before, but it was in tablet form. I have not tried with the films, and most likely will not even if it's possible. I am doing just fine taking them sublingually as directed, and have been for the past year. I have only deterred from the normal ROA once, and like I mentioned, it was IV'd. I don't remember if I got a rush or not when I injected sub. It's been a long time. Mainly I just ask out of curiosity. Thanks to anyone who can answer my question.
 
It is possible. I even saw a video on it. But when i did it i had a horrible reaction. I was using 2mg of a strip & injecting it with 1 cc of water. When i got about 1/10 of it injected, i started to feel weird so i took out the needle & just stopped moving. I thought i was starting to feel high like when i used to inject opiates. But quickly i realized something was wrong. My face and chest turned a bright red worse than sunburn & my heart raced really fast, about 120 bpm. I went outside into the cold air & that seemed to help. It only lasted a few min but i will never shoot a strip again. Of course, i've heard of other ppl doing it all the time.
 
I just prescribed 8 suboxone, I know they are for coming off of opiates, but I am not coming off anytime soon...............what happens if you take them while still on opiates??
 
ive been on suboxone for about 5 years now and i switched to the strips in november 2010, i like them alot better than the pills, the pills took forever to dissolve under my tongue. the strips are quicker and taste less as bad, just gotta open the lil packet with your teeth, i come to find suboxone wrappers all over the place haha
 
No do not take the sub while still on opiates. Verybad idea. U will go into very intense withdrawal. U r lucky to have the tablets & should save them for when u r detoxing. U will be so very grateful u have them then. And no matter what anyone says, u can ween urself off w/ 8 pills. I did it one time & was fine.
 
I was just put on two 8mg/2 sublingual suboxone strips a day.. I was destroying all my veins banging subutex and suboxone so Im kinda glad Im on the strips now. Also when you take 4-8 mgs sublingual it dissolves so fast and hits you so hard. It is probably the best method of all the different forms of bupe.. God bless the strips (sublingually), the first few days I took them, I made a cocktail with bacolofen, vistaril, neurontin, and temazepam.. I was nodding like crazy and felt amazing.......... I loved it. So dont take the advice of the biased people, ;the strips are the bees knees. Enjoy :)
- sp0r
 
IVing Suboxone Films = No Problem

I have found NO problems IVing the new films. The only difference i see is you may have to use slightly more water as the gel that makes up the strip thickens the dissolved liquid a little. I can't explain it either but when I did shoot the strips they tended to hit me MUCH harder than the tablets. Maybe its because of how small the strips are I can easily hit a larger dose at once. But all of my worries about shooting these new strips were quashed with my first attempt. Plus the ease at measuring my dose is a definite plus. I neatly cut myself 8 1mg squares (they look like hits of acid :P) which is great because I could NEVER get 8 doses with the tablets, so I see myself being able to stretch my supply even further. One word of advice is do NOT use cold water as the strips tend to not want to dissolve and end up sticking to your spoon or whatever else you use...the closer to body temp the better I'd imagine. Finally, I just want to reiterate that that these strips were NOT meant to be injected so please use common sense, filter as much as you can just be careful. just had to make sure my conscience was clear. those are my two cents
 
You feel it more because there are less inactive ingredients. The tablets have more inactive ingredients, which trap more of the active ingredient buprenorphine.

You should ideally micron filter the strips though, because otherwise the inactive ingredients can be harmful.

Please check out the last link in my signature to learn more about micron filtering. :)
 
I just iv'd 2mg of the 8mg strip less than 24hrs after taking opiates. After about 5 minutes I feel fine. No precipitated withdrawls. I filtered the hell out of it. Injected half, waited a few minutes and did the rest. No problems here so far...
 
for sublingual users...

do you feel that strips and tabs are weight equivalent in their effect?
ie 0.5mg orange tab = 0.5mg film strip (1/16th)

i recall having much better trials with small bits and pieces of the tabs under the tongue than the strips
 
so is it safe to iv the films if the mixture is still milky/cloudy looking? I have regular cotton/ q-tips to filter these?
 
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