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The GHB/GBL Addiction & Withdrawal Thread

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Please let me know if this is dangerous or anything (harm reduction and all that) but when I was coming off G I found MXE to be really good (and legal!). Especially with a beer and a joint at night to sleep :)
 
Part Time Junkie said:
Please let me know if this is dangerous or anything (harm reduction and all that) but when I was coming off G I found MXE to be really good (and legal!). Especially with a beer and a joint at night to sleep :)
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Sorry if I' being dense :? but what is MXE?
 
Ruffchuck said:
Sorry if I' being dense :? but what is MXE?
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Haha no worries it's Methoxetamine. Kind of like extended release ketamine mixed with weak painkillers.

I would much rather have opiates and benzos but due to the fact it is easy to get hold of and it's legal I thought I would throw it out there :)

Prob best to keep doses low though.
 
Ruffchuck: I fully understand now. If I'm honest, I've taken speed, MDMA and even piperazines during G withdrawals before, simply to cheer myself up. They certainly help with the crippling depression that it can bring. Lucky you getting a Ritalin script for adult ADHD. Unless you're in the US?
 
To be honest that wasnt that bad, did a 48 hour taper from Wednesday evening to Friday Lunch time then one sleepless night and im fine now on Saturday. :\

Looking foward to natural sleep for the first time in 3 weeks tonight. :D

I think tapering really does make a massive difference with geeb//
 
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Clonodine has therefore definitely impacted on me for the better my man so fingers crossed you can get to give it a go


I'm seeing the psyhchiatrist on Wednesday, so will try and get it then. I also want off effexor and mirtazapine and on to zyban or burproprion. Given to smokers, and I'm doing 40 a day, but also good for dep.

Effex has bastardly withdrawals, and if you cold turkey it, gives even worse depression than a g w/d, and mirt helps you sleep, but downside, you want to eat round the clock.

Thanks for the info

SnrG
 
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FlippingTop said:
If you read through all the mega threads you will see this, and the fact you should convert to GHB many times!
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I have read through them, hence the taper. ;)




I do prefer my GBL as GBL though - much better hit, as long as you deal with the shitty acidosis that GBL brings then its no worse than GHB in my experience.
 
unlucky yoyo, you not have anything to help? even something small like chamoille tea makes loads of difference.

Beta blockers help loads too, and benzos if you know where to get em.

These are pretty much the main ways of getting through it, luckily gbl wd is over pretty quick.
 
If you're really in need you should be able to get a GP's appointment on the same day. Might have to argue but in an emergency you should be able to, and they can prescribe beta blockers. They almost definitely won't have a clue about GBL withdrawal, but will understand anxiety and the physical symptoms of that...

Hope you feel better soon, chamomile tea is very soothing, definitely worth a shot :)
 
I would have said that chamomile tea would make not one bit of difference. It may have the slightest effect on the brain, but surely not during a GABA withdrawal? Then again, 10ml a day isn't too much, really. If you're sleeping, then you're fine. :)
 
Treacle said:
I would have said that chamomile tea would make not one bit of difference. It may have the slightest effect on the brain, but surely not during a GABA withdrawal? Then again, 10ml a day isn't too much, really. If you're sleeping, then you're fine. :)[/

sure its not valium or anything, but for people that have a bit of trouble findind it, it can really chill you out, worth a shot no?
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Oh, of course it's worth a shot. I tried it for anxiety a few times, and didn't notice anything, though. So, I just can't imagine it touching a raging GBL withdrawal. :)
 
All people react differently to Gbl, as with other drugs. Camomile and beta b's did nothing for me. But there is a big difference between 24/7 using over several months, compared to lesser dosing, over shorter period

I also tried tapering, but found it was just too agonisingly slow, to be of benefit.
 
bignbrown said:
my advice for gbl wd, just tough it out for 3 days, its horrific but its over quick. If you cant get hold of things like benzos or phenibut just get some valerian, drink cham tea and stay in bed for 2-3 days, then its over.
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In my experience, the worst w/d effects started 72 hours after cold turkey
 
Really? I found they stopped about then. They started almost immediately. That's really strange. Was this 24/7 use?
 
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